DaveHolmes

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Post: #248937
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248937/action/topic#248937
Time: 1-Oct-2006 5:34 PM

Originally posted by: Spock

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
I don't have the Omar DVD cover in hi res yet. I never did.

Omar plans to revise it further, and then he'll send it to me I'm sure .... via FTP.

He is?! Is he going to incorporate the full Once... logo instead of just the O?

That wouldn't look right because the rest of the paragraph text is in a different font.

Post: #248225
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248225/action/topic#248225
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:17 AM

Originally posted by: marioxb

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
MarioXB - The released versions bear absolutely no resemblance to the true version of the film, so comparing them on a really detailed level as if they are worth analyzing is pointless. No one has done it and no one should do it.

Sounds like a job for me then! I love doing pointless things that no one else cares about or wants to do. They never should have released the Richard Lester cut of Superman II, but they did. There are lots of comparisons of this with the soon-to-be-released Richard Donner version. It sounds like almost the exact same situation happened there as with this movie.

But you don't get it - read through the thread and you'll find that the released version(s) have extra characters and musical numbers that aren't in the Recobbled Cut. So unless you want to hear people singing that aren't on screen, I don't know why you'd do this.

Post: #248138
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248138/action/topic#248138
Time: 26-Sep-2006 6:35 PM

I know it's not in the works - but I think we should keep track of what can be included on Mark III if it ever comes about -

Extras:
-New images in image gallery that have surfaced since Mark II (Cannes artwork, high-res logos, DougieKirk.com backgrounds, etc.)

Film:
-High-res logo before opening credits
-Incorporate pencil test (Princess looking out on balcony) if possible

Disc:
-Include newly surfaced pencil tests in the menus (Princess looking out on balcony, etc.)
-Reauthor disc so that after film is over, the screen goes back to the main menu
-Add closing credits

Anything else?

Hopefully the upcoming US release of the butchered cut has something that is usable.

Post: #247912
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247912/action/topic#247912
Time: 25-Sep-2006 8:15 PM

I guess I'm the only one that likes the Cannes artwork.

It was done by the original artists and shows the main characters positioned logically with regards to their relationships with one another.

That's good enough for me.

Post: #247485
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247485/action/topic#247485
Time: 23-Sep-2006 2:25 PM

Omar made some typos in his back cover description.

The second paragraph should read (in my opinion):

For the first time ever, enjoy the original version of this lost animated classic from Academy Award® winning animator/director Richard Williams (Who Framed Roger Rabbit). Nearly 30 years in the making, this film has been painstakingly restored to its original form by Garrett Gilchrist.

He also fails to mention the Allied Films trailer as an extra - does Omar have Mark II? Or maybe he just omitted it for cosmetic reasons.

Post: #247456
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247456/action/topic#247456
Time: 23-Sep-2006 11:53 AM

I've been thinking - should we try and contact Warner Licensing to see if they can provide a better copy of the "Thief" licensing trailer?

They don't own the rights to the film anymore, so maybe they have it archived and can help out.

Post: #241798
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241798/action/topic#241798
Time: 6-Sep-2006 5:56 PM

Before anyone crows that the pop-up packaging may be the only special feature, the 2-disc claim made by that one guy has to have some basis in fact. If it were just the same disc as the September 12 release, there'd be no point in holding it back for two more months.

Maybe they need extra time to produce the packaging?

Post: #240722
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/240722/action/topic#240722
Time: 2-Sep-2006 6:26 PM

And remember that we can always rent it or get it from Netflix instead of buying it.

Post: #238921
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238921/action/topic#238921
Time: 27-Aug-2006 1:06 PM

It's just that I can't fathom why they would release one of the previous cuts on two discs as a Collector's Edition without including extras.

Unless this is a "Princess and The Cobbler" / "Arabian Knight" double pack or something.

Post: #238907
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238907/action/topic#238907
Time: 27-Aug-2006 11:28 AM

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
The Sept 12 release will be the crap version and contain nothing we don't already have.

Is this confirmed?

Post: #237604
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237604/action/topic#237604
Time: 22-Aug-2006 10:05 PM

Originally posted by: ocpmovie Goddamnit, they've deleted the Recobbled Cut from the wiki again. People, put it back when they do that.

This is the guy that keeps deleting it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FuriousFreddy

Post: #236602
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236602/action/topic#236602
Time: 18-Aug-2006 2:34 PM

Originally posted by: macronencer
Quick update on the poster: I have found someone who can scan it in A3-sized sections for stitching together.

What do you mean by "stitching together"?

Just scan the logo in as few images as possible and then, if it's more than one, we can edit them together digitally.

Post: #233834
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233834/action/topic#233834
Time: 10-Aug-2006 2:08 AM

I've been thinking - what if we record the dialogue from "The Majestic Fool" screenplay and then set that audio track against the artwork/cells that we have from the film?

We can of course insert the whole bread scene in its proper place.

I think that would make for another great supplemental DVD.

But who would do the voicework...

Hire someone? Do it ourselves?

Either way - just a thought.

Post: #232669
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/232669/action/topic#232669
Time: 5-Aug-2006 11:55 PM

Is the bread scene scripted the same way as it is in the video clip you have?

Post: #232463
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/232463/action/topic#232463
Time: 5-Aug-2006 2:11 AM

It's quiet here.

Almost...too quiet.

Post: #230851
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230851/action/topic#230851
Time: 31-Jul-2006 3:40 AM

Dougie Kirk had an extra image hidden in the root directory of his site -

http://www.dougiekirk.com/Animation/The-Thief/massacre-field-large.jpg

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/2480/massacrefieldlargesc8.jpg

I also stumbled across Raul Garcia's website and he has a small scan of an Art Babbitt drawing from the film -

http://www.hometown.aol.com/raulgarci/myhomepage/otherstudios1.htm

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/6214/thieffk5.gif

I cleaned it up a bit so the lines are clearer:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5106/thieffk5jg3.gif

Post: #230838
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230838/action/topic#230838
Time: 31-Jul-2006 1:50 AM

ocpmovie - have you seen this site before?

http://www.dougiekirk.com/Animation-Thief-Cobbler-1.html

His resume says he worked on the film from Nov 1990-May 1992.

Post: #230307
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230307/action/topic#230307
Time: 28-Jul-2006 10:07 PM

I think the reference footage (in the best possible quality) would make for a great DVD extra.

Even if you just put together a montage of the clips with a screen stating the name and year of each film, followed by the completed "Thief and The Cobbler" shot for each instance.

Post: #230195
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230195/action/topic#230195
Time: 28-Jul-2006 3:05 PM

You can see details in the poster logo that weren't visible in the version on the "Recobbled Cut" cover.

I'm wondering if the logo was intended to have the added color besides gold, though.

Post: #230075
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230075/action/topic#230075
Time: 28-Jul-2006 12:07 AM

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
I'm expecting the original screenplay for the Nasruddin film from John Dyson (Masteranimator.com)

It will be interesting to see what (if any) parts of the screenplay turned up in "Thief and The Cobbler".

Any chance you'll be transcribing it for online viewing?

Post: #229528
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229528/action/topic#229528
Time: 26-Jul-2006 4:11 PM

ocpmovie - are you including the production material found at http://www.masteranimator.com in the DVD galleries, or are you waiting for Outfield to scan them?

Post: #229331
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229331/action/topic#229331
Time: 26-Jul-2006 4:48 AM

Originally posted by: macronencer

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
If anyone can buy that for me and scan it, I can pay you back in a stack of DVDs, the complete collection or whatever.

I just went to the site to try that. I ended up in their eBay shop, and couldn't find the item. Perhaps that list was out of date

Edit: Just had another look. It's on CQout:

I'm pretty sure you can buy it at the set price by contacting the site owner via email:

flashbacks@tiscali.co.uk

And yeah, better ask about which of the two is in better condition.

Post: #229208
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229208/action/topic#229208
Time: 25-Jul-2006 10:45 PM

That's all old news, Dave.

Eh - it was new to me.

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
Here's something interesting ... the Princess and the Cobbler poster with the Thief title on it.

http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/gb100780.jpg

It's for sale on this site - there's two copies available for £13 (listed as Arabian Knight and Arabian Knights):

http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/a_movie.htm

The second copy has a different angle shot -

http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/gb100028.jpg

Post: #229178
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229178/action/topic#229178
Time: 25-Jul-2006 9:58 PM

Several production sketches from "Thief and The Cobbler" are for sale at this website -

http://www.vegalleries.com/other4.html

However, the site also provides fairly high-quality scans of the drawings for free:

Sketch 1
Sketch 2
Sketch 3
Sketch 4
Sketch 5
Sketch 6
Sketch 7
Sketch 8

Also, the collector at this site has a scan of a completed film cell featuring Princess Yum Yum -

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hwalther/miscellaneous-features.htm

Cell

Post: #228975
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228975/action/topic#228975
Time: 25-Jul-2006 5:21 AM

Came across this post by Dean Roberts, who worked on "Thief and The Cobbler" -

http://theblogofkells.blogspot.com/2006/04/thief-that-never-gave-up.html

i animated the scene with zigzag holding the cobbler's hand . its nice to know the next gen of animators still rate dick williams and that film . it nearly killed me !!!!there never was a real finished DW version of the film - the last stage at which dick was involved was a two thirds animated film and full colour storyboards all drawn in marker pens by dick himself . i should know cos i was high for weeks !!!

So I'd guess that's the extent of what was completed under Williams' supervision - 2/3 of the film animated with the rest done in color storyboards by Williams.