Darth Lucas

Would it be possible to show us what things look like if done on a shot-by-shot basis?

You will have to pm him. Specify which set you want. Don’t be discouraged if he takes a couple days to respond, he checks the forums really sparatically.

From TN1’s description.
“Corrections : Minor cleanup with some color correction.”

Who are you asking? Harmy? You may have noticed there’s an awful lot of people posting custom covers on this forum so it may help to be specific as to who you’re referring to.

Just got home from the hospital. Thank you all for the thoughts. : )

Just letting everybody know that I am in the hospital, so I will not be posting much for the next couple days and I apologize if I don’t get back to any PMs right away.

This is a recurring issue and I’m going to be ok, but they want to keep an eye on me until they’re sure everything is good.

Well for starters, I’m pretty sure people making threads for their particular edits is a good enough place for individual feedback, so this thread is a little pointless.

But as for your clip, yeah I don’t think the voiceover works. For one thing, it’s just re-iterating dialogue we’ve already heard, and also, it kind of dumbs it down. What makes that scene great (the only scene from the prequels I would describe as “great”) is the relative silence of it. You get exactly what’s going on internally with these characters without them having to say a thing and without hearing any dialogue. Your voiceover thing reminds me of vader screaming “NO!!” at the end of ROTJ. The scene works best and is the most powerful in silence. The audience isn’t so stupid as to need to have every emotion and internal dialogue of the characters told to them verbally.

TV’s Frink said:

Darth Lucas said:

Hey, I don’t agree with alot of you’re edit ideas

A double grammy whammy!

Hey, I don’t agree with a lot of your edit ideas, but all that’s important is that you make the film the way YOU like it. If anyone doesn’t like your choices, then they can create their own edit, or choose from the metric nut-ton of TFA edits that are surely to come.
No reason you should have to stick to what other people want for YOUR edit. Even if nobody else likes it or wants to watch it, what’s important is that YOU are happy with it, otherwise what’s the point of making an edit? Might as well stick to the theatrical at that point.

yotsuya said:

towne32 said:

Anyway, unless anyone is volunteering to make a nice cleaned up HD crawl for this project there are probably better threads to discuss the nuances of each, as it ain’t getting reconstructed by me. 😃

Well, I’m doing it for my own project and I wouldn’t mind sharing. Considering the sources, I think 720p is about as good as it is going to get.

Btw, in case anyone is interested, here’s my version of the 81 crawl that will be included as an option on my BD, but I may create a straight mkv with this tagged onto 2.7 if there’s any interest. This is a slightly older version and a couple small mistakes have been remedied since I posted this initially.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2bJjDvnfW0YM3FxdmRhcnBFUHM/view?usp=sharing

towne32 said:

They took out some wrinkles, did a hair repair, changed the blood - added a good thirty or forty years to its life. The doc looks great.

Ahhhh. Took me a second and now I’m trying to explain to my family why I’m laughing. Haha.

dkeighobadi said:

So I had a look at the bluray

No you didn’t.

Well I guess as soon as I get my copy of the bluray on the 5th I’m gonna have to download one of those crappy in-theater bootlegs and compare to see if anything’s different. I thought TFA would be the last film we’d have to have theatrical reconstructions for. Sigh.

I’m sure many people would be appreciative if you did a 720p 1981 crawl with a little less gate weave than mine. 😛

Ah, yes the intricacies of trying to get the 81 crawl just right. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. CONSUME YOU IT WILL!!

MalàStrana said:

The fact that ROTJ confirms that Anakin and Darth Vader are the same person contradicts your idea. There is no mention that Anakin took the identity of someone else: he became Vader, he didn’t remplace him.

It doesn’t contradict my idea since nobody ever says he DIDNT take up someone else’s mantle. Does it involve a little retconning of what everybody THOUGHT based on what was said in the movie, yes, but it doesn’t directly contradict what was said. I understand your point. It’s not perfect or ideal, and you’re against preserving the reveal in the first place, so it’s a bit harder to get u on board, but it’s just the only way I can think of that fits the OT and preserves the reveal without making the audience feel like they’re missing important story points.

"Your father was seduced by the dark side of the force. He ceased to be anakin skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened the good man who was your father was destroyed.

I’m struggling to find anything inconsistent with ROTJ. I’m not trying to be an ass I’m just genuinely wondering what contradicts it.

ray_afraid said:

The thing is, if it was done right, you could still have Anikin fall and Vader appear in the PT without ruining ESB’s reveal. And if you were watching the films for the first time, ESB’s reveal would make you realize what really happened in the PT, making both moments even stronger.
The PT should seem to line up with what Ben tells Luke in Star Wars. That Vader murdered Anikin.

This was my idea to how this could be accomplished. I posted it in the script rewrite subforum a while back.

The idea is that there is a new character named Darth Vader (Name. Not title.). In Episode 1 Vader is a young Jedi apprenticed by Obi-Wan (and I guess Qui-Gon if you really want him there). Feeling insulted by the Jedi for ignoring his talents and potential by pairing him with such a young, inexperienced Jedi like Obi-Wan, he joins the dark side, staging his own death at the beginning of the film, only to reveal himself as the one behind it all toward the end. (If Qui-Gon is there Vader can be the one to kill him, adding more personal rivalry between he and Obi-Wan.)

Obi-Wan meets Anakin, takes it upon himself to train him as a Jedi, yadeeyada. Eventually, Anakin’s pushing of himself and lust for power turns him to the dark side, teaming up with Darth, his enemy, but Palpatine the puppet master’s plan is to pit them against each other for the more powerful one to be his ultimate apprentice.

Everything leads to a three way duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Darth Vader atop a massive volcano. Obi-Wan get tossed aside and topples down the side of the volano. Miraculously he survives and watches in horror from a distance as his greatest enemy and his former best friend duke it out atop the volcano.

Both of their lightsabers get tossed aside. They struggle with each other physically. The volcano trembles as the two let out their anger. They push and pull at each other ferociously until they both topple over, disappearing into the fires of the volcano.

Obi-Wan assumes them both dead and leaves, taking Anakin’s saber as a memento of his fallen friend.

Much later we cut back to the edge of the volcano where a charred hand reaches out from the volcano and grasps Vader’s saber lying in the rubble.

Fast forward to A New Hope. Obi-Wan says: “A young Jedi named Darth Vader who was a pupil of mine until he turned evil helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights.” Check.
“He betrayed and murdered your father” Check.
You may feel like Obi-Wan is withholding some information to spare Luke’s feelings, maybe hoping to tell him the whole story later, but you never get the sense that he is outright lying to Luke.

Fast forward to The Empire Strikes Back: “Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.” You’re thinking ‘he’s going to tell Luke that Anakin turned to the dark side before he died to convince Luke to join him’
Then he drops the bomb “No. I am your father.” Suddenly it makes sense. Anakin is the one who crawled out of the volcano, not Darth. Anakin emerged and took over the mantle of Darth Vader, leaving the last trace of his old identity behind him.

I agree with that to an extent. I still think it would be nice to find some way to preserve the reveal. But I understand the argument against it. I was once watching a marathon with a friend and his girlfriend, who had never seen the films. We watched 1-6. She already knew the line “Luke I am your father” from pop culture, so that would not have surprised her. But she didn’t know really anything else about the movies. Throughout the prequels she asked a couple times “so who is luke? Where is Darth Vader?” Because all she knew was what she had picked up from pop culture references. She was actually genuinely shocked when anakin turned to the dark side and became Darth Vader. That was a far more impactful reveal to her than “I am your father” would have been had she not seen the prequels first.

I believe those are the only changes that can’t be patched with the theatrical version, like anakin’s eyebrows.

PLEASE somebody pick up some of those Disney films. I currently do not have the financial means to, otherwise I would be jumping on these. Early Disney films have been treated horribly, particularly Snow White, Sleeping beauty, and Mary Poppins.

I wouldn’t be opposed to Ewan voicing a CG Alec Guinness.

I wouldn’t be opposed to Ewan voicing.l a CG Alec Guinness.

SuperSecretMuffin said:

TV’s Frink said:

Is that…leeeeegal?

ThePirateBay: I will make it legal.

Damn. Beat me to it. My photoshop skills are only so fast.

TV’s Frink said:

Is that…leeeeegal?