This is gonna be great. I’ve been waiting so long for projects on Raiders to happen, and my dream is coming true, one piece at a time.
The first sentence in his paragraph isn’t some grand spoiler that’ll no doubt ruin it for someone.
For some it would. Stop projecting.
SPOILERZ
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.I wouldn’t believe it if someone said their experience in the film was ruined because they knew beforehand that there isn’t a scene where they get to see two animated characters do it. This is a Batman movie. I don’t think anyone wants to watch cartoons do it in a Batman movie, let alone be heartbroken if they don’t get to see it.
It has been like 3 years since I read The Killing Joke but I don’t remember Batman and you know who kissing so assuming that is something that didn’t happen in the original Graphic Novel that’s a huge thing. That can definitely have an effect on someone’s viewing experience. Especially someone who is into Batman more than you and I.
I said first sentence. Not first line. I guess we’ve been discussing two separate pieces of spoilage.
From the “Share your good news!” thread
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
That person is speaking a non English language in prayer. In what way is that strictly gibberish?
She’s muttering things that are not words.
Christians who think speaking in tongues is weird and gibberish are a really big problem in the Church community.
I don’t know to what extant you could call me a Christian (although maybe I still am, who knows?), but yes, even in my most devout times I was against this because no one knows what it means. I had much more harsh words for it when I was real crazily into the whole Bible thing, but that lady doesn’t know what she’s saying in the video. She’s babbling. Why not pray in a real language and actually use words?
Does she have to understand what she is saying? Can you give proof that she is not speaking real words? Non-English does not equal “not a real language”. She’s exercising faith. She is praying in a language she alone does not know because the Holy Ghost is empowering her to do so. Utilizing the Lord’s gifts righteously is a form of praise and worship.
Also, regarding your statement about 1 Corinthians, I don’t think it is condemning the use of a gift from God. Paul says to strive and hope for greater gifts than that, because it’s span of use for reaching others is limited. Even then, sometimes God speaks directly to groups of believers through a gift of tongues.
Just this past week at camp it happened. Someone received a word from God in other tongues and shouted it out to everyone there. Then, as is necessary, another student was gifted with the ability to interpret meaning, and he relayed God’s words to the rest of us.
What denomination is this? Pentecostal?
I think it’s technically Pentecostal. It’s the Assemblies Of God, but I’m not sure if I can really speak for the everyone who’s a part of it. I don’t really think I would consider myself denominational at all, personally. That just emphasizes stereotypes that I’m not associated with. I (and the speaker at camp that week) believe in the power of God.
Here on Earth, it’s not just about holding your faith close and not letting it out for fear of offending. It’s about allowing as many people as possible to make the right choice. To be Jesus’ witnesses to the ends of the Earth. To do what Jesus did, and greater things than that, through the hand of God.
Dek Rollins said:
And I honestly don’t know what language I’m speaking when I do it.Then how do you know what you’re saying?
I don’t, specifically. I have faith, and I focus on what ever it is that I need to. If I’m just praising God, I’ll focus directly on that and let God empower me. If I’m praying over someone’s injury, I’ll specify in prayer, and focus on that, and on God’s power and mercy.
Perhaps this is better suited in the religion thread.
Here we are.
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^I was actually about to, but I guess we should let little YWHY have his fun.
The first sentence in his paragraph isn’t some grand spoiler that’ll no doubt ruin it for someone.
For some it would. Stop projecting.
SPOILERZ
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I wouldn’t believe it if someone said their experience in the film was ruined because they knew beforehand that there isn’t a scene where they get to see two animated characters do it. This is a Batman movie. I don’t think anyone wants to watch cartoons do it in a Batman movie, let alone be heartbroken if they don’t get to see it.
The first sentence in his paragraph isn’t some grand spoiler that’ll no doubt ruin it for someone. If you’re so OCD about reading everything on the page before you scroll past a paragraph that clearly says SPOILERZ in front of it, that’s the readers problem. No matter how many dots are put between, the reader still has to choose to either scroll past or read the paragraph.
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
That person is speaking a non English language in prayer. In what way is that strictly gibberish?
Christians who think speaking in tongues is weird and gibberish are a really big problem in the Church community.
Also, regarding your statement about 1 Corinthians, I don’t think it is condemning the use of a gift from God. Paul says to strive and hope for greater gifts than that, because it’s span of use for reaching others is limited. Even then, sometimes God speaks directly to groups of believers through a gift of tongues.
Just this past week at camp it happened. Someone received a word from God in other tongues and shouted it out to everyone there. Then, as is necessary, another student was gifted with the ability to interpret meaning, and he relayed God’s words to the rest of us.
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries.
Yes.
I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I think mfm is referring to people who fake it because people force them to “learn” it.
I know a few things here and there. LOL
I am wondering if MfM is referring to they type of “speaking in tongues” that happens during possession?
Eh.
As far as I know, what you are referring to is how I described it but I guess it is a positive possession of sorts compared to an evil one, correct?
Speaking in other tongues is in no way “possession”. It is a thought inspired by the Holy Spirit. I have every right to start speaking in other tongues and stop speaking in other tongues whenever I want. It’s a prayer language. And I honestly don’t know what language I’m speaking when I do it.
Back in January of this year (I believe it was either the 29th or the 30th), I received the ability to speak in other tongues from God. I’ve tried to keep in practice, praying in the spirit and getting closer to God. It hadn’t gotten nearly as good as I would have hoped since then, but I strive further nonetheless.
Can you clarify? Do you mean speaking gibberish? I don’t want to sound like I’m getting on a moral high horse; I mean, back when I was a little wild I used to think I was “possessed” during music events, so don’t think I’m coming to this from some kind of purity angle. The speaking in tongues thing has always weirded me out though because I knew some kids whose parents tried to force them to do it, and watching it was one of the freakiest things I’ve seen in my life. Then in a somewhat recent born again phase I thought of it as witchcraft or demonic possession or whatever. I’m curious if we’re talking the same thing though, because the “speaking in tongues” that I saw was genuinely disturbing and is burned into my head to this very day.
Speaking in other tongues, referring to the same sort of thing that happened to the believers in the upper room on the day of Pentecost. You know, when all of them had tongues of fire sitting over their heads as they were spiritually baptized in the Holy Ghost and they all began to speak in languages that they knew not? Remember that super important piece of Biblical history?
(Read the first two chapters of Acts.)
I don’t think there was flame hovering over me, but it happened, and it was really cool and weird experience. I can just speak through the spirit whenever I want now.
I’m really not sure if I know what it is you’re talking about. Could you clarify on what you mean by “I knew some kids whose parents tried to force them to do it…”?
I wasn’t aware that one could “learn” it. I thought it was a spur of the moment thing due to inspiration being directed at someone by God during prayer. I’m not trying to be mean either I just don’t quite understand how one has to learn it. I thought the experience was referred to as being “touched” by the hand of God.
Yeah, your pretty much right on.
Zero words are desired.
I guess I didn’t consider the idea that an atheist kid would have die hard Christian parents that would send them to a Church based summer camp that a lot of Christian kids don’t even go to. Sorry.
I don’t think the scenario is completely implausible, I just didn’t think about it because it’s not something I would expect to occur very often.
I think he means an atheist who is forced to go there would be weirded out by such a place.
Well, yeah. I was just confused by his statement, because it sounded like he was entertaining the idea that an atheist would go to a Bible Camp. I’m not sure why an atheist would ever be forced to go to there.
And I’d like to note that not everything that happens there is religious “Church stuff”. A lot of time is actually spent on sports activities.
I’m back from my week at Bible Camp with a little story…
Bible camp? That’s a thing?
It’s just a Church based summer camp.
That would be so weird for an atheist.
What?
I’m back from my week at Bible Camp with a little story…
I have struggled spiritually for several years, concerning sexual purity and the like. Sometimes it gets a little easier for a day or two, sometimes I feel like I’m missing Hell by a hair. I’ve struggled for so long.
Back in January of this year (I believe it was either the 29th or the 30th), I received the ability to speak in other tongues from God. I’ve tried to keep in practice, praying in the spirit and getting closer to God. It hadn’t gotten nearly as good as I would have hoped since then, but I strive further nonetheless.
Come this past week at camp. It was the best week at camp I’ve ever experienced, and I’ve gone every year since I was in third grade. Wednesday night had an amazing service in the camp chapel, and it was a liberating experience in the presence of God and prayer singing in the spirit. There was one thing, though. I felt through Thursday that if I went back home after camp and still fell to the same struggles that held my life captive for years past, the greatest day, and the greatest week I ever had at camp wouldn’t be worth having.
That feeling being on my mind Thursday got me praying about it during the Thursday night service. At one point, a lot of students went up and sat at the alter. I went up too, though I was kind of in the back of the crowd behind a first row pew, because there wasn’t enough room on the floor to be any closer. during that time, I just began to pray, and pray, and pray. I asked God, “When I go home after camp is over, will I be free? Will I fall back again, or will I be free when I step into my home again?”
I continued to pray over this question, and the head pastor had come on stage and began to pray over the students. I forgot exactly what he was saying over us, but I heard this:
As I prayed to God, he ended his prayer saying a particular sentence twice. I don’t remember what his exact phrase was, but he said something like: “Let freedom come down on this place. Let freedom come down on this place.”
These words spoke life into me. God used these words to answer my prayer, and I could feel the presence of God begin to comfort me, as my chains were broken off. I also immediately felt the demons that surrounded me begin to say, “It’s a lie, you didn’t get any freedom from him. You have no authority over us!”
I was just like, “Shut up.”
No, but there was a sign that said National Treasure II (not the actual title) was shot in the area. We didn’t have a backpack full of Aquafina bottles, so we weren’t able to find the correct rock.
Welcome back. I guess you won the shootout.
Actually, I missed and got my hat shot off.
😛
One day of restfulness, and Monday morning I have to leave again, for another week. Bible Camp. I really wish the schedule didn’t have to be so tight.
*sigh*
Regardless, it’ll still be a great week, and I look forward to it.
Thank you. 😄
I’m back! The Black Hills were great!
It was a 12 hour drive to get down there, with lots of driving between, so we went through a lot of albums in the van CD player. The Monkees, Kansas, Boston, The Doobie Brothers, Supertramp, ZZ Top, Crosby, Stills & Nash, Joe Walsh, Bread, Styx, Rush , Santana, Maynard Ferguson, Peter Frampton; all that good stuff.
There was a huge storm that went over us on the drive there. At first, it was just watching lightning in the distance (which created one of the coolest experiences listening to Miracles Out Of Nowhere I’ve had), but then the rain started. It got so bad, we couldn’t see the road ahead, so we had to pull over on the highway and wait it out.
I didn’t get as many memories rushing back as I thought I would, but I did get a few 😄.
One of the things we did in the past times we’ve visited there was get some photos in cowboy/western gear. When we came to do that this time, I made a special request for this photo:
The person in the foreground is my brother (2 years my senior), and I’m in the background.
We also took a tour of Black Hills Cavern, and that was very interesting.
Needles highway was really cool too; I climbed a lot of rocks.
It was a fun week, though having our tent on an incline didn’t help…
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I’ll be gone for the next week; camping at the Black Hills, in South Dakota! 😄
This’ll be the first my family has camped there since I was five years old, so I’m sure a lot of now vague memories will come flooding back.
What was the last non-film-score album you listened to?
I tell you guys what, if “moron” is offensive, I apologize and will do my best to no longer use it. I’m assuming “idiot” is offensive as well, so I will try not to use that either.
Thank you for finally acknowledging that.
You’re welcome. Now can you answer my question?
Umm… what question?
It was in the rest of the quote, the part you deleted.
Ah, that. I didn’t realize it was a question; it seemed more like a statement that you were inquiring conformation on. In that case…
I assume “of limited intelligence” is ok, right? I’m assuming so because that’s impscum’s favorite and he never says anything wrong.
Nope.