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- #88119
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- Empire of Dreams - what was your imagined Star Wars story...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/88119/action/topic#88119
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Originally posted by: Rebel11_38
Ben: That's what your Uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals; thought he shouldn't have gotten involved.
Ben: He was a great pilot. I've heard you've become quite a pilot yourself. And he was a good friend. Which reminds me...I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He thought you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn-fool idealistic mission.
Sorry if that's not quiet correct, I was writing it from memory. I typed that up to analyze what would episode III would need to be like in order for to be preserve the OT.
those are the only errors i saw, but also from memory so pretty good (not sure if its mission or crusade)
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Nevermind the fact that Owen never has any disagreement with Anakin that we see in AOTC about being involved in the Clone Wars. Did he even have a choice? He was a Jedi and the war strted around him, what was he supposed to do? Anyway...
yeah...this brings up how Obi-Wan should have met Anakin during the clone wars but whatever...and just cause we dont see it on screen doesnt mean it wont happen...we're not actually gonna see Anaking and Padme 'make their children'
wont quote the next part cause it would be too long.
But like you said, I dont really think Obi-Wan is lying...he's twisting the facts because he doesnt want to be like Luke, about your dad, he was/is the most evil person alive next to the empire...he killed hundreds of jedi so i tossed him in a pit of lava took his saber and am no giving it to you, enjoy!
Basically i agree, unless it appears that Anakin is dead, and Obi-Wan somehow knows otherwise the Skywalker thing gives it away...which i was gonna say eliminates vader from the third movie but not really. What about this, similar to Rebel11_38's idea. Anakin and Obi-Wan fight with Anakin ending in the pit of lava, we all think hes dead as does Obi-Wan. Then the whole scene with Obi-Wan running through a star destroyer going after the emporer and he comes into the room he thinks it is, or even passes through a med ward and he sees vader and then there can be a body that we are mad to believe is Anakins, but maybe we just see his old burnt up clothes and lightsaber...Obi walks up to it all saddened (cue the solemn music) picks up the saber etc. then we hear the unmasked vaders voice...not Hayden's voice but kinda of a raspy version of JEJ, i mean he was tossed in lava, im sure he has some vocal cord damage and its partially going through the voice modulator (maybe the voice says your friend is no more or something like that) Obi-Wan turns around, and see's vader on the other side of the room...mask off like said, camera angle hiding the face from us as the mask is lowered down (after he is masked he stands up and we get to see vader for the first time in his full glory), he's in a much less elaborate dome thing like we see in Empire. This makes it just look like he's just in the med center for the respirator.
maybe they struggle, vader obviously overpowering Obi-Wan and Obi is loosing ground fast (mind you this is during a big space battle outside cause they are on a ship) Obi-Wan knows he cant win, force still on his side though the Star Destroyer gets hit close to where they are...sparks everywhere, dust, equipment falls, Kenobi makes a retreat using this cover...it clears and Vader sees Obi-Wan left and walks out of the room (ala bring me the crew for questioning i want those plans on the Tantive IV, turns and walks out with authority)...in case you didnt pick up on it, Obi-Wan still has Anakin's saber from the pile of burnt clothes and stuff. So end result at this point is, We see vader, Obi-Wan knows who he is, we think Anakin is dead...the whole lava pit still happens.
The whole last name thing works like said, cause now we think Anakin is dead. As far the one student...this is tricky, mainly because if i remember this discussion is just dealing with the third movie and leaving episode I and II intact. Changing one and two we could have other students before anakin and minor references to them could be made, but as it stands Obi-Wan goes from Padawan to Anakin's Master...I guess, and this is kinda strecthing, that if in episode III Anakin is no longer a padawan, obi-wan could take on a new student, but at this point with a war brewing and all that this wouldnt likely happen. Plus who would want to be his student, look at how is previous student turned out
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Oh, and what is the thing about Han/Lando/Chewbacca? Is that part of an idea for the prequels? Sorry, I'm lost.
I dont think this delt directly with your how to make episode III work questioning, but more of ideas of what the PT in general could have been/included.
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One more thing - about Ben saying "he betrayed and murdered your father." could be explained by showing Darth Vader taking credit for the death anakin, for turning him. During that same scene I described even. Obi-Wan is angry because he basically had to kill Anakin. He tries to get to Palpatine, but finds Vader/Anakin instead. Anakin/Vader has kind of gone mad at this time and starts ranting about how he was responsible for Anakin/his death. How he let the evil free that led to his death. I don't know, what do you gusy think?
this would also appear to be the case because it would be vader in the med room with anakins "remains" and his comment/Obi-Wan's reaction could then be taken as you killed my friend...maybe Obi-Wan thinks Anakin is dead, but then hears something that he is alive on this ship, so (since he was reckless in his youth) he takes off and gets on this ship to find him, so its not Palpatine he's looking for but his friend who still wants to save. then he comes across the charred cloths and the lightsaber and we maybe see a random body in the background that we cant identify.
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