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#193273
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Original Trilogy DVD my ideas
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Originally posted by: AMH57
I remember that dreaded day when popping in my star Wars DVD ande finding Han shooting last and Hayden Christenson as the ghost Anakin in ROTJ.

So this is what i think the Original Trilogy DVD should have. I think it should obviously have the original thaetrical releses of Star Wars but say, fix the orange blob under the landspeeder for example. all that should be changed is only quality of the picture and sound (remastered) and fix errors (orange blob and any smudges or scratches) THATS ALL THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED.


I think thats what the X0 project is doing so your in luck
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#191765
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Idea: Fan Edit of ROTJ
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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
To ease all tention and put all this to rest for good:


EPISODE VI
RETURN OF THE JEDI

A final, climactic confrontation in GALACTIC CIVIL WAR looms near. The Empire, desperate to extinguish the ever-spreading flame of rebellion, has hastened its dual construction on the second DEATH STAR.

Recognizing if completed this ultimate weapon would spell certain doom for the Alliance, the Rebellion has organized a preemptive strike against the armored battle station, preparing to go into battle with or without several of their key leaders, who on Tatooine have masterminded the rescue of Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster, Jabba the Hutt.

Having returned to the Dagobah System, Luke Skywalker is facing his final trials to become a Jedi Knight. Luke is eager to complete his training and join his friends in the effort, but has unanswered questions for his dying Jedi Master that could shatter his reality and alter the course of galactic history…

-First scene of Vader arriving on Death Star II as is.
-Wipe to Dagobah. Edit Luke and Yoda's dialogue. Scene as is until:
Luke: But...the training?
Yoda: No more training do you require. Already know you that what you need.
Luke: Then I am a Jedi?
Yoda: Luke, when gone am I, the last of the Jedi you will be. The force runs strong in your family, pass on what you have learned. Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor, or suffer your father's fate you will.
Luke: Master Yoda... is Darth Vader my father?
Yoda: Rest I need, yes, rest.
Luke: Yoda, I must know.
Yoda: Your father he is. Told you did he?
Luke: Yes.
Yoda: Unexpected this is. And unfortunate.
Luke: Unfortunate that I know the truth?
Yoda: No! Unfortunate that you rushed to face him, that incomplete was your training. That not ready for the burden were you.
Luke: I'm sorry.
Yoda: Luke...there is another...Sky...walk...er.
-Luke/Obi-Wan scene as is (for now anyway). Btw, I am aware Luke has his black glove on during these scenes, but the way I see it hardly noticable clothing continuity is a small price to pay for the greater good of the story. It could also be assumed it was for his hand, like Anakin in RotS, and he removed it on Tatooine, only to have it damaged and require a covering yet again.
-Wipe to Emperor arriving on Death Star II. (This transition works really well with Obi-Wan's last line, "...but they could be made to serve the Emperor."
-Wipe to Tatooine with droids approaching Jabba's palace. Story flow as is (there will of course be many asthetic changes to this sequence). Luke's late arrival and the confused plan can be interpreted as him having to finish his training the the Rebels not being able to wait any longer, so they spring a plan to rescue Han and get back to the fleet and plan the attack on the Death Star II.
-It would be really nice to have the deleted sandstorm scene, as it presents at least SOME kind of resolution to the Han/Lando situation that was desperately needed in the film. The radio drama addresses this in a great scene with the two on the Falcon, which of course is impossible to duplicate. And that's another point; not once in RotJ do we see Han flying the Falcon. Shame. Maybe we can do something about that, a rear cockpit view of jumping into hyperspace perhaps?
-Luke would of course just meet the crew "Back at the fleet," already having dealt with his business on Dagobah in between movies and in the opening of this one.
-Wipe to first Throne Room scene on Death Star II. (This transition works really well with Vader's mention of "...a Rebel fleet massing near Sullust?", we then get to see that fleet.)
-Wipe to Rebel Alliance meeting, film continues as is (with appropriate asthetic alterations throughout).

Shuffling the basic story structure of the beginning of RotJ would not only greatly strenghten the film, but also account for the numerous nitpicks presented by its original form. Most importantly in my mind, is Luke actually completing his training on Dagobah with Yoda, and finding out about Anakin. Yes, it is a stretch to believe Luke went for almost a year without mentioning it to Yoda, but it is much more believable than him not even going back in a year, not just to complete his training but to get some answers. I think my new opening crawl does a lot for the story as well. It has been pointed out that the other 5 episodes' crawls all open with important galactic happenings. RotJ? "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine to..." yeah, not so much. If you look at things with an open mind, this version of events deals with most of the issues that were botched or confusing in the original:
-A second Death Star? So fast?
-The rushed plan to get Han, Luke's late arrival. (sort of)
-Desperate to rescue Han before having to get back to the Rebel fleet.
-Luke completing his training and discovering the truth about his father.
-Making the film flow together much better instead of feeling like Episode 6A and Episode 6B.



Here is my altered RotJ script incorporating dialogue from the Radio Drama. The new dialogue being in bold:

Too late. The Wookiee has already pulled the animal from the
stake. SPROOING! The group finds itself hanging upside down in an
Ewok net, suspended high above the clearing. Artoo lets out a
wild series of beeps and whistles, and Chewie howls his regret.
Their bodies are a jumble in the net. Han removes a Wookiee paw
from his mouth.

THREEPIO
One would suppose a 220 year old Wookie to have learned a measure of self-restraint.


HAN
What are you telling them?

THREEPIO
Hello, I think... I could be mistaken.
These creatures seem to call themselves Ewoks. And I do believe they think I am some sort of god.


Suddenly all activity stops as LOGRAY, the tribal Medicine Man,
comes out of the big hut. He examines the captives carefully,
goes to join Threepio, whose throne has been placed on an
elevated platform. A larger, gray-haired Ewok, CHIEF CHIRPA, is
examining Luke's lightsaber with great curiosity.

THREEPIO
As I understand it Master Luke, the forest has been invaded by Stormtroopers. The Ewoks presume you to be enemies.


HAN
What did he say?

THREEPIO
I'm rather embarrassed, General Solo, but it
appears you are to be the main course at a
banquet in my honor.

Shot of ARTOO.

THREEPIO
And you Artoo are to be reclaimed for useable scrap.

Another Shot of Artoo-he is displeased.


At the end of it, the Chief, Logray, and the elders confer, then
nod in agreement. The Chief stands and makes a pronouncement.

LUKE (OS)
What are they saying Threepio?

THREEPIO
The Ewoks want to know where they fit into the story Sir. Myth and life are strongly intertwined with Ewoks. If I make them part of the tale, it will in their minds make them part of the Rebellion”

LUKE (OS)
Do it Threepio.

Threepio says more Ewokese, including them in the story.

That strengthens the Ewoks characterwise I think, giving them reasons for their actions. Also I thought it would be nice to throw that reference to Chewbacca's age in there just for the fun of it.



that would all work really good.
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#191757
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Thanks, guys!

I'm good for an occasional idea, but I don't have any editing skills myself (or time, for that matter).

To be honest, I was thinking of a less dramatic edit to ANH that might still work in the scheme of the Starkiller Ranch edit. Like this:

The attack on the Death Star can still happen, and Luke still makes the shot, but the explosion only disables the Death Star, and part of it survives. (This would of course require new effects on the Death Star explosion scene.) Maybe we can redub General Dodonna so that before the attack he says "A direct hit should cause a chain reaction that disables the station"). Then we still get the end celebration, since the Rebels have saved the day for now.

Now here's a new part I just thought of. Move the ROTJ opening scene over Endor to the beginning of ESB. (I've always felt that the opening for ESB was a little weak.) The Empire has already started repairing the station. This keeps the Death Star in the story, so it doesn't feel so rehashed in ROTJ. To spice things up, see if it's possible to replace Endor with Mustafar in this opening shot.

Vader lands and tells the new Grand Moff that he's there to get the project back on schedule. Cut the mention of the Emperor. Cut to Star Destroyer launching probes. Then use the ESB Special Edition shot of Vader's shuttle approaching the Super Star Destroyer to get to the fleet, so he has time to check out the fleet and then get the report about the rebels on Hoth. Continue with rest of movie as planned.

For ROTJ, start out with a new opening shot, or maybe heavily modify the original opening shot and have the Emperor show up at the beginning. Commander Courage's idea about moving the Dagobah scenes to the beginning work well, so maybe a new opening shot panning down on Dagobah would work.

Regardless, I really hope somebody can use some of these ideas.

Erik
this makes it work in perfrect sense. Man this project is becoming so much like my own personal 'vision' of the saga is crazy. I love it



Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Originally posted by: Darth Richard:
ahh thanks InfoDriod that was really nice


And, did I mention, you've got great taste in avatars?


--InfoDroid

what can i say
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#191398
Topic
FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Originally posted by: Darth Richard
An edit of Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Askaban edit. Have the part when Surius Black breaks into Hogwarts but have it be the deleted scene version not the lame verison that was in the movie. Then I would be happy
Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
What about RENT?

I just watched the film version of RENT. First, let me say I've never seen the show, and the film was my first introduction to it. I loved it.

However - I watched the deleted scenes, and I feel that this could do with a small bit of editing.

Specifically, I think "Goodbye Love" should be reinstated in its entirety, and the original back-to-the-stage ending should be restored. I personally don't think "Halloween" is too necessary, but it's a good song, so if it was added back in, that would be nice as well.

I was just wondering if there's a "market" for this, so to speak, and if there is, if someone with know-how would be willing to give it a shot.

Another possible idea - though i doubt this is feasible - could be to reedit it completely as a rock opera with no dialogue, but the way the film is structured, this is probably impossible.


I was thinking about that, but i thought no one here would like RENT. Thats an edit i would love to see and have I Should tell you be after La Via Bohemn B instead of in the middle cuz it ruins the pacing.


No, I don't think ISTY should be moved - in the commentary, Columbus reveals that the original show had it that way and it didn't work near as well, so they moved it just before it opened on Broadway and it's been there since 1996.


Well if the broadway team thought it won't work them i'll believe them. LOL i'm listeneing to RENT right now. Its cool have a fellow RENT fan here
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#191391
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
We're thinking of jumping right to ROTJ after Episode I. What does everyone think?


And Darth Richard has to be the nicest person on this entire board. Always positive. Never negative. That's a good way to be.


--InfoDroid


ahh thanks InfoDriod that was really nice
The idea of switching Death Star footage is a great idea. Not sure if it would work 100% but its worth a try.
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#191038
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
For an in-depth answer you can go back and read the older posts, but Trooperman feels that for the good of the character and story Anakin needs a new voice. Lama Su and the Jedi Analysis Droid are being dubbed for plot purposes.


does that mean he'll re dub Anakin for episode 3 in the Ranch edit because this edit goes with the ranch right
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#190995
Topic
FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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An edit of Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Askaban edit. Have the part when Surius Black breaks into Hogwarts but have it be the deleted scene version not the lame verison that was in the movie. Then I would be happy
Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
What about RENT?

I just watched the film version of RENT. First, let me say I've never seen the show, and the film was my first introduction to it. I loved it.

However - I watched the deleted scenes, and I feel that this could do with a small bit of editing.

Specifically, I think "Goodbye Love" should be reinstated in its entirety, and the original back-to-the-stage ending should be restored. I personally don't think "Halloween" is too necessary, but it's a good song, so if it was added back in, that would be nice as well.

I was just wondering if there's a "market" for this, so to speak, and if there is, if someone with know-how would be willing to give it a shot.

Another possible idea - though i doubt this is feasible - could be to reedit it completely as a rock opera with no dialogue, but the way the film is structured, this is probably impossible.


I was thinking about that, but i thought no one here would like RENT. Thats an edit i would love to see and have I Should tell you be after La Via Bohemn B instead of in the middle cuz it ruins the pacing.
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#190978
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
The early rebellion scenes are good material, and with a few cuts here and there they'd definitely be a good addition to Episode III.

As for RotJ, we're way ahead of the game in that department, as most of the changes suggested in these new theads have already been covered in this one.


Cool. I can't wait till this project is done ever time new info is posted about it, it makes me want to it more
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#190387
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Star Wars Logos?
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Originally posted by: BigBlueRig
Originally posted by: Rhett Thanas
Thanks so much for the friendly and very useful help everyone has provided!

This is an incredible community and I thank you all for your help!

If you're curious to see what I was making you can see the near-final version on my Flickr page.


Pretty cool.

I wish my college/s had cool stuff like that.

San Diego City College & Southwestern College = LAME


your a san diego person. So am I. do you go to Palomar or Mesa city college?
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#189746
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Idea: Fan Edit of ROTJ
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Erik, you have it right. I guess I was saying that it didn't present itself very well on film. There was a whole series of shots of the rebels sneaking down a few corridors to the shield control room and fighting their way through stormtroopers. Losing this sub-plot distorted the real size of the bunker.


GL really need to release all those damn deleted scenes. well i think a good Revenge of the Jedi edit would rock cuz (although ROTJ is one of my fav.'s) its kinda like the TPM of the OT.