- Post
- #81278
- Topic
- Myths
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/81278/action/topic#81278
- Time
It claims "some gasses had a reaction that made a gigantic bang". Gasses that had to pre-date the big bang.
"However, you seem to think that by disproving one you disprove both. This is of course ridiculous but whatever."
They both fail for the same reasons.
"Once again no one claims that matter had to exist before the Big Bang."
*Scratches head*, care to explain why the big bang theory needs gasses to pre-date the big bang then (without claiming that matter had to exist before the big bag)?
"I actually think that the current thought is that this the 8th or something iteration of our universe."
Shows what you "know". This is demonstratably wrong, there is no "big crunch" there never was, and there never will be. Some variant of the big bang theory theorized big crunch-big bang-big crunch-big bang, but it is completely wrong.
"So the Big Bang theory does not attempt to explain the origin of the universe at all, but merely it is an explanation for observable phenomenon in the current universe."
Thank you for agreeing with what I said.
"Gluons- You seem to think that gluons are imaginary fudge factors invented by particle physicists to explain things that fucked with their theories. (...) Some really smart people began playing around with particle accelerators to see if they existed and low and behold some gluons started showing up all over the place."
What I think you mean is that the existence of gluons is one possible explanation for the results they observed. There is hardly conclusive evidence, or even "strong" evidence.
"2)Particles aren't complex?- Why you think this I have no idea. As far as fundamental particles go, there are 12 quarks, 12 leptons and all their anti-particles. So that leaves 48 fundamental particles floating around which we have to assume must be doing something other than posting dumbass facts on a forum. And these guys don't even obey normal laws. I mean these things are ten-dimensional string particles, they're up to cool shit all the time. Entire branches of science are dedicated to the study of the complexities of particles so why do you say this."
Indeed, though like I said, it is all inexplicable. Even if you point out that "quarks are (believed to be) the building blocks of all matter". We still don't know what light is, how it works - or why it reacts with other particles. Why is the question not answerable. "Why do quarks obey laws?"
"3)Viruses aren't alive-Granted life is a bit of a tricky thing to define but currently I'd have to say viruses fit the definition."
There's always one. A virus is something that infects life, that's completely different to actually being alive. What does it do? "live independently in other living cells"? No, it doesn't. It infects a cell, then goes and infects another, because viruses do not perform the chemical actions/reactions of life. It can't move to a new "home", it must have a host cell. It is a useless functionless mass of non-living nucleic acid without one. And it relies on survival of the host living cell. If it dies, so does the virus. If the virus dies, the cell lives on.
Viruses are non-living microscopic particles that attack healthy cells within living things. They do not have the characteristics of living things and are not able to metabolize food. To metabolize means to change food energy into chemical energy that the body can use. Viruses are not alive, so they do not have a need for food like living oganisms. Viruses do not have an organized cell structure. They are so light that they can float in the air or water, be passed on to other organisims if touched, and fit anywhere. The virus injects its own DNA structure into healthy cells where new virus cells grow.
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212089/virus.htm?tqskip1=1
"But they're still alive, I mean people work on ways to kill viruses all the time and it's hard to kill something that was never alive."
Well, not very well. There are no known antibiotics that kill viruses. That's why you get injected with (lesser) viruses intended to provoke your body to build antibodies compatible with fighting certain (greater-risk) viruses instead. In fact, to use your example of HIV - even sharing needles it is difficult to contract because it "survives" for a very short time while the blood is outside the body.