Doctor M

All right.  I stand corrected.

InfoDroid just tends to have a very unique vision of what to do with IJ films.  But I suppose any idea may spawn other ideas.

Forget I said anything.

Edit: To clarify... my crazy comment is derived from my continued confusion over how many different KotCS projects are actually in the works and the differences between them since all editors are using the same thread.

Infodroid, please don't take this the wrong way (since everyone has their own tastes, and that's okay), but perhaps you should start your own thread.

The suggestions on this thread are largely for people that want to fix KotCS so it more resembles earlier Jones films.

Your previous ToD and LC edits have shown that you dislike the franchise in general.  It's sort of incompatible with the spirit of this thread.  I would be unhappy to see any of the people that were here earlier taking onboard any of your suggestions.

Again, this isn't meant to be an attack, I'm sure there's people that like your Indiana Jones edits, but I am not one of them.

But then again I feel last Crusade is better than Raiders... so what do I know.

TMBTM's idea doesn't sound bad.

The skeletons start spinning, beams shoot from them into Spalko, she starts receiving images and then she melts, explodes, or bleeds from her orifices.

I'm thinking, instead of newsreel footage, how about lots of random disturbing images of death, decay, disease, distruction, etc.  They could be overlayed (transparent) Spalko standing there, or quick, rapid, epileptic siezure inducing intercuts.

While I agree that they should have gone for an artifact or something more embedded into the collective unconscious (a REAL City of Gold, the original Cross, the Fate of Atlantis, the Infernal Machine, proof aliens built the pyrmaids, the last lightsaber (it did happen a LONG time ago)...), the mythology of 13 crystal skulls was not invented for Indy.  It's just more obscure.

I figured that all the knowledge of an interdimensional race is more than a human being's brain can handle.

I think something more simple like blood coming out of her ears and nose then just collapsing or something would convey that better than a fireball.  Maybe accompanied by a wooshing cacophony of overlapping sounds like it's all being crammed in her head.

dark_jedi said:

focuspuller said:

When this gets put back up is it going to be Anamorphic?

 

FF said that is the plan,and I am sure it will be,I am helping him as much as I can.

Will it be a crop and upscale or does the source have the added resolution.

I just got to sit down and enjoy this tonight.

It looks and sounds great (better than a lot of commercial discs).

Excellent work.  Thanks for putting in the work CompMovieGuy.

Btw, for those using it, here is an updated subtitle file.  A large part of the dialog during the credits was missing before.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nzmzhlxuzea

Heh heh.  I just realized the movie is "Feds" not "F.E.D.S.", which is something else.

Oh, since the torrent doesn't exist anymore, for those that want english subtitles, here is my own version:http://www.mediafire.com/?nzmzhlxuzea

I capped the movie from an old Starz VHS recording, ripped the captions, retimed and corrected any dropouts.

They're largely paraphrasing of the dialog, but it's better than no subs if you need them.

Edit: Subtitles link updated... see post below.

Have you seen JJ's film skyjedi2005?  The trailers look amazing and JJ doesn't do much wrong.  I just worry that he's a (gasp) Star Wars fan not a Trek fan.

I'll no doubt grab this Special Longer Version, but there's no getting around the fact that the movie is deeply flawed and really has about an hour of story stretched out.

Abrams may have made a better film, you don't know (and neither do I).

DVD Rebuilder has no PAL to NTSC settings (and it really really should).  In fact AFAIK there is no single program that can do such a full conversion (though movie-only options abound).  If you are interested in rolling up your sleeves, take a look at my hefty Full PAL2NTSC guide over in the How-To/Technical section of this forum.

That's a bit off topic.

On topic is a question that I'm sure has been asked and answered but I'm just drawing a blank on... are the effects in this cut theatrical or the Director's Cut redone effects?

I personally had no problem with the new ones and wish they went that far when they remastered TOS. Though with HDTV used as a source in this, I'm guessing there are no updated effects.

jones1899 said:

I also hate how Indy rubs Mutt's head - very cheesy.

Wow, you just summed up the whole movie. ;)

They start up the spaceship-y thing, a giant fireball engulfs the screen, the end.

No stupid Spalko death, no joyfully running from stupid water trap, no sappy wedding scene and no sequels.

Edit: Speaking of which are you doing something to that cliche riddled wedding?

skyjedi2005 said:

Doctor M said:

I can't imagine Indy obsessed with ANY artifact after the events of Last Crusade.

He's seen where that leads.

 

Is not that the whole point of Indy IV that the only treasure he found on his travels of "fortune and glory" worth having and holding on to Is Marion Ravenwood.

In the end the only thing that matters he discovers is love and family, and all these treasures and hollow pursuits were just distractions. I can imagine him Hanging up the hat and whip for good unless Marion goes on his next quest with him. Its more likely he will pass them on to mutt. Mutt will wear the jacket hat fedora and whip. Indy Fans don't want a Mutt Jones trilogy but clearly IV was the Last real indy picture.

Yeah film fans wanted Indy to remain an aventurous bachelor forever and be forever youthfull like james bond, to do that Lucas and Ford need to recast the role.

I could have understood a prequel Indy film starring Sean Patrick Flannery as Indiana Jones. How old is that actor now?

Do you think Instead of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles if River Phoenix did not die it would have been a natural progression for them to make YOUNG INDY prequel films.

Perhaps NOT the last real Indy movie.  They've made some noises about a possible #5 & #6 and not the Adventures of Mutt Jones, but Harrison Ford back.

As far as Sean Patrick Flanery, you could have last seen him as Greg Stillson on the Dead Zone TV series.  He's not that Indy looking anymore.

I can't imagine Indy obsessed with ANY artifact after the events of Last Crusade.

He's seen where that leads.

I'm a bit confused, how many edits are in the works, by who and what are the differences?

I'm thinking this info should be tracked in the first post, or a separate thread used for each edit.

I'm afraid for that 'burn on demand' program.  It basically means they're going to neglect deeper catalog titles using the excuse that they're available on demand.

For a $20 DVD (which is expensive for today's market) I expect restored anamorphic video, clean 5.1 audio (whenever possible), english subtitles, and a few nice extras (at least a trailer).

Professional and proper encoding/authoring takes time... that I'm sure they won't bother with.

I think what it will turn out to be is a disc in a cardboard sleeve with just a movie, a generic 'burn on demand' menu, and video quality that looks like they capped it off the air.

No matter how great the lure of a 'lost movie', I don't think I'd buy anything under those conditions.

Looks amazing.  Time to retire that laserdisc rip to Xvid to DVD I have.

I'm floored by how many movies are not on DVD that made it to laserdisc, which was a much less successful format.

I've checked HDBits, the new groups and a bunch of other likely sites with no luck.

Anyone with an account over on Bit-HDTV.com able to check for CompMovieGuy?

Well, looks like that's come and gone.  Ah well.

Edit: While a small consolation, there is a pretty good quality VHSRip (though probably really from laserdisc) XviD floating around.

3/26/2009: Corrected and clarified my clarifications from yesterday.

Edit: And a quick edit.  Mistakenly referred to 5% being safe for subtitles.  I meant 10%.  That's fixed now too.

3/29/2009: Discovered bug in more recent versions of DVDSubEdit.  Guide now recommends only v1.41 and older until it's fixed.

3/25/2009: Expanded and changed recommended settings in the section for DVDSubEdit.  Better placement for 16x9 vs 4x3 displays explained.

@ blukibuken: I was gonna say the same thing.

DVD Rebuilder, one check box and you're sorted.

+1

Starz has an HD channel, would be great for someone to do an HD2DVD preservation project of this.

The new Saludos Amigos is pretty much the same as the previous release with upgraded audio and bundled with Three Caballeros.

Why don't the admins just lock this thread?  The project is in all likely dead.
The only people that post here are trolls and whiners.

If one of the members of the XØ Project want to reopen the thread later they could request it.

The upcoming version is just another dip, this time HD.  Don't expect anything new... or as cool as this release.