Darth_Evil

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Post: #248463
Topic: What's Original '77 and What's Not?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248463/action/topic#248463
Time: 28-Sep-2006 1:29 AM

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
I'm gonna compare EoD and new DVD myself. I have no idea if the EoD crawl is authentic, but I'm going to go with my gut reaction of "Thank the Maker" when I first saw it, and give it authentic status in my mind. It will be the grail, and if the new DVD pretty much matches it, thumbs up from me.

(boris' visual evidence posted above with the dark star crossing an "a" and a film scratch on a frame of an "e" was very convincing in its own right.)

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I really have no idea why there's a debate on this. It may or may not be the original crawl, but if you watch it and instantly recognize it as such, then why dig deep? Everyone will dig until they've found a problem, and then be upset with the film because there's a tiny problem that you won't realize unless you analyze it very, very closely. If it looks original when you're watching it, then it might as well be. If your gut instinct is "Thank the maker," then thank the maker and enjoy the film.

Post: #248461
Topic: "Troy" Re-Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248461/action/topic#248461
Time: 28-Sep-2006 1:24 AM

I loved the original cut, but this is a very interesting idea and your changes all make lots of sense.

Post: #248460
Topic: was was it called ?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248460/action/topic#248460
Time: 28-Sep-2006 1:15 AM

The tiles for the prequels SHOULD have been:

Star Wars: Episode I: Another Trip to the Well

Star Wars: Episode II: Milking the Cash Cow

Star Wars: Episode III: The Search for More Money

Post: #248233
Topic: The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248233/action/topic#248233
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:01 AM

Don't lose hope CO. I think it will be a long time before people see the films as a "saga." Lots of parents will show thier kids the original trilogy, simply because its what they know the best, and lots of new parents never even saw the Prequel Trilogy. The general population finds the PT to simply be bad movies. It's not just us OT fans that hate it.

Parents will continue to show thier kids the OT, and those kids will show thier kids the OT, and the PT will stay where it is right now---a nice little addition, but something you can rent and watch when you get the time. Not the OT. Never the OT. Parents won't try doing i in order. They'll go to Blockbuster (or Netflix nowadays) and look for a good family movie. They get to the S section. There's all six films. Which is the film they go for first? ANH. They go for ANH. Because when the words "Star Wars" appear in people's heads, they do not think the words "Anakin," or "1, 2, 3" or saga. They think "trilogy", "Luke," and "Vader." And then grab the ORIGINAL film.

I don't think that the "saga" will ever be realized. In this day and age, people are more impressed with flashy graphics than storytelling, I know. Especially the young people. But hell, I'm young, and I only like special effects when they enhance and add something to the film. Not when they ARE the film. And if at least one person exists in this generation, then all hope is not lost. And for reasons stated above, older generations will not let the flame die out. Their children of this generation will see the films, and though the PT might be something they find more interesting now, when they're young, but by the time they're 14, they'll realize the PT for what they really are, and only watch the OT.

The saga will never realized.

Post: #248175
Topic: Idea: for... Custom Made DVD Sets
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248175/action/topic#248175
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:19 PM

Here's another set I've recently compiled.

Now, this set is much more broad then the others, because there are lots more discs (or different versions of these films on DVD) that could go in the set.

STAR WARS TRILOGY----5 Disc Tin

It starts with the basic Best Buy Tin with all three movies in there. (Keep in mind, it doesn't have to be a tin. Any Star Wars box that holds three regular size cases works.) For all three movies, take out the 2004 discs. Replace the 2004 ANH disc with "Star Wars: A Musical Journey." Replace the ROTJ 2004 disc with the Star Wars Bonus Disc from the 2004 release. Take the booklet that came with this and put it behind the ROTJ booklet. On ESB, simply get rid of the disc one holder that swings around, and put the disc in the back.

As I said before, this set is very interchangable. If you haven't bought the 9/12 release, you can use your bootlegs and 2 disc cases. If there are other bonus discs you have, use them. If you don't like one the discs mentioned above, don't use it. Custom cover art should be used if you prefer it.

As for packaging. I said earlier that any box will do, and that's true, but in MY personal set that I've listed out, I use the tin and it is very, very nice. Poster art all around, durable, and fits nicely on a shelf. The films are stored safely. So this is how I'd reccomend it, but you can use my custom set as a basis for yours. That's what this thread is about. People post thier sets, exactly as they have them, and then put side notes for ways to change them. Some people might go with the formula written out, others might mix it up. Others might flame it, but it'll be cool to see how everyone makes thier own sets and help creativity in building your own sets.

Post: #248164
Topic: My Legendary Deed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248164/action/topic#248164
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:10 PM

Originally posted by: Ingo Sucks
My 15-year old cousin grew up with the Special Edition of the OT and the Prequels. Now, he is a beloved fan of the OOT. And it's all thanks to me. For his birthday, even though he had all six movies on official DVD, I burned him a copy of my Dark Jedi's Widescreen "FACES" set. When he took them home and watched them that night, his eyes were immediately opened. He realised all the terrific modelwork and puppetry and all the hand-made effort and perfect acting that went into the OOT that was nearly lost in the SE, that he now sees the OT as a much better story, as he doesn't think much of the prequels anymore. His favorite movie used to be Revenge of the Sith. Now it is Return of the Jedi, the Original Version, because even though it was the weakest of the three original movies, he decided it was ultimately better than the tedious acting and the over-the-top CG effects of Sith. And I was the one who got him down this path. Now he is here, on the originaltrilogy.com forums, ready to join the ranks of the true Star Wars fans......

That sounds a lot like my often told story. I grew up with the SE, and then I got some bootlegs off eBay because of all the hype. It was love at first sight.

And as weird as it may sound, coming from Darth Evil, the guy who constantly bashes the PT in all its forms, I did love the PT a year and a half ago. Just a simple year and a half. I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I was young and foolish you could say. But then I watched them again and started noticing all the flaws. Then I pulled out my DVD's of the OT (SE; still hadn't seen it unaltured; didn't know the differance) and I saw the differance between the two trilogies and just how bad the PT was. When I finally saw the OOT, I truly hated the prequels. I grew up. Lots of my friends still haven't seen the light, but in a few years they'll have grown up too and truly appriciate the OT and see how silly the PT is.

And welcome to the forums Darth Cold!

Post: #248156
Topic: This person added Qui-Gon into the end of Return of the Jedi as a force ghost.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248156/action/topic#248156
Time: 26-Sep-2006 7:41 PM

It looked really good. I liked Qui-Gon a lot in TPM. He saved the movie, and really was a great and well thought out (and acted) character. Too bad everything else sucked in the movie.

Post: #248155
Topic: Greedo subtitles outside the 16:9 frame
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248155/action/topic#248155
Time: 26-Sep-2006 7:39 PM

All you have to do is put the subtitles on while the movie is playing with you're remote. You'll see subs for Han as well, but they aren't distracting and you can turn them off when the scene is over. This really shouldn't be an issue...

Post: #248132
Topic: Happy Birthday Mark Hamill - September 25th
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248132/action/topic#248132
Time: 26-Sep-2006 6:00 PM

Originally posted by: Anchorhead

Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Wouldn't it have been great if you'd gone on to bigger and better thangs like you're buddy Harrison Ford?

Like what? - The carbon copy man-standing-up-to-authority role that he plays in every film these days? Complete with the one, overly-assertive, stern-faced, line shown in the trailer for every one of those movies. It's always the turning point where the everyman that he always plays finally takes control of his situation...

"How dare you, sir!"

"Get off of my plane!"

"Give me back my wife!"

He's settled nicely into typecasting. A new Indiana Jones would be a welcome change.

Well, at least the man has done something with his career. Mark Hamill was great in Star Wars, but did he do anything big after it? Anything noteworthy? I think not.

Post: #247959
Topic: Official Indiana Jones DVD Release
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247959/action/topic#247959
Time: 26-Sep-2006 1:10 AM

Originally posted by: TheCassidy

Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
If you can't notice changes to a movie, then why bother trying to find them? If you can't notice them, they don't matter. They won't interrupt your viewing. If you get on forums and try to find out details on little tiny things that MIGHT have been changed....well, suffice to say, that's kind of sad.

For instance, the crawl on the GOUT dvd's isn't the absolute original crawl, but you'd have to take screenshots, analyze it closely, watch it over and over, and if you do find something different, you're bothered by it. That's why if you don't notice any changes while just watching it, then there's no reason to worry.

That's apples and oranges, really. You're talking altering an original film image, versus digitally re-creating something and tacking it on to the start of a film.

I'm not sure why, when it comes to Indiana Jones, people are far more forgiving of the fact that the original, unaltered film has not been re-released on DVD versus Star Wars.

Granted, none of the story content has been changed, but the image was manipulated. I don't think the manipulation is done to the extent that we might be thinking, as far as I know only three cosmetic changes were made (cobra reflection, boulder guide track, matte lines) to 'Raiders.'

It's so minor that it's no wonder so many people are divided on the issue. I take a bigger issue with the colour "correction" that was done than anything else. 'Raiders' used to have an almost sepia-tone quality to it, and now it looks like a technicolour nightmare.

Jeez....these changes are so little you really have to dig to see them. I saw this movie on the big screen two weeks ago from an old print, and I'd watched the DVD a few days before that. No changes I could see. They're there, I know, but if you can't notice them without thinking about them, then why do they matter?

And for the record, the original unaltured versions of Star Wars have never made it to DVD either. But the changes made from theaters to the GOUT DVD probably amount to the same number of changes made to raiders.

And the thing about Sepia Tone and technicolor....I have no idea what you mean. Yes, I saw this, in a theater, from a real 35 mm print made back in the 80's and I saw no sepia quality to it. The colors are a little brighter on the DVD, but that's all I could notice. Of course, this print was 20 some years old and was fading.

Post: #247958
Topic: Happy Birthday Mark Hamill - September 25th
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247958/action/topic#247958
Time: 26-Sep-2006 1:04 AM

Happy birthday Mark. Wouldn't it have been great if you'd gone on to bigger and better thangs like you're buddy Harrison Ford?

Post: #247925
Topic: Official Indiana Jones DVD Release
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247925/action/topic#247925
Time: 25-Sep-2006 9:09 PM

If you can't notice changes to a movie, then why bother trying to find them? If you can't notice them, they don't matter. They won't interrupt your viewing. If you get on forums and try to find out details on little tiny things that MIGHT have been changed....well, suffice to say, that's kind of sad.

For instance, the crawl on the GOUT dvd's isn't the absolute original crawl, but you'd have to take screenshots, analyze it closely, watch it over and over, and if you do find something different, you're bothered by it. That's why if you don't notice any changes while just watching it, then there's no reason to worry.

Post: #247924
Topic: Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247924/action/topic#247924
Time: 25-Sep-2006 9:05 PM

I just saw a new Simpsons episode where "Duel of the Fates" was used. Funniest joke in the last few years...better than most of that episode.

Post: #247878
Topic: Worst movies ever.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247878/action/topic#247878
Time: 25-Sep-2006 6:15 PM

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I find that most people that complain about Snakes on a Plane were people that never actually saw it. I saw it at 10p.m. the night before opening day with a group of about 20 people, and it was hands down the most fun I've ever had in a theater. Ever. The movie itself may have been cheesy as hell, but I've seen movies that were a lot worse (and a lot less enjoyable) to watch. "Amityville Horror", "The Ring", and "Lady in the Water" come to mind.

I know. Snakes on a Plane was tons of fun, and while it isn't a masterpiece, it delievered everything it promised and then some. We got snakes on a plane, and we got Samuel L. Jackson going ape shit on them. It was cheesy and over the top, but that's what made it so darn fun!

Post: #247730
Topic: hi original trilogy peple
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247730/action/topic#247730
Time: 25-Sep-2006 12:25 AM

In fact, the petition got to over 70,000 posts I believe. It was cool. This forum became a haven for anyone who loved the original versions of Star Wars. Everyone here is a lot a like, and we can all relate to each other, which makes this such a great community. It's a lot better than IMDb, where there's a dick on every thread...

Post: #247649
Topic: Movie Ratings
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247649/action/topic#247649
Time: 24-Sep-2006 1:54 PM

It wasn't until 1984 or '85 that the PG-13 rating came out. Before then, the R rating was reserved for ONLY severly violent/disturbing/strongly sexual films. If a film was rated R back then, it was bad. No questions asked. Not like today, when you only have to say fuck three times to garner an R rating.

Fuck fuck fuck.

There. This post is rated R.

Anyway, PG was pretty broad, and for years there had been parental outcry for the content in PG films. The last straws were films like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and another Spielberg film, Poltergeist. Both graphic and disturbing, but not severe enough to get an R. (Not back then anyway.) Spielberg himself suggested a PG-13 rating, and it was created. But when the rating was still new, the MPAA was still fairly leniant on films. For instance, Mel Brook's Spaceballs, which would most likely garner a PG-13 or even an R today got a PG, and PG-13 had been around for a few years. The rating really took off in the early ninties, which was also the start of the MPAA being comprised of retards.

Ratings make zero sense anymore. They give an R rating to films that have no discernable R rated content in them, and an R to films that should be NC-17. (Think Jackass.) Ratings are just silly today. Anyone see snakes on a plane? It was rated R for good measure, but the list of reasons for it had sex BEFORE gore and violence. It had hardly any sex, but the MPAA thinks seeing a boob is worse than seeing a decapitation.

Sorry for the rant, I just think the MPAA is pretty stupid.

Post: #247647
Topic: 2007 Star Wars calendar - with DVD (?)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247647/action/topic#247647
Time: 24-Sep-2006 1:45 PM

Originally posted by: ESHBG
I ran into this tonight by dumb luck:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/TRNCAL/971019~Star-Wars-Posters.jpg

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Star-Wars-Posters_i1675215_.htm

Never mind. I think I'll go with another "Simpsons Fun Calander." They're cheap and worth some laughs...

Post: #247646
Topic: Ok. The OUT Covers for the UK- WHY!?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247646/action/topic#247646
Time: 24-Sep-2006 1:44 PM

Originally posted by: THX
Throw away the prequels. End of problem.

Hilarious....and so true. I keep my tin with the OOT on my box set shelf, where my most treasured box sets and rare DVD's are kept. (Think the LOTR sets, BTTF trilogy, etc.) The prequels are sorted in the "S" section of my regular DVD library.

Post: #247645
Topic: Official Indiana Jones DVD Release
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247645/action/topic#247645
Time: 24-Sep-2006 1:42 PM

I've never seen the Young Indy chronicles; I was just posting the info. for anyone that wanted it.

Post: #247591
Topic: Hiatus
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247591/action/topic#247591
Time: 24-Sep-2006 12:12 AM

LOL, that's funny. Unless you're telling the truth, though I can't imagine how screwed up you'd have to be to spill your soul out on the internet.

Post: #247510
Topic: Official Indiana Jones DVD Release
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247510/action/topic#247510
Time: 23-Sep-2006 4:51 PM

Found this on Wikipedia.

The DVDs for Chapters 1-22 are expected to be released sometime in 2007, according to a statement by series producer, Rick McCallum of Lucasfilm. The company has already put in two years of work on creating these DVDs, so as to have bonus features for each movie.

McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed. The discs will include some 66 historical featurettes, now in production. Work has been ongoing for about 18 months on the Young Indy DVDs, with about another 18 months worth of work yet to be done. If all goes well, the plan is to tie the DVD release to the theatrical debut of Indy IV.

So it looks like they're putting a lot of effort into the release, which is good. But we won't get it for a while, which I'm fine with, as long as the quality is good.

Of course, it does (sadly...) look like they're putting more effort into this then they did for the trilogy DVD set. The trilogy set was great, but there were lots more bonus features we could have had. I'm perfectly content with just the films though, and Lowry did a great job on the remastering. If only Star Wars looked like that...

Post: #247505
Topic: 2007 Banner Year for DVDs! GO TIGER!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247505/action/topic#247505
Time: 23-Sep-2006 4:34 PM

The Superman 14 disc set looks awesome, and its hitting the states as well. I'm putting that on my Christmas wish list. Check The Digital Bits if you want to know exactly what it includes, but I know it has all 4 Reeve movies, (the 4 disc set of the first movie, 2 disc of the second, and the one disc versions of 3 and 4, and these are the new remastered ones) the Donner cut of 2, and the 2 disc set of Returns, along with three more bonus discs. I'm so excited to see the Donner Cut, and I've never seen the thetrical version of the original movie, so that should be fun to see. Plus, the Superman 2 snap-case release SUCKS!!! The movie looks and sounds awful. Thank god for remastering! The 14 disc set is definately the best, most comprehensive set to have.

Post: #247398
Topic: Official Indiana Jones DVD Release
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247398/action/topic#247398
Time: 23-Sep-2006 1:33 AM

Young Indy DVD IS planned. Look HERE for cover art. I don't know when it's coming out, but a set IS planned.

Post: #247397
Topic: Your first reaction to Hayden is ROTJ
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247397/action/topic#247397
Time: 23-Sep-2006 1:26 AM

Originally posted by: Scruffy
Shaw's is the face behind the mask of Vader. Except for David Prowse, who is actually the face behind the mask, but you know what I mean. Seeing that face restored, happy, approving of his son, in communion with his mentor ... there's a lot of strong feelings there. He has been in a dark place for twenty years, but he's found his way home, and his friends were waiting for him.

Hayden's is the face of pride, resentment, and foolishness. The prequel trilogy spent four hours linking these attributes with that face, prepping us to dislike him. When I look into that face in Jedi, I don't know what he's thinking or feeling. He has no camaraderie with the geriatrics he's hanging out with, that's for sure; he's more like a bad child who avoided a scolding by flashing his puppy-dog eyes at his parents.

To answer your question, I think Ronnie summed it up pretty well: "There he goes again."

Right you are. You can see that, through all the turmoil he went through, Anakin could finally be the man he was meant to be in the end of ROTJ. He achieved old age along with his friends, and was proud of Luke like everyone else. That's why Hayden being there was so stupid. He looks nervous, or like he's a little preocupied, while the other two look proudly at Luke, saying "Thank you" silently. And when Shaw was in that see, you could just see the gratitude and proudness flowing out of him. Not with Hayden. He almost looks like he's laughing at it all.

Post: #247396
Topic: Star Wars in 30 Seconds and Re-Enacted by Bunnies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247396/action/topic#247396
Time: 23-Sep-2006 1:21 AM

I've watched lots of those 30 second bunny films, and I just don't find them funny. They're really stupid, and you can't understand a word that the bunnies are saying. The animation is good and I like some of the sight gags, but even when I watch one the parodies of a movie I know well, I can't understand what the hell is going on.