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Darth Chaltab

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#283250
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Virginia Tech shooting
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Being bullied is usually one of the things that causes people to do this.

But millions of people are and have been bullied, and these school shootings are still rare enough to be exceptional, not the norm. It's not bullying that's the direct cause; perhaps a contributing factor, but that's all. The real problem is a combination of things. It seems to me this guy was beyond narcissistic. How else do you explain him sending that video to NBC? And the contents of it, from what I've heard, seem to be him railing at 'rich kids' and trust fund babies. In other words, he was self-absorbed and jealous, not to mention likely clinically depressed and on some medication.

The level to which this was planned also showed that he didn't just 'explode' and kill a bunch of people. He was methodical, and knew exactly what he was doing.

As for the guy being arrested, I can't say I'm terribly sympathetic to him personally, and I'd say he needs a good beating, but I really don't like the idea of arresting a guy for words. Unless he actually called for someone's murder, of course.
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#283247
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Can you believe this guy?
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Rob, please shut up.

You titled this thread with a name that literally entices people to click on it. There's not even a NSFW warning or any indication of its nature.

If you'd given it a flipping honest title like "Homoerotic queers" or "Scaintily Clad Men" and not constantly posted your stupid fracking mustchache fetish pics in the Beautiful Women thread, nobody would say a word. But it seems like you're just TRYING to rub this kink you have in our faces, and it's beginning to get on people's nerves. If you want to get off to guys, that's your business, but leave us out of it.

And stop acting like the victim of homophobia or homophilia or homozygous our whatever you think Ferris is guilty of and keep your naked men in an appropriate thread.
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#282884
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Virginia Tech shooting
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I think Jed's on the right track. A university or not, there needs to be a school-wide PA system or something to notify everyone as quickly as possible. Most students don't check their email every thirty minutes. I don't think the university staff should be fired; it's easy to second guess them now, but they reacted at the time the way they thought was right.

But there definitely need to be changes in the way crises are handled.
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#282351
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Don Imus and the race issue thread.
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The media has spoken with their silence. It's okay for black people to be clearly racist; it's not even okay for white people to say something that can be construed as racist.

For example, whatever else you think of Rush Limbaugh, his Donovan McNabb remarks were crticical of sports media; yet they were said to be racist and Limbaugh was put through a verbal ringer on TV and the Web.

And yet you have people like that moron in MontCalm's post, or Ward Churchill, who can aparently say whatever they want with impunity from their bosses or contemporaries. The rules are made up as we go, it seems. Is it good Don Imus is gone? Maybe. But why do we crucify him for one remark when people like Rosie O. Donnel can spew hatred for Jews, Christians, Lions, Tigers, Bears, and everything else under the sun on "The View" and not get fired?

Simple. She didn't say anything racist against black people or bigoted towards homosexuals, which seem to be the only unforgivable sins in media.
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#282194
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Here son, take a puff of this.

Hmm, yeah, that just might work. If you feel like going to prison.

Firefly I think can go either way. It has the whole cowboy thing, and cowboys in America are considered very conservative. They have their guns and value their freedom. You also have the whole outlaw theme and the oppressive government theme going on. Liberals are control freaks, whereas conservatives are very much interested in individual freedom, something the crew of the Serenity is also quite fond of. Then you have the gov. in Firefly which is depicted as evil and it is very U.N.ish in that it is a one world/one universe government, something the conservative are typically very against.


That's a very good point.

SPOILERS AHEAD.

Another thing I noticed was that the government tried to chemically induce peace on planet Miranda with the PAX chemical; but it didn't work. People just lay down and died because the absence of aggression made them not care if they lived or not. The idea of peace at all costs is definitely not a conservative theme. Conflict is a part of human nature, and trying to take that away in Serenity killed a planet and created the Reavers.
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#281989
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
...the media was on his side.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Good one!

Born On The 4Th Of July
Thirteen Days
The Deer Hunter


Not seen these.

Pearl Harbor
Independance Day


Pearl Harbor is pretty much neutral. It's just a love story set in the context of that War.

Independence Day has some conservative themes (fight to kill your enemies, don't show them kindness once they've proven hostile) and some traditionally liberal ones (the idea that America needs its enemies to help fight the alien threat, for example). Overall I'd say it's more patriotic than overtly political.


I remember people commenting on this one when it was theaters that people cheered when the White House was blown up, but they also cheered when the aliens were defeated, kind of reflected the attitude of the people then. They were aggravated with the President, but still proud of their country.


You know, Clinton was in office at the time. The fact that people cheered then is both ammusing yet someone frightening to me.

But yeah, most Americans are proud of their country. It's the far-left nutjobs like Rosie O. Donnel and the far right religious fanataics like Fred Phelps that are ashamed of America.

The difference is that Phelps is a marginalized nobody who gets off to protesting at the funerals of Amish children and American soldiers while Rosie O. Donnel has a forum on a nationally syndicated and popular TV show.

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#281869
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
...the media was on his side.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Good one!

Born On The 4Th Of July
Thirteen Days
The Deer Hunter


Not seen these.

Pearl Harbor
Independance Day


Pearl Harbor is pretty much neutral. It's just a love story set in the context of that War.

Independence Day has some conservative themes (fight to kill your enemies, don't show them kindness once they've proven hostile) and some traditionally liberal ones (the idea that America needs its enemies to help fight the alien threat, for example). Overall I'd say it's more patriotic than overtly political.
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#281801
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
A disaster? How so? The United States of America was founded on the ideals of Truth and Justice, so it is the American way. Like I said in my previous post, just because the current administration might be making some people angry (others were angry at the US before he came into office, so that's not his fault), doesn't mean that Truth and Justice aren't still the American way.
You said truth and justice is the American way so I would say truth and justice would be enough. Besides, superman is not an american, he's not even human.

Physically, he's not human, but he was raised on a quaint farm in Kansas by a couple of Americans, and he lives in and protects one of America's greatest cities.

Adding "the American way" would not be bad in my opinion because of the current administration, it has nothing to do with that.


Excuse me? Are you saying, that based on your (in my opinion erroneous) view that Bush is somehow unjust and untruthful, that America no-longer stnads for truth and justice? That's incredibly near-sighted. Did anyone say America was inherently untruthful and unjust when Clinton was being impeached for lying under oath? Or was Nixon's sin somehow the fault of the American people?

Mixing "the American way" with a universal figure like superman will look like Americans can't look beyond there own country. There's no truth and justice in any other part of the world?


That's not the point, though. Truth and Justice are, at least ideally, the American way. It doesn't mean that the rest of the world doesn't have truth and justice.

Edit: Or is "truth, justice and the American way" some sort of proverb? Something you usually say in one sentence? Is it like when you say "truth, justice" it's automatically followed by "the American way" than it's stupid to leave it out.


"Truth, Justice, and The American Way," is as far as I know a phrase that originanted in the 1950s Superman television series. It's something that's been associated with the character of Superman for over 50 years. If you look up the phrase on Wikipedia, it literally redirects you to the Superman article.
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#281700
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: C3PX

That is really stupid about the "truth, justice and everything else", very retarded. I am getting sick of anti-Americanism in the US. Every other country has their right to be anti-American for whatever reason they choose, but for Americans to do it, this really proves the rotten state of things. That particular line would not have been one of those typically American things in a film. Usually the "typically American" things in films have to do with the very enthocentic world view Americans generally have, or just glaring bits of American culture that inevitable show up in own movies. Every culture has this, only Americans export a lot more films and TV shows than other countries do. Every culture has their quarks, America's just more visable to the rest of the world through our exported media.


QFT.

Some of the things people read into movies sometimes utterly astounds me. I encountered one review of TMNT on the internet which basically said that TMNT was about organized violence and prepairing young children to become evil American warmongers. WTF!? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is now PROPAGANDA!?

You've GOT to be kidding me.
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#281623
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Most Liberal and Conservative movies
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
If V for Vendetta isn't a liberal movie, I don't know what is.


V for Vendetta is a warning against far-right reactionsim. It seems to me like it's taking what literally goes on in Muslim cultures today and applying it to how horrifying it would be if it happened in the Western World. If anything, it's a warning to fight the kind of religious fantacism that our enemies embrace, and rather scathing in the fact it makes it clear that ultimately the people are to blame for tyranny, because they acqueisce to it.

Overall, I think most movies aren't easily classified as 'liberal' or 'conservative'. I mean, I've seen liberals blast films as innoculous as The Incredibles for, according to left-wing nut jobs, espousing Nazi ideals. I think there's definitely a good social message in the film--don't be mediocre, be great--and liberals HATE that sort of message.