Darth Muffy

My professional steelbook cover of ROS: Ascendant is ready 😋

Hal 9000 said:

I will leave the Chewie-Hux scene in, for at least a first workprint, to see whether it feels right. Which may or may not be encoding right now.

Best choice to TRY and leave as much of what works in as possible, then trim away what doesn’t fit 👍
Getting workprint at the mo so looking forward to see (and hear) things in motion.

Movies Remastered said:

I hated The Medallion but I couldn’t find a way of taking it out without it seeming like they just flew on board with no resistance.

Hal, how did you manage to get rid of Wickets sound at the end of the movie?

That Medallion scene was very (mc)clunky but your right without it they board without resistance and best left in for that reason.

Hal 9000 said:

Okay, finally was able to listen with earphones. I agree, it’s awfully noisy. I truly hate not to include a clip from everyone who submitted something, but maybe it’d be better to actually hear what people are saying… That initial mockup had some chatter and calling in, with some boosted to be audible and others less so, but there wasn’t as much sheer content then. Maybe going back to having fewer clips, selecting those that sound the best and making sure to include the ones from people who have contributed to this project the most regardless.

Collaboration Clip

EDIT: https://vimeo.com/428168141

Oh man that clip gets me every time I watch it, it really brings home the collaboration effort for this film. I’m inclined to agree with Hals reasoning with the audio balance listening with my 5.1 home theatre setup voices are best when balanced Hals way. But we get to hear the clip in full glory in the commentry track as Hals mentioned so alls good.

Also Endor is now where the DS2 crash site is, very intriguing stuff 😃👍

poppasketti said:

Here’s an alt for the end celebration including Coruscant in place of Endor!

Coruscant End Celebration
pw: fanedit

The incredible backplate was made by jonh, and I comped in the ships and added a bit of texture.

Thats perfect and also clears up confusion for more casual viewers mistaking Hosnian Prime which blown up as Coruscant.

jonh said:

latest and final version! corrected yoda height, luke’s hair in the last shot improved, and two more details improved … this is the final! hahahha, thank you very much!
BLUE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KZju5TYhqExWXN13T6Krqs-ZS9UL1cL9/view?usp=sharing
PURPLE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tSe7mW6WXpG4uTlyqsND-k2CBh6M4_NI/view?usp=sharing

there will be no more changes! I’m sorry, friends! 😉

Okay I’m really behind Leias purple sabre change seeing it in action right there in an otherwise sea of blue lights, Truly amazing stuff. Well done jonh 😏👌

jonh said:

A friend has told me that the proportion of yoda in the general shots is wrong, fucking shit, and now I can not stop seeing it too high, what annoyance, I will try to do an update in a few days 😓😓😓

It bothers me, because I have made you all download a thousand versions

👏👏👏 Well done jonh for making that, and looking at that clip with fresh eyes I can’t see any issues with Yoda or any other issue, seems you even fixed the long pause in the original when Rey catches the sabre to when she gives her line. Perfect work nice one.

This is a brilliant idea, Thanks for making.

Movies Remastered said:

Darth Muffy said:

So this video clip is a must for the final edit, Right?

FYI, Jonh has done a few updates to the scene done this upload. It looks even more awesome now.

Cool, Do you have the link to Jonhs updated version,Oh and Hal 😋

For I to V… cough Spleen 😉

StarkillerAG said:

You clearly haven’t been here in a while. It was actually one of our own users, Jonh, who created that. It was done specifically for Hal’s edit, so I don’t think Hal’s suddenly going to change his mind.

Good to hear, and yeah been a little while just catching up now.

So this video clip is a must for the final edit, Right?

Good news on V2 Andreas (more familiar with you from fanedit.org 😄)
Your edit is still my go to for Episode I, reguarding changes for v2 my original review on fanedit hits most points I had…

"When it comes to watching Episode I I’ve personally avoided watching it for so long I barely remember the film and as such also avoided the many fanedits over the years for fears of bring back those bad memories. As its been so long I finally gave in and watched Andreas edit and I’m glad I did.

What drew me to this edit was the reimagining of the narrative and using other source material to expand on much needed character development while omitting offensive scenes throughout some examples SPOILERS like expanding on the trade federations backstory to strengthen their motives, allowing the villains more screen time to give a sense of peril and also better introducing Dookus character to the storyline and reintroducing Jar-Jars as a member of the Jedis original crew sent from corusent. Is this film perfect? no. can the few issues be fixed? yes, quite easily.

The main issues are really only technical ones like Mauls sabre changing orange in some scenes, although you get the narrotive point better with Dookus hologram throughout it still looks out of place in some scenes eg Jedi council scene @ 00:56:23 and some clunky subtitles one example of this is during the original films opening scenes on the trade federations ship which is now shown later in the film when Qui-Gons using his sabre to melt the bridges blast doors these are the new lines:

Nute Gunray: “close the blast doors… Were you born stupid?”
Rune: “this guy just wont give up!”
Nute Gunray: “shut up, your encouraging him” – encouraging? Should read something more like "shut up, stop & admiring them!

Also something out of place is the heavy metal rift first heard at Tattooine when entering Mos Espa and the Maul scenes which brings you out of the Starwars film. Lastly Qui-Gons close up death scene @ 01:27:56 repeats itself but not sure if its intentional though.

Overall a very good edit from Andreas and a definite improvement over the theatrical, looking forward to the improvements version 2 of the Ancient Lore will bring."

That shuttle shot is very well done and was something I thought needed tweaking when watching first time as Ties don’t actually land ever in starwars. Whole thread about Ties landing with some convincing theories why they don’t…
https://boards.theforce.net/threads/are-tie-fighters-equipped-with-landing-feet.11111574/

Also I’m all for naming Mustafar in the crawl helps ground where we are and its something that should of been in from the start.

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

Back to the gamę? 😀

Yep! 😃

Hi smudger, good to see your still about any change you may ever go back to making any more of your quality The Clone Wars edits now theres been a bit of time away from them?

Hal 9000 said:

I don’t think that I’ll revisit TFA and TLJ after this (and fixing a video glitch in TFA:R V4), even if you all keep coming up with cool stuff. I have revisited them once each following TROS to tie into it in appropriate ways, so I think this will be it for those two.

Thanks Hal so glad to hear this I feel that both edits are at there best now, Do what Lucas could not by not revisiting whats already been done 😉👍

Hal 9000 said:

Nah.

cool no biggie either way fella 😀👍

Hi Hal,
Would it be possible to cut down Finns over the top moment down when he’s escaping in the Tiefighter with Poe and shoots the turret… “did you see that, DID YOU SEE THAT!”… unfortunately we did 😬

Also maybe consider dropping the Han shoots behind at Mas castle battle without looking scene, I know its referenced somewhat in ROS but does it need to be here still and will it still be about in a future edit of ROS 🤔

But hope ultimatley you edit stays intact as is for v5 😉🤞

RogueLeader said:

Just wanted to lay out a few of the options I’ve heard floating around regarding Rey’s story in the movie, as well as share some bigger thoughts regarding Ascendent.

So, these are some of alternative reveal options I’ve heard so far:

1. Rey Palpatine (Original)
2. Rey Nobody, Palpatine saw her future and ordered to have her killed/taken.
3. Not Palpatine’s biological grandchild, but created her through the dark side, like an anti-Chosen One.
4. Rey Nobody, but she killed her parents. (Remove connection with Ochi).
5. Rey Nobody, but Kylo killed her parents.
6. Rey Nobody, and the main conflict deals with destiny and visions of her future.

I like option 3. Not Palpatine’s biological grandchild, but created her through the dark side.

As this mirrors the belief I have for what the “chosen ones” are initially for, created by Plagus/Palpatine for over many lifetimes to serve as a vessal for him to transfer his spirit essense when the times right. This also connects the previous movies using the same logic, Anakin, Rey & countless other “chosen ones” is how Plagus has been kept alive… “I Am ALL SITH!”

Now Palpatines confirmed to be a clone and also explained is the decaying snoke appearance in TFA & TLJ as not being able to hold his powerful force spirit for long hence the tanks of other incubated snoke bodies.

This would explain all his talk in RTJ about strike me down with all of your hatred as doing so would let Palpatine take over whoever does kill him while angered with his dark force spirit akin to 1998s film Fallen. Going further would it be right in thinking Palpatine always had this ability “which some consider to be unnatural” and that Darth plagueis and Palpatine are one in the same. This would explain the statues in snokes throne room and the relationship with those attendence aliens from the unknown region also in snokes throneroom in TLJ as well as Exegol cultists. How this may shape into an edit of ROS erm… I’m still thinking over 🤔

Possibly emphasize that the cultists on Exegol are the key reason that the emperors spirit was able to reinbody itself and without those cultists hes not coming back.

Hal 9000 said:

There are evidently a few spots that couldn’t be perfect. The reason is because somehow I pulled a boner and lost the original recording, forcing me to carefully resync the old track as best I could.

Also, “pull a boner” should come back into the vernacular.

I see, would’nt worry thats nothing compared to the boner that disney pulled when attempting to make a coherent sequal trilogy 😄

Very interesting listening to Hals commentary track for TLJ and Hal describing Snoke as habitually an emperor clone which was recorded before any ROS revelations.

Unlike TFA v3 commentary used for TFA v4 which synces fine TLJ commentary track recorded for v2 does have syncing issues with v3 in snoke throne room battle onwards also no sound for a few minutes in places. All the same rather have this unsynced commentary track then nothing.

smpearce1981 said:

I was thinking about the ‘3 lessons’ thing:

It’s actually ok that it’s left at 2 lessons on account of the breakdown in the relationship between Rey and Luke.

It’s not necessarily a continuity error, she just elects to leave to face/redeem Kylo before Luke got the opportunity to deliver the third lesson.

Neither Luke or Rey were expecting Rey to be in active communication with Kylo and the developments and revelations that arose as a result changed the landscape of their relationship and so the plan simply changed?

I know thats not what was originally planned hence the existence of the deleted scene, but it still works…’from a certain point of view’ ? 😃

Those valid points are how I do view the current version of TLJ and it works very well for how that versions story is told.

stevepaynter said:

With the incredible editing Poppa has been doing with other scenes recently he could probably fix those issues in the 3rd lesson deleted scene 😜.

It would be great to see that under an altenative version of TLJ edit with light use of caretakes akin to return of the jedis yub hub/special edition ending versions about. I also understand that its hard work doing these edits and the idea of an alternative version of the same edit must be off putting to make.

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, just resynced it to match the length. I must have recorded a little segment somewhere specifically for V3.

I see, just finished listening to it I find these tracks very insightful v3 is ref quite a bit thoughtout parts but its not an issue, also great that it was recorded prior to the events of Rise of Skywalker as you hear your hopes along the way before what we know now about the story. Last part is the best just before the credits roll stating that maybe episode IX theatrically might not even need a fanedit when out. 😋

I like what ROS offered but I’m liking more the idea of listening to another commentary track on how episode IX story was tightened and fixed by the fan community in the near future. I’m off to listen to your TLJ commentary track now 😀👍

Thanks Hal

Hi,
Listening to Hals commentary track on V4 edit but Hal states V3 as the films version within the track. I take it Hals reused the commentary track found in v3 ?

smpearce1981 said:

Darth Muffy said:

Hi poppasketti,

While Hals Legendary edit has always been my go to for TLJ myself and a few others have been keep to see the third lession scene reinserted back in.
This will also mean having the caretakes back in the background to a degee but the lession conveys so well to Rey and us the audiense that Jedi of old would rather meditate over “their” force then get involved in other peoples problems. This strengthens beliefs as to why Luke is in isolation and his reasoning as to let the Jedi of old end.

Lukes 3rd Lession Clip

Hals stated he does’nt have any interest in an alternate version of TLJ Legenday with this scene and caretakers but would this be something you’d entertain?

Hey, Bud

Not to speak for anyone else but I think the decision across multiple edits is that the amount of work required to complete the abandoned VFX on this sequence in order for it not to seem thrown in or bolted on as an after thought is too much for many editors to justify the time/trouble?

I could be very wrong, and it’s certainly not my place to pass comment but that’s just what I’ve gleaned from similar questions being asked previously?

I am curious though and just as a means of having a conversation, what is it that you prefer about HAL’s TLJ? Not that there’s anything wrong with that view! (I really am just being curious?)

Hal’s TFA: Restructured is my go to cut of TFA

I really think Hal fully unlocked the magic within that movie.

However, Poppa win’s it for me with his TLJ Rekindled. I know his project started on the foundation of Hal’s Legendary, but I really feel he’s found his rhythm with this project now and it’s really starting to take on a life of it’s own to the same extent as Hal’s TFA and hence I don’t think I could go back to the original cut now.

Hi smpearce1981,
In answer to your question personally Hals Legendary v3 edit ticks all the boxes for what I want when watching TLJ albeat the as stated unusable 3rd lesson scene (can see my prefered versions below). I’m not knocking poppaskettis version in any way but I’m happy with what Hal offers with v3 having also intergrated some of poppasketti changes found here also I like Hals method of being less is more and leaving what he can untouched and only editing magor issues. I’m actually rewatching TFA Restructured V4 again at this moment but with Hals commentary 😋.

I have a question though this is going to be obvious once pointed out to me but what is actually unfinished in the 3rd lession deleted scene as I dont see any wires, placeholder vfx or green backdrops in the scene which makes it unusable in an edit? 🤔

Hi poppasketti,

While Hals Legendary edit has always been my go to for TLJ myself and a few others have been keep to see the third lession scene reinserted back in.
This will also mean having the caretakes back in the background to a degee but the lession conveys so well to Rey and us the audiense that Jedi of old would rather meditate over “their” force then get involved in other peoples problems. This strengthens beliefs as to why Luke is in isolation and his reasoning as to let the Jedi of old end.

Lukes 3rd Lession Clip

Hals stated he does’nt have any interest in an alternate version of TLJ Legenday with this scene and caretakers but would this be something you’d entertain?