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#902204
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD (AVCHD DVD9 & NTSC DVD5 available!!! SEE FIRST POST!!!)
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I haven’t watched / listened to these, and I don’t really know what you’re trying to do with the commentaries, Lapti Nek, and Jedi Rocks, though it sounds like you’re trying to replace Jedi Rocks with Lapti Nek by playing Lapti Nek loud enough to drown out Jedi Rocks.

If that’s the case, you could find a music file of the Jedi Rocks song, sync it to the Jedi Rocks that plays during the commentary audio, then flip the polarity / phase of the Jedi Rocks song that you synced to the commentary version, and that should cancel out the Jedi Rocks that plays during the commentary. Then you could add Lapti Nek at normal volume.

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#897436
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD (AVCHD DVD9 & NTSC DVD5 available!!! SEE FIRST POST!!!)
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Yeah, excellent work Harmy!

I recently watched your ANH and ESB edits, and they’re great. You should see if you can get a deal with Disney to release them as the official OT, lol. Or at least mail copies of them to Lucaas with a note on them that says “They exist!”

(in reference to George remarking that the original versions no longer exist)

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#896177
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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The walker Chewie took captured took out another AT-ST, which surely had an impact on the battle. And was a speeder bike taken out by the captured AT-ST? I don’t recall.

And maybe the force did help in those other situations, since Luke survived those times, even though he hadn’t been trained much then. Also, it isn’t known how strongly the force was working in either side then - but Vader was present, so there was a strong dark force presence. Though Obi’s spirit could have been with the rebel fighters during their attack on the DS before he speaks to Luke.

During the battle on Endor, I think all force minds, living and spirit are focused on it at that point: Luke, Leia, Obi, Yoda, Vader, the Emperor (who seems to be overconfident and more into dicking around with Luke than concentrating on the battle).

Regarding a previous comment, the people, like general Ackbar saying “May the force be with you” are not saying it as a general “God bless you” type of thing, they’re saying it because they believe it, mean it, and hope for it.

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#896006
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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Delicieuxz said:

Ewoks are great. Anyways, is there a high fidelity image of this anywhere? It’d make an amazing desktop wallpaper. I love these Endor scenic images with the bases in them. I have a printed night time one somewhere that actually was taken out of a library book by a friend when we were young teens. Apparently I suggested he do it, or at least that’s what he told me when I borrowed the book from the library many years later and was upset that someone had taken the SW pictures out of it. Then he let me have them.

Lookie what I found.

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#896000
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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Ewoks are great. Anyways, is there a high fidelity image of this anywhere? It’d make an amazing desktop wallpaper. I love these Endor scenic images with the bases in them. I have a printed night time one somewhere that actually was taken out of a library book by a friend when we were young teens. Apparently I suggested he do it, or at least that’s what he told me when I borrowed the book from the library many years later and was upset that someone had taken the SW pictures out of it. Then he let me have them.

imperialscum said:

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#895953
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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TV’s Frink said:

Delicieuxz said:

The Force can be with groups and individuals who haven’t trained before. Luke and Leia had been with the Ewoks, and their thoughts might have been a catalyst for the Force to be in their presence. Also, the Endor fight concerned the Force on both sides, so there could have been a heavy Force presence in general.

I don’t remember anything in the films supporting this theory.

I guess you must have never watched a Star Wars film before, then.

It’s seriously the basis of the force, that it is present in all things, moving and guiding everything. Leia has it, without training. And in TFA, which you seem to be a fan of, Rey is strong with the force despite no training, stronger even than Kylo. And she employs it without even knowing she can.

And it’s the basis of characters saying “May the force be with you”, even non trained characters to other non trained characters.

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#895860
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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TV’s Frink said:

Delicieuxz said:

I think that the people who critique RotJ for Ewoks just have latent teddy-bear issues or something, and that their gripes say something about only them, and not the movie.

It says that we understand there’s no way a bunch of Ewoks should be able to take down an entire Legion of the Emperor’s best troops.

… who wear full body armour that does nothing to protect the wearer, and only makes it difficult for the wearer to see, and walk.

Though maybe their visors server as excellent sunglasses, not that there is excessive sunlight under the tree canopy on Endor.

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#895846
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Lord Haseo said:

Regardless of what you feel about TFA you should try to make time to watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaliPyihCY

A formula was used, sure, but there’s still a whole movie script of difference between just using a scene-progression formula and Abrams’ approach of making TFA a total micro and macro element amalgamation of previous SW notes.

ESB’s concept is not a wannabe ANH, nor RotJ’s a wannabe ESB or ANH. TFA is halfway to being just an alternative presentation for the synopsis of SW OT, and is largely a wannabe of the moments from the OT.

But that’s not what I take issue with most, regarding TFA, which how doing this micro and macro OT element amalgamation in TFA formed irreconcilable story elements which don’t add up in meaning looking back to the OT, and which the OT doesn’t seem to lend support towards in TFA.

A person who watches the films casually, or for just a general vibe is more prone to accepting the OT and TFA as being equal, because they’re only looking at the surface appearance. Someone who senses and considers the greater meaning of what’s presented in OT will probably find TFA to be incongruous in ways.

I think that the deeper meaning which a person senses as they consider anything is what is value. So when TFA contradicts what OT added up to, I don’t think citing that represents a sentimental inability by OT diehards to accept TFA. I think that’s rather having the sensibility to remember the authentic pinnacle of SW and not letting that goodness go for the sake of riding the surface of a newer flash. TFA bought a map guide to visit as a tourist the landmarks which were earlier marked during an adventurous trailblazing that was for the sake of delivering a powerful message.

Also, these are separate trilogies, created by different minds and at different periods of time. That’s not a criticism, but it comes through in the presented stories, and they just don’t work as one constant body of SW: If the OT is fully accepted as presented, then, within the brain of the person who accepts them, some things about TFA have to be False. And if TFA is accepted as presented, then some things about the OT have to be False. So if the OT is, in full, canon, then TFA is non-canon, but it works as fanfic, or an alternative take, or however someone wants to phrase it. To me, the GOUT is SW, its first and strongest statement, and everything else has been trying to work to be a part of that, though missing its standard by various measurements.

That applies even to the SE OT, which is essentially Lucas second-guessing the original statement of SW. Second-guesses are weakness, different than what is re-considering, and the edits in the SEs present as second-guessing.

I think it’s entirely possible to make something that does fully work, even though such an accomplishment is rare to find in film-making (or other artistic endeavor), and that Abrams nailed some of the things that would be required for this feat - but that TFA is incongruous with the considerations that the OT amounts to.

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#895687
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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TavorX said:

I’ve come to terms with Ewoks ever since I read these points:

-They ARE warriors and trappers (all those log contraptions were probably originally made for bigger game that lurk in the forest)

I think that the Ewoks could have easily set log traps up specifically for battle preparation against the imperials (just make a log, hoist it up with ropes. They could probably make many such traps in a day), but that they were placed in obvious pathways, and the AT-STs were lured through those pathways.

joefavs said:

I love me some ROTJ, but I can’t get down with the idea that the lightsaber duel is better than the one in ESB. That’s the finest fight choreography in the entire saga, particularly the lead up to the “I am your father” bombshell right after the Falcon escapes.

What I like about the RotJ saber fight is how less stiff and more fluid the movements are, and how it’s less Vader toying with Luke, and more Luke holding his own. I also love the green light saber.

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#895547
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Here’s another point: TFA is openly for the fans. It didn’t come carrying its own voice or knowing part of the saga that needed to be told, it came to celebrate and re-experience what already was.

From the start, it wasn’t designed to be the focused reality of the continuation of SW, but to conjure up images from the part of the SW reality which has already completed, while putting those images within the framework of a continuing story.

There is a difference between what the story that comes from the goals of TFA is, and what a story made to be only its own self, in its own space, would be. TFA takes the slot of this next period of SW, but uses it as a fanciful flashback. It breaks stride with SW OT, and while it presents itself using many of the same tones, and is excellent in doing that, it doesn’t carry what was established in SW forward, and seems to exist out of a distinct frame of mind from the OT, while presenting facsimile images.

I think it’s described very well as being a fanfic.

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#895545
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Lord Haseo said:

Delicieuxz said:
who it seems that the movie was made for.

That’s the biggest load of squirrel feces I’ve ever heard about TFA. With all the nostalgia boners they planted into the movie for us to receive it was mostly made for the fans. Also if you haven’t seen the OT you’re going to be lost as to why some of these character’s are so damn important. I took my sister (who is 15) to see TFA a couple of weeks ago and she thought Max Von Sydow’s character was Luke. So I don’t want to hear that shit.

Tough, that’s how it is. Made for fans, yes. The ones who are millennials (which doesn’t count your 15 year old sister, if she is unfamiliar with SW) and who want their own version of the OT experience - by making a flyby of OT setups and re-performing them.

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#895543
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Anchorhead said:

Delicieuxz said:
I can’t accept TFA as a real entry in the SW saga because it devalues the events in the original trilogy, and renders all those trials, lessons, and victories as nullified, by the very people who achieved them.

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/off-the-clock-space-opera-millennials-and-their-gr/1100-5371/

This article is an excellent explanation of why some fans may be struggling with Lucas’ fairy tale ending being erased. Real life doesn’t always end with dancing plush toys.

It isn’t the ending of the original trilogy that would be negated by TFA, it’s the whole development throughout that period of time. Reality doesn’t revert. There may be similar things going on, but the states which create them are not the states which created the former. The considerations change. In TFA, Abrahms just reverts to the previous considerations and tries to rinse through them again.

Reality is not a do-over for the sake of millennial viewers’ emotions. Reality is not Han Solo smuggling and in the same money-trouble situations as we first encountered him in, as a senior citizen. Reality is not Leia being a general princess of the rebel resistance against a hegemony power with a mega weapon capable of destroying worlds in a single blast, running a fighter ship mission against the base while it powers up to fire on the rebel hideout… and as a senior, decades after she already ran that plot.

TFA isn’t ineligible as an equal entrant to the SW saga alongside the OT on grounds of it denying any emotions of the original trilogy, but because it technically and logically doesn’t add up, because it’s completely derivative, and because it makes no effort to have plausible explanations for why it’s simply a revert to OT tropes. A person has to be willing to shut down their mind and ignore all the details to be able to go along with TFA. And I expect that TFA is quite palatable to millennials, who it seems that the movie was made for.

So in the case of the SW OT, reality does seem to end with dancing bears, because it sure hasn’t shown itself thereafter.

TV’s Frink said:

Delicieuxz said:

Because TFA negates the value and meaning of the original trilogy’s sacrifices and victories, and because TFA’s value is its replication of those original trilogy experiences, its existence depends on the original trilogy evaluating as True.

TFA is dependent upon the original trilogy in all ways. But because TFA negates the victories and outcomes of the original trilogy, if the original trilogy evaluates as False, then TFA also evaluates as False. If TFA evaluates as True, then the original trilogy evaluates as False, and therefore TFA also evaluates as False. If the original trilogy evaluates evaluates as True, then TFA evaluates as False.

TFA evaluates as False against the original trilogy. So where the original trilogy is True, TFA not a part of its saga.

Are you a computer?

As I said, the TFA issues are not emotional ones, but logical ones. It logically and technically doesn’t work as a same-universe OT SW sequel.

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#895510
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Bingowings said:
I’m not sure if English is your first language but that is what I said. The imagery used in the Throne Room scene is meant to evoke the original intent of the Triumph of the Will composition, that of heroism and triumph not the feelings associated with Nazism. The Imperial uniforms and Jack Boots and even to some extent Vader’s helmet is supposed to remind us of Nazis.

Hmm, I see. I must have read your quote in a particular frame of mind.

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#895498
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Yoda Is Your Father said:
Have you seen the early TFA storyboards in the ‘art of’ book which show an intro shot that was going to mimic the famous star destroyer shot from ANH?

I haven’t see that. But there are a lot of scenes like that, such as when Finn removes his storm trooper mask to deliver an ‘I’m here to save you’ line to Po.

Another case is the supreme leader figure, who appears via projection, being a ghoulish looking character, pale and wrinkled skin, talking cryptically, being master over millennial Vader and the other officer… is all an attempted remanifestation of the original trilogy’s emperor.

In other cases, TFA recycles the same collection of scene ingredients from the past: a desert planet, scavenger child, collector foremen who ruthlessly take advantage of scavengers (who get comeuppance, of a kind), all in the same pot, comprising the sensory elements for that part of the story, and basis for that scavenger character.

All these things meant to evoke the senses from the original trilogy. But the thing is, those experiences already have their true forms in the original trilogy, and when they’re replicated, their greatest value is that they trigger the senses of the originals, but are a bit less authentic, for it.

TFA, to be equal to the original trilogy, would be as good in quality, matching the design tones, while being novel with the details and ideas. Abrahms noticed a lot of the things that make Star Wars great, but he clearly didn’t have the understanding within himself to develop truly new and universe-progressive content using all those same qualities. So he did the same things with them that the original movies did, copying them.

But Abrahms is clearly close to understanding how these things all work, but I wonder if he even notices himself that what he’s doing, copying these setups, is a different behaviour than actively considering creations, having these qualities existing within himself.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

Delicieuxz said:

The basis for all the trouble of TFA is that Han and Leia were bad parents… and somehow that one thing resulted in a reset of everything to Episode IV’s state, so that all the same motions could be gone through again - yet the main characters in TFA don’t notice that they’re just doing all the same things all over again.

I didn’t take ‘bad parenting’ from the film, but the fact that history is repeating itself… surely that’s an intentional message. History repeats itself in reality too. I think “those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it” is a pretty cool theme for a sequel trilogy.

Whether the film mentions it or not, Han and Leia having a kid is what is behind TFA’s tragedies and greatest challenges and threat towards the galaxy.

The presented outcome of that child in TFA is the mechanism for all the resets within the movie: Han and Chewie being daring rogue smugglers (because that’s what people like to think of them as), Leia as princess general (again, because that’s what people like to think of her as… but doesn’t she ever experience job fatigue, and a sense of futility at her lot?), Luke in hiding while the Jedi are back in the role of being hunted to exterminate (because ANH and the original Star Wars is cool, obviously…), Light vs Dark force-weilders, and there’s more.

It all hinges on Han and Leia having that child, and that child going astray, which implies that Han and Leia didn’t foster the understanding and loving relationship that would keep a kid from going full villain for the sake of being full villain.

And I can’t accept TFA as a real entry in the SW saga because it devalues the events in the original trilogy, and renders all those trials, lessons, and victories as nullified, by the very people who achieved them.

Han’s semen and Leia’s ovaries are more powerful than anything any force-weilder, the rebel alliance, or the empire did in the films. It’s like ‘Oh, we’ve saved the galaxy, this is the greatest thing ever!’ And then, one kid later, ‘Oops, back to the beginning’, and even in the lifetimes of those who saved the galaxy before.

And what did these great head-strong galactic-threat conquerors do, in response? They ran away. And they ran, conveniently for the purposes of TFA’s intentions, right back to their original character roles, unchanged in any way, despite both being seniors. And why does Han have no money? He’s royalty and hero. TFA turns too many blind eyes for its story to be taken as being alongside the original trilogy.

TFA is not a progression, but a reset, and so renders the original trilogy futile and meaningless. And so, as I see it, either the original trilogy is real, or TFA is real. But both are incompatible in the same manifested reality.

Because TFA negates the value and meaning of the original trilogy’s sacrifices and victories, and because TFA’s value is its replication of those original trilogy experiences, its existence depends on the original trilogy evaluating as True.

TFA is dependent upon the original trilogy in all ways. But because TFA negates the victories and outcomes of the original trilogy, if the original trilogy evaluates as False, then TFA also evaluates as False. If TFA evaluates as True, then the original trilogy evaluates as False, and therefore TFA also evaluates as False. If the original trilogy evaluates evaluates as True, then TFA evaluates as False.

TFA evaluates as False against the original trilogy. So where the original trilogy is True, TFA not a part of its saga.

Delicieuxz said:

Also. before watching TFA, I started to watch Episode 2 of the prequel trilogy, thinking I would enjoy it while passing some time. I ended up shutting it off because it was just crap. I hadn’t seen any of it in years, and before putting it on, I thought it couldn’t be as bad as my memory was suggesting to me. Man, my memory knew what it was talking about. For the short time I watched it, Episode 2 was abysmal, like a half-assed clumsy children’s cartoon, made by people who didn’t know that making something nonsensical and flamboyant doesn’t amount to quality children’s programming.

I’ve only seen AOTC once, in the cinema when it first came out, but I’m glad to learn that my memory also knows what it’s talking about 😃

I wish I could say there was some degree of joking in my given impression, but I can’t. I was going to watch Ep 2, and then 3, but I’m not going to start with 3 now. Notice I didn’t even think to try starting with Ep 1.

To me, Star Wars is a trilogy, and it works as one. And again, to me, TFA is an amusing fanfiction, that is clearly fanfiction.

But I think that using quantum mechanics or something, and beyond time as we know it, that somewhere there exists a good SW prequel trilogy, and an authentic sequel trilogy. We just need to bring ourselves up from where we are, to that reality.

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Bingowings said:

The Triumph of The Will is a quoted inspiration for that composition. The original source might send shivers up our spines but for patriotic Germans it may have felt good back then. Even the title A New Hope has fascistic undertones. Hitlerism plays with the same heroic language that mythology does. Star Wars is modern mythology.

None of that is Nazi imagery, trying to evoke feelings based on expressed association. The A New Hope shot posted above is not trying to instil audience feeling by conjuring up a known counterpart, particularly a beaten-do-death and low brow cheap fall-back one, such as Nazi imagery in serious fiction.

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TV’s Frink said:

Delicieuxz said:

TV’s Frink said:

I never got a sense of the “bad parents” thing.

It’s not phrased like that in the movie, but the muscle in the First Order is Han and Leia’s son, who went to the dark side. And Han and Leia question themselves over why it happened.

And it’s also said by Solo that the reason the supreme ruler or whatever wants him is for his power.

I find it very over the top and not entirely serious to have a plot which hinges on the premise that Han and Leia could’ve done simply something, or many things differently with their son, but that now the whole galaxy is experiencing a total reboot of the same threat as in Episode IV.

Realism is a bad thing in a sci-fi fantasy movie, I guess?

Marriages fall apart because of something that happens or doesn’t happen with a child. I found it interesting to put that in a Star Wars movie.

There’s a deleted scene in Aliens (reinserted in the SE) that explains how Ripley lost her daughter and it’s what drove her caring for Newt. I loved that.

I also loved Sandra Bullock’s backstory in Gravity, and even some of the backstory in The Babadook.

But different life experiences bring different viewpoints. My viewpoint is shaped by my experiences.

My point is that what TFA does is not realistic. ‘Marriages sometimes fall apart’ does not lead to ‘therefore it makes total sense that Han and Leia’s kid resulted in a reboot of rebel vs new empire in SW’.

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#895330
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TV’s Frink said:

Delicieuxz said:

TavorX said:

I may not agree with most of your points, I found it interesting that you recognize it as a homage. I’ve seen/read comments of TFA being a homage is a good thing rather than a bad thing. I’m just saying I’m surprised you didn’t call it a ripoff or a ANH clone.

When people say homage as a good thing, they might mean the tones, the dialog, the visual designs… and in those things, creating a continuity with the original trilogy is a great thing.

But the homage which I think makes TFA an inequal SW film is so many of its setups, like Han and Chewie still being smugglers

Not still, but again. Han went back to “what he knew” when things fell apart.

a force-wielding villain who wears a voice-shifting mask and black suit

He idolizes Vader. Makes perfect sense.

It makes sense in that a weak, and I would say lame write-off explanation was given to accomplish the film maker’s desire of having specifically a new Vader in the film.

What happened to the character at the end of TFA wasn’t shown, and it may be that he’ll be all mechanized in the next film, just like Vader.

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#895325
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TV’s Frink said:

I never got a sense of the “bad parents” thing.

It’s not phrased like that in the movie, but the muscle in the First Order is Han and Leia’s son, who went to the dark side. And Han and Leia question themselves over why it happened.

And it’s also said by Solo that the reason the supreme ruler or whatever wants him is for his power.

I find it very over the top and not entirely serious to have a plot which hinges on the premise that Han and Leia could’ve done simply something, or many things differently with their son, but that now the whole galaxy is experiencing a total reboot of the same threat as in Episode IV.

It must be hard for those two to know that they’re responsible for the troubles now facing everyone - though the movie doesn’t acknowledge this. They had a son, and whoops, all the rebels victories are now undone and everything is right back to where they were.

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TavorX said:

I may not agree with most of your points, I found it interesting that you recognize it as a homage. I’ve seen/read comments of TFA being a homage is a good thing rather than a bad thing. I’m just saying I’m surprised you didn’t call it a ripoff or a ANH clone.

When people say homage as a good thing, they might mean the tones, the dialog, the visual designs… and in those things, creating a continuity with the original trilogy is a great thing.

But the homage which I think makes TFA an inequal SW film is so many of its setups, like Han and Chewie still being smugglers, Leia still being a general princess leading a resistance against a nefarious ruling hegemony, a force-wielding villain who wears a voice-shifting mask and black suit, a new single super-weapon threatening the rebel alliance, etc.

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#895316
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I think Abrahms got the tone mostly right, the dialog and acting is good, but it’s like an amalgamation of situation reprisals from the original trilogy. So I think it’s an OK fan homage, but not an authentic part of the Star Wars story.

I don’t take TFA to be an canon part of the SW saga, because its construction and meaning is, frankly, derivative and absurd.

The basis for all the trouble of TFA is that Han and Leia were bad parents… and somehow that one thing resulted in a reset of everything to Episode IV’s state, so that all the same motions could be gone through again - yet the main characters in TFA don’t notice that they’re just doing all the same things all over again.

The film is wilfully uncaring of its constant recasting of setups, imagery, scenarios, banters from the original SW trilogy. And as the film doesn’t take itself to be an equal part of the SW saga, but rather a homage to it, neither do I take it as being a believable entry.

A lot of The tone of TFA is well done, and very much Star Wars, unlike the films of the prequel trilogy. A lot of the dialog makes sense, and the acting is pretty good. But it’s all used to recreate facsimile experiences and imagery from the original trilogy. It’s playing pretend.

The Nazi imagery scenes in TFA were beneath anything Star Wars, and the film jumped the shark at that point. Also, Hans supposed death was silly in so many ways: On a bridge over a chasm, mimicking the Luke and Vader scene at Cloud City in ESB… father facing his son, who is literally a Vader wannabe… the beam of light on them, which fades as the son makes his attack…

Forget the invalid Ewoks = care bears jest argument, everything about Solo’s son being what he was, and Solo’s cheap gimmicky in TFA death was ultimate cheesiness, and came across to me as very contrived.

Also, TFA is flagrantly nerdy (the light saber hilt, the Vader wannabe, the contrived Han death - which Harrison always wanted, the mega weapon plot device, and more), while the original SW saga is not.

Overall, I found TFA to be a decent watch, but it also hurt me a bit to watch, because it used the classic characters, their actors, and did so much right - but in the end it doesn’t have the sincerity or integrity of the original trilogy, and is clearly a homage to the original Star Wars saga, and not a part of it.

Also. before watching TFA, I started to watch Episode 2 of the prequel trilogy, thinking I would enjoy it while passing some time. I ended up shutting it off because it was just crap. I hadn’t seen any of it in years, and before putting it on, I thought it couldn’t be as bad as my memory was suggesting to me. Man, my memory knew what it was talking about. For the short time I watched it, Episode 2 was abysmal, like a half-assed clumsy children’s cartoon, made by people who didn’t know that making something nonsensical and flamboyant doesn’t amount to quality children’s programming.