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Taolar said:

Back on subject: Taolar, although I love the name you've been using, perhaps a name change on the next version would be a good idea.

 

I'll definitely come up with something different.  That's what I get for taking so long to finish it.  Hey, what do you think about just using a Kryptonian symbol and letting people call it The Edit Previously Known as Son of Jorel?  ;)

XD

dark_jedi said:

WOW Boon is gone? wonder if I could log in now or if I am still banned LOL, I friggin HATED that site for a long time and some of the admins there, wonder if they are gone now to,hell maybe the site is better now, who knows.

+1.  Boon was a major issue.

Unfortunately I scuttled my account (don't ask), it has probably been deleted by now anyway. 

I just might have to check things out again.

Back on subject: Taolar, although I love the name you've been using, perhaps a name change on the next version would be a good idea.

And FE has a reputation for not caring about individual editor's works.  I'm surprised he bothered to say anything.  He must be new to FE.

While this is still available on FE's website, I've been considering putting a torrent up on Cinematik for those that prefer that method.

Assuming PhilFrog has no objections, is there interest in a torrent rather than RapidShare?  Seems like the right time of year for this.

Doing further research, yes, the audio track remix should work.  I'll post a clip in the next few days.

The process will involve DPL2 decoding the 2.0 participation track.  The audience, which is only in the rear channels, would then be boosted and mixed into the rear channels of the 5.1 track.  It should sound great when finished.

Also, it turns out the BluRay Vintage Callback subtitles are specifically a transcription of the 1983 Say It/Audience Participation Album.  That's interesting.

I'd still like to get my hands on those subs, but have not been able to find them.

Finally, can anyone confirm or deny my current suspicion that the DVD's audience participation track IS the 1983 CD synced to the movie?

When I watched I actually turned to the person I was watching it with and asked if Sully was laying in his avatar pod with an air mask on or something.

Besides, I think the scene kind of blows.  The meaning of it was lost on me.  It just made the N'avi seem more backward (which frankly a LOT of the Collector's Edition footage does).

I finally watched the 3 hour cut from the new Collector's Edition.  Some nice new plot lines (frankly I liked some of the delete footage stuff better (like the romance subplot and the other avatars during the epic battle)), but also this is more bloat along with it.

Any chance on a v2 using the extendeder cut?  The expanded Earth opening works very well.  The original opening is a bit jarring in its pace considering how slow the rest of the film moves.

Some of the expanded stuff on the school is okay, but the Lorax book?  Sigh.

I think I finally realized what bothers me about Avatar the most.  It's sci-fi light.  It's the far future, but people still read printed books, play golf with plain old clubs and speak just like us while spewing the same tropes (especially the military).

While this probably made it more accessible to the less scifi inclined, it also makes it seem like crap to real geeks.

Anyway, so I'm just putting it out there, a request for an expanded source revision.

Just a little FYI for those looking to snow D_J in with DVD9s.

SuperMediaStore is having a 72 hour sale.  30 pack for $36.99 and free shipping. 

Also if you spend $100 on the order you'll get another $10 off with the coupon: Holiday10

Hope that wasn't too off topic for you all.  If it's a problem, let me know and I'll remove this post.

Anyway, v1.1 has been out for awhile, but I've only had one request for it so far.

v1.1 has the same audio/video as the previous release.

What is new.

Disc 1:

The movie can be resumed if you exit to the menu (previously it would restart from the beginning again).

New English subtitles (tough dang job), selectable from the main menu.

Fan warning has been shortened

Non functional buttons have been removed from the scene selection menu.

Disc 2:

Aspect ratio of Splash Mountain ride-through extra has been corrected to 16x9.

Fan Edit warning again shortened.

Root button problem with Splash Mountain extra corrected.

Button routing within menus are now more intuitive.

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As far as a v2 is concerned, I'm letting that idea go for now.  I think this pretty much wraps up the set.  I don't think there are any more plans for a Disc 3.  ( If anyone wants to design cover art, that would be great.)

Very sad.  I always looked forward to his latest work.

Is ADM not okay or just retired?

There's a new Harry Potter in theaters and HBP never got the extended treatment.

Monroville said:

dark_jedi said:

What is that thing Monroville? does it play Blu-ray files as well?

Yup!  The only thing it does not play is Flash video (at the moment, since the people who make the Argosy are really good with firmware upgrades).

I usually just take out the TS file from the blu-ray folder and download it directly onto the hard drive (no need to have all of those blu-ray folders when all you really need is just the movie from the STREAM folder).

Off-topic, but you could probably demux flash video and remux it into mkv or mp4 containers.  Much of flash is now H.264.

Maybe George Lucas' name should be removed since he has divorced himself from the original theatrical cut...

Is anyone planning putting this on TehParadox like the last version?

Which versions of the lines are in Hairy_Hen's mix? (Sorry if that's been asked before).

I hate to ask, but is there any chance of seeing some screenshot comparisons between the standard and maximum bitrate versions?

Maximum bitrate is well and good in theory, but as the pointless SuperBit series of DVDs proved, it doesn't always mean much.

Considering this is an upscale to start with, before a lot of artifact clean up, I can't help thinking that it doesn't really need a high rate to look pristine.

In cases like this, it's sometimes fun to do an OPV test to find what quantization value you get at the final target bitrate.  (But I'm frequently crazy, have a weird idea of fun and I'm definitely not suggesting you actually do that.)

Thread renamed and first post edited.

Okay, so I'm posting at myself, but that's fine.  I wanted to give you all an update, and ask for suggestions.

In version 1, I may have used a bit to much post processing in dgdecode.  I think I could have used some deringing, but it's been a while and I'm not sure.

I used Restore24 to get back to 23.976 which uses an internal deinterlacer.

I actually spent a week creating, in pieces, a lossless v2 using yadifmod/nnedi2 with srestore.

The advantages: More modern restoration filter, less dgdecode postprocessing, possibly smoother motion, 10-20% sharper image (thanks to a serious deinterlacer), and a bit less cropping.

The disadvantages: More artifacts including a bunch of mosquito noise (even with denoising), the smoother image is because srestore chose more blurred fields than restore24 (this is most noticeable in animated scenes.)

For a pointless comparison, here are some screenshots. http://www.mediafire.com/?4tsj6g3vejglggj

They don't really mean anything because I only took snaps where the frames were the same.  In most cases different fields were selected so there were no matching screenshots possible.

What might be ideal would be finding a way to disable restore24's internal bobber and using yadifmod/nnedi2 in it's place... but I don't know how much good that would do, even if it's possible.

I think the problem is actually the noise.  If you filter more, the 24fps restoration is more accurate, if you filter less of it, your picture is sharper, but you get more blended fields.

Anyone have a suggestion?  If not I'll just go ahead and release v1.1 (which has the same video/audio as v1).

That makes a lot of sense.

They'll wait and make it themselves when the sequels get closer using the money they've made on this double dip, and the future two more 3D-BD dips (the 3D theatrical cut is already announced and then there will have to be a 3D extended).

I was just reading details about the upcoming 3-disc Avatar set: http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Three-Disc-Extended-Collectors-Worthington/dp/B0044XV3R8

Sure there’s the 16 minute extended-er cut, but there are also “over 45 minutes of deleted scenes” as a bonus feature.

Assuming the footage is actually finished, has anyone already resolved to make the craziest longest uber-Avatar cut possible?

I would expect ADM to take this up, but from what I can tell, he hasn’t been very active lately.

Darth Solo said:

I've heard the flick is going to get a Hollywood re-make, with a Tim Curry cameo......o dear.

I'm not sure if they hope to make it better, or intentionally as bad as the original.  Neither is likely to work.

I'v never gotten to hear the Say It album, I have no idea how it compares.  Not a bad idea though, it is likely to be clearer.

So this seems like the right time of year for this.

I was a bit disappointed with the DVD release of this film.  To me, watching the movie without an audience is a terrible experience.

The DVD does contain a audience participation track, but I recall it isn’t very clear, and the audio mix is stereo (prologic).

The recent BD release ditches this track entirely and replaces it with a subtitle track telling you what to yell.

I’ve been thinking about taking the audience participation track, running it through a DPL2 decoder, trying to improve the clarity of the audience, and then mix it back into the 5.1 mix (or now perhaps something better with the BD audio available).

I’m sort of leaning towards making a DVD with this track (if it’s from the BD audio, probably as a very high bitrate DD or DTS)… and maybe the audience participation subs if they match up with the audio track.  That way the quality is good for future BD use, just replace the video.

Anyway, is there interest in this?  Any opinions on what form it should take?

Good info.

SuperMediaStore actually shows the manufacturing country on their site.  They're out of stock now, but they normally carry the Singapore discs.

I'm still working through a large quantity of Memorex DVD+R DL's that I picked up (for a song) a while back.

I will be the first to say they are crap.  I burn at the lowest speed I can and still have about a 50% failure rate (or in some cases the disc won't spin up every time in the drive that burned it).

I'm going to be buying some Verbatims soon since that definitely appears the way to go.

While I don't care about them being printable, I've seen that there are DataLifePlus and standard.

Are both considered good, or is it worth the premium on the already premium price to go with the DLP discs?