Darth Lucas

Sounds good 😃 looking forward to it

Finnius said:

TV’s Frink said:

I can cater the event.

…please don’t make the wookie-ookies again…you remember the last time… (shudder)

It’s all good. He just needs to get down the “stir, whip” pattern.

Yeah but the extended version isn’t supposed to be like a super polished version of the film anyways. It’s supposed to be a very rough edited together version for the purpose of seeing the deleted scenes in context.

Like I said, I’ll see how it works and I may very well end up using the SE version.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

I WISH I COULD JUST WISH MY FEELINGS AWAY

I wish that I could just wish away my erection, Padme, but I cant.

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:
But she could at least get acting lessons.

If anyone needs it it’s Carrie Fisher, but I quite liked most of Daisy’s performance. Though there is always room for improvement.

Daisy Ridley’s performance was better in this film than Mark Hammil’s was in Star Wars to me.

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

You really have some peculiar complaints.

Just to be sure: are you supposed to be some kind of moderator or something like that around ?

Relevance?

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/906929

You think this is aggressive? Lol.

Use your aggressive feelings Frink and take your father’s place at my side!

towne32 said:

Darth Lucas said:

I’m looking forward to it 😃

Well, I’m glad you’re using my final version so that I can watch your version without thinking “gah, but I updated that!”. 😃

Are you going to release comparison shots of the color that you changed from my version? Or just leave it for people to find? Maybe you can PM me the details if it’s the latter.

In your myspleen description, feel free to explain the difference between the 81 and 97 crawl and therefore between our two versions. Most people are probably unaware. I certainly was until a few months ago.

I’ll probably just leave it for people to find :p unless there’s a lot of people who want comparisons.
But I can PM you some shots if you’d like.

Dek Rollins said:

Darth Lucas said:

And with that, the “secret release”, a “workprint extended edition” of the film, splicing deleted scenes into the silver screen edition, will be moved to the bonus material disc 4.

I have a question about this, Darth. Is the extended cut going to include the SE Jabba, and if so, which version is going to be used for that? Also, I assume that the deleted scene of Luke and Biggs reuniting is going to be the one included on the BD bonus features rather than the SE version. I’m just curious about this stuff.

All of the deleted scenes will be the one included in the bonus disc.
As for the Jabba scene, I’m going to try and use the one from Star Wars Begins and see if it works. It supposed to be a workprint after all so the roughness won’t matter too much. But if I ultimately decide against the Star Wars Begins recreation, I’ll use a color corrected 2004 version.

towne32 said:

DLucas: If you want it mainly to grab the color for your encode, get the BD since the bitrate is higher. 😃

Well I’m going to have to end up lowering the bitrate slightly anyways to make sure two full copies of the film can fit on a BD50, so that’s not such a big deal. Plus having the whole movie on one track (instead of the crawl separate) will make it easier to get all of my corrections frame-accurate and synched up.

An MKV would certainly be appreciated at least on my end 😃 I’m interested in checking out the your BD for the seamless branching alone, but an MKV is definitely easier to work with :p

Not just that. It’s done it EVERY TIME I’ve even attempted to just go on the spleen to browse the torrents. Something’s been up with their server the past couple weeks. Very aggravating.

I’m looking forward to it 😃

I actually will be waiting for your next version since I’m having trouble anyways haha.

No I didn’t. That is exactly what I missed. Thank you haha.

Well now it’s saying “upload failed”. Though I’m not sure if it’s because of how the site has been acting lately or if it was something wrong I did in creating the torrent. This is actually the first torrent I’ve created and attempted to post so that is a real possibility. Is there anything weird or specific that must be done to a torrent to make it acceptable by myspleen?

towne32 said:

stretch009 said:

The Spleen:

“The server load is very high at the moment. Retrying, please wait…”

That’s all I’m getting and it’s getting old.

It does this almost every time now, and for the last two weeks.

I’ve been trying to upload all day and I get this every single time. It’s getting extremely old. Oh well, onto attempt #1,138

Not to hijack the thread, but for those who are interested, today I will be muxing an mkv of the 1981 version of the film to post on the spleen. In case you want that version, but not necessarily the whole BD disc I’m authoring with all the bells and whistles.

It is as most of you know based on Towne32’s regrade as a base with a few select scenes and sequences regraded by me and my 1981 crawl/flyover spliced into the beginning.

For those who are interested, today I will be muxing an mkv of my 1981 version of despecialized to post on the spleen. In case you want that version, but not necessarily the whole BD disc I’m authoring with all the bells and whistles.

It is based on Towne32’s regrade as a base with a few select scenes and sequences regraded by me and a recreated 1981 crawl/flyover spliced into the beginning. This recreated crawl and flyover is not perfect, but for general viewing purposes it works fairly well.

For those who are interested, today I will be muxing an mkv of the 1981 version of the film to post on the spleen. In case you want that version, but not necessarily the whole disc with all the bells and whistles.

It is as most of you know based on Towne32’s regrade as a base with a few select scenes and sequences regraded by me and my 1981 crawl/flyover spliced into the beginning.

77FN said:

Darth Lucas said:

Plus, it’s not like it would be hard to digitally add extra layers of grain on top of it to simulate the grain that would be present on a 35mm print in 77, if that’s what you really want.

To me adding in digital grain is a HUGE no-no. Because one is then at the mercy of the judgement call of the person adding it back. And it’s fake. It’s an addition. No matter how well done. Mike’s is a unique process of course as he’s not degraining, but by combining multiple prints the ‘gaps’ between film grains are presumably being filled in by the other ‘layers’ of film scans, to get closer to how the original neg. would likely look. I’m cool with that for an ultimate version of what Star Wars could look like, but part of me would prefer an honest representation (albeit cleaned up) of a 35mm print, with the original grain intact, extra grain & contrast anomalies on the FX shots when more elements are added in the shot, etc. But I guess we have Silver Screen for that (which I’m very thankful for!). I think my own personal holy grail will be the Tech scan, if that ever comes to light.

I’m not saying you SHOULD haha I agree it would be dumb to do so, I’m just saying if the extra grain is really that important to someone, it could be done.

To be fair he’s not “correcting” anything that is a direct result of the photography and compositing. He explained that his fixing the registration issues on the Death Star approach is because it’s impossible to tell which registration issues happened during the original compositing and which ones happened further down the line at a different stage, so just to be safe, he corrected all of them.

It’s still the original elements. It’s still the original matte lines and all of the evidence of 1976-77 compositing techniques.

The only thing he’s done that I don’t necessarily agree with is his recreating of the crawl. The degradation of the crawl as it recedes is a product of the processes of the day, and I think it should stay, but overall, that’s the only thing he’s done I have a problem with, and it’s something I can live with.

He’s doing a far more pure, honest, and respectful restoration than anyone in Hollywood right now. We are perhaps too scrutinous of work done to this film because it means so much to us and we take ownership of it. To the point where we nitpick stuff like this, even when it’s the best, most pure restoration we’ve gotten of just about any film, not just a Star Wars film.

Plus, it’s not like it would be hard to digitally add extra layers of grain on top of it to simulate the grain that would be present on a 35mm print in 77, if that’s what you really want.

I’m in the mverta camp where I like the fine negative grain, not the big, noticeable multiple generation print grain.

Never a bad idea to add to the list of available sources for restoration. 😃

What could also work is once a full scene is cleaned, give that full scene to one individual to color correct.

I think this is an interesting notion. I feel a lot of us have gained a fair amount if skill over the years and there’s probably enough of us who can do this kind of work now that this is a viable idea to put in place.

I think it would be more beneficial to distribute full shots to people, though, rather than just frames. That way we don’t run into any trouble with frames in the same shot not looking consistent, and people can pull info from surrounding frames to get rid of damage, rather than trying to clone from the same frame.

Yeah it’s getting kind of ridiculous. We all have a pretty good understanding of what went down. We know the effects of what’s happened. This conversation has become really unproductive.