Darth Neo

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Post: #272993
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272993/action/topic#272993
Time: 21-Feb-2007 12:39 AM

Hi Murch,

Thanks for your offer. I'm very interested.............

I also have some never before published images from empire that I will be including on the website so it's exactly what I'm looking for.

You can perhaps wait to see my site first to know where it's going, or you can reach me now at: starwars AT liquidcourage DOT nl

Thankx,

Darth Neo

http://www.esthervanlieshout.nl/starwars/Kurtz007.jpg

Post: #272889
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272889/action/topic#272889
Time: 20-Feb-2007 2:03 PM

I've an old timeline around here somewhere (it's about 8 pages long) with important dates and such. I can send it your way of you'd like it.

Yes of course, TIA.........

The email for the website works already so you can reach me at starwars AT liquidcourage DOT nl

Darth Neo

Post: #272880
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272880/action/topic#272880
Time: 20-Feb-2007 1:17 PM

or more specifically - bootlegs of 'SP/FX' dressed up to sound like this rarity start showing up on ebay.

I can only hope people will not abuse the needs of others in this way. I have been ripped off a few times before on ebay and it's not something I wish on anybody. As for the emails: I am prepared. I have opened a special adress for this site and I hope I get a lot of emails. I will place a special request for special and rare images that people can send me if they want to which I will place on the website. I want it to become a collection of all the rare and unusual stuff related to Star Wars. I will also include stuff on the website that's very hard to come by (expect classic vintage magazine scans of that era).

As for the John Williams photo that I was talking about, here it is. If anyone knows When / What or Where, I would love to know.

Cheers,

Darth Neo

http://www.esthervanlieshout.nl/starwars/RR022836.jpg

Post: #272858
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272858/action/topic#272858
Time: 20-Feb-2007 9:01 AM

Thanks for your quick replies guyz. The timeline for my site runs from 1976 to 2010 (1976 being the pre-star wars segment). The awards suggestion is great. I was thinking about concerts John Williams gave at some point. Perhaps someone knows more about that? I have a picture of a concert of Johnny with some ewoks on stage????

I can upoload the picture tonight.

Thanks for your help.

Darth Neo

Post: #272856
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272856/action/topic#272856
Time: 20-Feb-2007 8:40 AM

Thanks JD for your quick response.

Post: #272849
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272849/action/topic#272849
Time: 20-Feb-2007 7:53 AM

Hi guyz,

I have been working all weekend on the website. The framework (Flash) is ready, the menu system (Flash) has been made and I'm photoshopping the backgrounds. And tonight I will be adding the first content. Expect some special surprises. A lot of content will be added later but the first release will include clips from the Empire Strikes Back special.

The progress now is somewhat slower because I have to work, but I expect the launch of the website this weekend.

As for copies of the program: I'm concentrating on the website for now, so I haven't thought about it..........

Keeping you posted.

Greetz,

Darth Neo

p.s. Some help please: Any suggestions for the missing years in the following list. I need a significant Star Wars Release or Event for every year. Anything that I can link some special content to. TIA

1976 Comic Con
1977 Episode IV: A New Hope: May 25, 1977
1978 The Star Wars Holiday Special: November 17, 1978
1979
1980 Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back: May 21, 1980
1981 Star Wars Radio Broadcast
1982 'The Empire Strikes Back,' for Atari and Intellivision.
1983 Episode VI: Return of the Jedi: May 25, 1983
The Empire Strikes Back Radio Broadcast
Rebel Mission to Ord Mantel
1984 Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure: November 25, 1984
1985 Ewoks: The Battle for Endor: November 24, 1985
Droids: The Adventures of R2-D2 and C-3PO: September 7, 1985 – June 7, 1986
Ewoks: September 7, 1985
1986
1987 Star Tours: January 9, 1987
1988
1989
1990
1991 Heir to the Empire
1992
1993
1994
1995 Power of the Force 2
1996 Return of the Jedi Radio Broadcast
1997 star wars: the special editions
1998 Star Wars Dark Forces
1999 Episode I: The Phantom Menace: May 19, 1999
2000
2001
2002 Episode II: Attack of the Clones: May 16, 2002
2003 Clone Wars: November 7, 2003
2004
2005 Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: May 19, 2005
2006
2007 Star Wars 30th anniversary
2008
2009 Star Wars Clone Wars 3D
2010 Star Wars The live action tv series

Post: #272839
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272839/action/topic#272839
Time: 20-Feb-2007 6:41 AM

Gary Kurtz and George Lucas had creative differences over Return of the Jedi. Gary felt that Return was to much of a rehash of a new hope with the Death Star and all. Mr Kurtz went on to do The Dark Crystal instead. After that Gary was persona non grata at Lucasfilm.........

Post: #272652
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272652/action/topic#272652
Time: 19-Feb-2007 7:54 AM

If the Mr. Sansweet quote is true, then I would be more than happy to provide Lucasfilm with a good quality copy of the program in exchange for a personalised autograph from the flannelled one himself

Post: #272084
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272084/action/topic#272084
Time: 15-Feb-2007 1:50 PM

Hi Guyz,

looking with great interest at the developments on this tread. I have thought about it for 2 days now and can promise you this: if you guys find another copy of this which proves it was released/shown in some form, and if my copy's quality is better, I will create a fan copy of my tape.
The reason for this is: I made this promise in the understanding that it was a special that was never released in any form. If that proves to be untrue or when a lower quality version of this program is already out there I see no reason to hold out on this one. I will just not be the guy that brings this out there and break my initial promise.

I am, however, hyped to speed up things with my website and will work on it non stop this weekend. I will release the website sooner than intended and leave a lot of the other stuff that I was planning out. This will all be added at a later time as updates. How's that.....

I have selected a few clips from the program for the website that will be shown in the flv format that I think are special. Here's one of them.

special clip 2: the making of the empire strikes back

See you guyz later,

Darth Neo

Post: #271735
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271735/action/topic#271735
Time: 14-Feb-2007 8:43 AM

I have seen a lot of the latest entries and I must say I'm a bit disappointed. I used to participate on forums a lot, but it has always amazed me how people misinterpret someone’s intentions and how even the smallest positive things can turn into something negative. As I have explained myself why I started this tread, I feel the need to explain myself further. I'm sure that there will be things that I say now that pisses people off again but that will be on yourself.

To know or not to know

I have seen a lot of things that will never be released to the public in the knowledge that I would probably never see it again. It has killed me to know these things but I cherish these memories. I have written down everything that I have seen to remember it (example: Gary Kutrz's personal photo collection), and in some cases have obtained these things at a later date. I myself would rather know than not know about these things because it (in part) drives my star wars obsession to collect. As long as there are things to obtain out there (vintage original trilogy stuff in my case), there is a drive to my obsession.
That there are people who would rather not know is understandable, but I have acted out of my own feelings.

Why ask for information, he has the damn thing

I have never come across information about this documentary on the internet or otherwise. I know it comes from the private collection of Gary Kurtz (and has probably lain on his shelf for 27 years). Because I am making a website about rare items (video, images and such), I would like to provide more information about this documentary (what's the point in just showing pictures if you can't tell about it in depth). Why was it made and never made public (or perhaps aired just the one time). I have always been amazed by what information people can unearth. A good source for me has been the Yahoo group Star Wars Aficionado (have seen you there too Jambe Davdar

).
Because of that in depth information out there I thought that there might be people who might not have the documentary, but might know something about it.
I am certainly glad that I posted this tread because I get bit and pieces here and there and know more than I did before.
It seems this is a French production because a search for "sygma television" brings up al kinds of French links to a French television station. This seems to correspond with the notion that Michel Pardot worked for French Television in the eighties.

The Dangling carrot

It has not been my intention to dangle a carrot in front of you. Nor be selfish and say LOOK AT ME.
I understand that people would like to see this thing. I can compare this to the beginning of the internet when I would look at sites like "Star Wars: as seen on TV". It had full descriptions and screenshots of shows I had never seen living in the Netherlands. I would get this craving for these shows some of which to this day I have not seen.
This guy had all these shows on video and wasn't going to share with others unless you had something in return. He even had a special wish list on the site for it ( http://www.lucasfan.com/swtv/ ). Was he holding a carrot too???
And what about Warwick Davis and his "Return of the Ewok". He has been showing this on conventions, but apart from the snippets from the official site and the cam version, there hasn't been a full release (legal, or otherwise???)

Why show screenshots

I was going to do that anyway on the website. My intention for the website is to show everyone about this show to share to knowledge and in the hopes to get an official release in the future. I also knew that a lot of people would start responding by saying I was talking about SPFX: empire. I order to illustrate what I was talking about I felt I needed to show you through some screenshots in order to avoid unnecessary responses.

Don't kill the messenger

Enthusiasm I can understand, some of the entries that I have read here I cannot. It will not help me in my conviction to share if people get angry or give demanding messages. I have been very clear about this and I'm not happy with some of the responses people have given me. I'm almost regretful that I posted this in the first place if it wasn't for some very positive and understanding posts:

Sorry but the whole "permission" thing is BS. Clearly he doesn't care about it or else he wouldn't be posting pictures, clips and creating a website about it.

I just think it's kinda crappy to post pics, clips and whatknot on a website all the while claiming that you're not supposed to have a copy.

Hell, there are things I have that I promised not to ever distribute and I don't. I don't brag about having them on the net either. It's just bad form.

The whole point about drug addicts and alleyways (deleted stuff)

The Promise

I don't know about the rest of you but I have never broken a promise. The promise was given in the knowledge that this program was something special (and had never been made public) and for legal reasons could not be distributed. I got it several years ago from someone who got a direct copy from Gary Kurtz. Now I have also met Gary Kurtz a couple of times a find him to be a soft-spoken, giving person. The person I got the copy from is not someone who is in my life on a regular basis (He himself shows and tells other people about it so I’m not breaking any promises there). That said I have two options:
I can get in touch with this person and ask permission for a fan copy or I can get in touch with Gary Kurtz and tell him about the fan preservations and ask him for permission since he is the direct owner of this thing. I will do my best to get permission since I feel that if you guyz find another tape from back in the eighties it will not be of the same quality as this copy.
When and if I get permission to make a fan copy it is my intention to do it myself through the upcoming website, so you'll have to bear with me. My first concern however is the release of the website. There is one credo that I remember when collecting and has worked for me so far: All good things come to those who wait….(no pun intended)

For the Future

I will continue setting up the website with or without extra information. There are some people here that have a very reasonable responses (Laserman, Jambe Davdar ), and I would like to continue communicating with these people. Perhaps through hotmail or something…

The website will get launched in a few weeks and you can expect more screenshots and more clips and in the future a full transcript (when I get to it) from the program.

If permission is given I will make a fan-preservation DVD of the program.

I'm sure I've said something wrong somewhere in here, if so it's not intended to upset anyone. If someone doesn't agree with this or is angry about this than that's too bad………...

Greetz,

Darth Neo

O, one more thing:

Is this the one that has the outtake of Obi Wan's ghost trying to wake up an 'unconscious' Luke in the snow?

No, there’s no such scene here, sorry……………..

Post: #271539
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271539/action/topic#271539
Time: 13-Feb-2007 3:20 PM

Hi jambedavdar,

Quick research I must say. Yes I have "Building Empire". I am downloading "Returning to Jedi" as we speak. I am looking forward to it.
I am also always on the lookout for special stuff.

I have uploaded a small clip from the program on the Sci-Fi VS Fairy Tales stuff. Hope you like it.

Special Clip: the making of the empire strikes back

Going to bed now

(the Netherlands). Thanks for your input.

Greetz,

Darth Neo

p.s. I also have "the making of the ewok adventure" made by Warwick Davis and Eric Walker on set of The Caravan of Courage. More on that on the website. Keeping you posted.......

Post: #271531
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271531/action/topic#271531
Time: 13-Feb-2007 2:36 PM

Yes, in the first few minutes or so Irvin Kershner makes a whole point about star wars not being a science fiction film but a fairy tale. The point being that in science fiction you can't just go to a planet. You could have a different atmosphere different grafity. In a faity tale you don't have to deal with that. You just have to believe....

I'll try to get a short clip up from that part.

All the rest is for my website :-)

Just one thing puzzles me. If it has aired before, how come there is almost no one out there that knows it or has any definitive information about it?

Greetz,

Darth Neo

Post: #271523
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271523/action/topic#271523
Time: 13-Feb-2007 1:52 PM

Hi 20th Century Mark,

it appears you are right

This is driving me crazy. I remember a specific scene showing how they filmed the first AT-AT being taken down using a four foot model. I don't remember seeing that in SPFX.

I have checked the program and there is a section about the fall of the first AT-AT.

Here are some more screenshots including that specific section. If anyone knows more on whether it actually aired, I would love to know (also would have less problems with it being shared).

Greetz,

Darth Neo

Post: #271493
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271493/action/topic#271493
Time: 13-Feb-2007 10:26 AM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0344288/combined

As stated: this is NOT SPFX: the empire strikes back.
SPFX: the empire strikes back was

Directed by
Robert Guenette

This documentary was directed by Michel Parbot, who also was the cameraman. Look at the last screenshots I uploaded.

Cheers....

Post: #271489
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271489/action/topic#271489
Time: 13-Feb-2007 10:08 AM

This is a copy from my personal DVD for use on my PSP. So the original DVD screen is much bigger (it also has much more noise). Haven't done any work on it so this is how the VHS copy looks.

The program runs for 0:56:09 minutes... This comes directly from the personal archive of Gary Kurtz so it never aired anywhere, and was never made public.

As of this point I'm only looking for more information for the website about this program. The thing is that I only received a copy of it because I promised not to make a public copy of it. The reasons behind this I do not know, but I guess it's about rights and legal stuff.

I did not however promise not to tell people about it so that's why I'm making this website. I also have been showing it to people on conventions and such. The only thing I can do is ask the person who gave this to me permission to make a fancopy, but my main concern now is to make this website.

I'm only looking for more info on this for the website, because I reckon there are much more knowledgable people out there than me. The website will not be just about this program, but also on all the other rare gems and photographs that are out there. Any help is very much appreciated.

Post: #271443
Topic: Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271443/action/topic#271443
Time: 13-Feb-2007 6:15 AM — Edited 25-Aug-2020 8:15 PM

I am wondering if anyone has ever heard about another making of documentary about the empire strikes back. I have never come across any information about this program on the internet. As far as I know it was never released in any form.

The program was called “the making of the empire strikes back” and was made by Michel Parbot who also made SFPX: the empire strikes back. The only original copy that I know of resides in the private collection of Gary Kurtz. I own a third generation copy of this copy on video and I have tranferred it to DVD. At this time I am preparing a website about this program so I am looking for any information that I can get on this rare gem.

The program itself contains a lot of footage that I have never seen anywhere else. There are interviews with the cast in their costumes and it has a different emphasis than the SPFX program. This is much more about the shooting itself, a lot of finse stuff and a lot of Elstree Studio stuff. Any help is much appreciated.

As a taster to the website, a few screenshots from the program: