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#290027
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Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/290027/action/topic#290027
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Ok, I now whole heartedly agree.
My source is NOT the ABC extended broadcast (this is from one of the other non-extended HD versions floating on the net) but there is no way that this HD version was made from Super35: No one transferring the film could be so stupid and crop this much unless they had to.

Widescreen DVD:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2617/hp3wszg8.jpg

HD (resized to match DVD):
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2891/hp3hdbql5.jpg

View the full sized 720p version here if you don't believe me:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7304/hp3hdck5.jpg

I'm now terrified about what a future BluRay/HDDVD release might look like since they love to go full 16x9 rather than preserving the OAR.
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#289973
Topic
Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289973/action/topic#289973
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First I disagree, Imdb lists Azkaban being Super35 as well: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0304141/technical

So yes, the original frame was probably closer to 4x3, but the 16x9 version is a bit better (than the full screen version).
Here is Chamber of Secrets for an examle:

Full and Wide Screens (overlayed)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/905/03240coe6.jpg
HD
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4257/howlerux0.jpg


As you can see on the whole only a bit of information is lost from the left and right.
Sure this probably isn't what the Director intended, but the composition doesn't seem to get as far off as a full frame version.

Post
#289894
Topic
Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289894/action/topic#289894
Time
I'm currently working on 2 versions of HP2 from the HD raw captures.
I will hopefully have a standard single layer DVD and an enthusiest DVD-ROM with 720p x264/ac3 content.

I will be doing a little clean up and restoration (restoring 24 frames, generating english subs, replacing mediocre audio, etc.).
Full details are on another editing site but I'm just getting started.

What IS important is this: http://www.darkmark.com/c.c?l=n/archives/2007/06/harry_potter_ma_2.txt
A supposed marathon of the first 3 movies, extended, in HD and on ABC.

I cannot cap these myself.
Does anyone have the know-how, an HD cap card, a good strong HD signal for ABC and a LOT of HDD to spare?
I would gladly upgrade my project to do all 3 films if I had a source for the raws.
Post
#289238
Topic
Terminator 3 T-HOPE Edition (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289238/action/topic#289238
Time
Movie films run at 24 frames per second. PAL is 25 frames a second. There are multiple ways to achieve 25 from 24.

The most common is to run the film faster resulting in a shorter movie runtime (by about 4%). What also happens is the pitch starts to go up (like fast forwarding an audio tape while listening).
In some cases they will use digital processing to correct this, but I find that to be more the exception than the norm.

Your method of using pulldown is just find for achieving synchronized audio and video, but it also has no effect on the actually run time/play speed/audio pitch.

If T3's PAL DVD release did not correct for the higher pitched audio, using pulldown flags will not correct it.
In none of these cases will the actually audio synchronization be effect.

I hope this makes more sense than my last post.
Post
#289068
Topic
Terminator 3 T-HOPE Edition (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289068/action/topic#289068
Time
I think you misunderstand, sure the way you converted allows the audio to sync.
What I was stating was that typically in order to get a 24fps movie to reach 25fps speed, they run the film faster which causes the audio to change pitch.
It makes people sound like they are sucking helium.

Using 25->29.97 pulldown preserves that speed change. It's really only a useful method when the original source was PAL video and not film.
The correct way is to re-encode at 23.976/720x480 and then run the audio through a re-encoder (BeSweet has a simple template for this) set to 25->23.976. This corrects the pitch change.

Of course I could be talking out of my butt. Can anyone confirm that the PAL T3 has audio speedup?
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#288650
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288650/action/topic#288650
Time
Before I give up altogether on this project, let me ask:
Is a mostly good copy of this better than what we have already?

The best quality I've gotten to date is with restore24. The video would look like the previously posted clip but less sharp (and less noisy).
During some motion you might notice a small skip, but truthfully I've seen worse releases.

It's below my usual standard (which is why I would prefer to give up), but I'm also considering what versions exist of this movie, and this could be the best it looks for a long time.

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Post
#288453
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288453/action/topic#288453
Time
As suspected this method was worse.
Now you have an extra frame every second. On movement it becomes noticeable.

Well out of all the tests, the original Restore24 version was the closest to not sucking so much... but even then if you are sensitive, motion may seem unnatural.

At the moment I'm considering giving up on this (which I don't want to after spending so much time with hit.)

The previously posted (sharpened) clip used restore24, but because there's not a lot of movement you can't see the problem.
If you step through it you might.

Arrrgggghhh!

I guess there's always the header trick, but that doesn't work on all stand alones.
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#288353
Topic
The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288353/action/topic#288353
Time
OCP's Classic Edition had one serious flaw that I found made it unwatchable:
When DVD and laserdisc material were merged in the same frame, the older material had a jitter and slight color differences that made them stand out.
It looked like a really bad special effects shot and it pulled me out of the movie.

How did you deal with this... or didn't you?
Post
#288336
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288336/action/topic#288336
Time
Ok, I want some opinions.

As it stands the problem is either Restore24 is flaky, isn't that smart, or I'm not in using it OR SotS has to many problems.
Either way, what happens is in places there are too many consecutive blended frames and when they're tossed out the movement becomes jerky (like a frame is missing... which it is).

At these points there's nothing to restore, to keep things smooth a blended frame has to be kept.

The newer plan involves my original thought of tossing out all the odd fields (which are about 100% blended) and keep all the even fields (which are 80-90% good).
The result is a half resolution 25 frame/sec video that's neither fish nor fowl.

With a 25 to 29.97 pulldown it'll be cleaner than the original DVD, but with much lower resolution.

So the question is: Is this worth it?