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#82570
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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To those who are participating in this project...

Have any of you compared the '97 SE Laserdisc to the 2004 DVD yet???

I just got through comparing a little of the Faces LD w/ the '97 LD and there is a literally night-and-day difference between the 2. I didn't get around to compairing the SE LD w/ the '04 DVD.

I have an old Pioneer CLD-V2400 w/ composite connection only and comparing the opening scenes of ANH between the 2 the '97 SE is sharper w/ alot more detail in the pictures. In fact the SE LD reminds me of how the movie looked in 1979 in the theaters when watching SW for the first time.

I'm wondering, have any of you "de-SE'ing" participants have gotten a hold of the German DTV version since it's all ready in digital form and might be easier to insert than copying the SE LD then fixing then insetting???
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#82569
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<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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UPDATE:

I went ahead and hooked up my LD Player a Pioneer CLD-V2400 w/ composite to my 50" Panny and compared it to the TR47 set using my DVD player (using component)

I didn't spend too much time but the TR47 was pretty close to the Faces LD. The only difference I could tell was the Original "Faces" LD was brighter w/a little bit of a red push compared to the TR47 set.

PLEASE HELP: What is dot crawl???

Anyway both may had the same amount of jagged outlines of the images on screen w/ a slight egde in sharpness to the Original LD, but not much.

I also purchased the '97 SE LD and boy what a difference the SE LD reminded me of how Star Wars looked in the theaters in 1977. DAMN it's too bad Lucas isn't going to fix and put out the OT on DVD.

The '97 SE LD was sharper than the Faces LD, colors might have been the same except more detailed w/ crushing of the gold colors of C3PO's outer shell. (NOTE: I only watched the open scene on all three discs)

So in order from best to worst:

1) '97 SE LD - sharper picture, less jagged lines on the images, more detail on C3PO's shell
2) Faces LD - Colors brighter (may be too much red push) - very slight edge of sharpness over the TR47 set
3) TR47 - but only what was mentioned above - sound still excellent, same if not better than the Faces LD

I don't know if the Faces LD looked so fuzzy because of the composite connection or my player, I'm not sure if it would have looked better on a different player or using S-video or not. Does anybody know the answer to this???

I am SO looking forward to the next generation of SW LD b/u projects, from the pictures i've seen there may not be a difference between the LD and the b/u's w/ a slight edge to the b/u's do to the filtering.

Hope this is helpful.
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#79886
Topic
<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79886/action/topic#79886
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Well, I finally got to watch some of the TR47 set so here's an UN-educated review. I don't know anything about LD to DVD transfers or video editing or anything like that. I'm here to one day start my own "starwarslegacy" project since Mike (mverta) isn't going to share which is a REAL, REAL, REAL, REAL, BUMMER. I could even provide proof of purchase for the 2004 DVD set, but still NO bites. Anybody else out there wanting to do a similar project as mverta's??? (my PM is working)

Anyway, here's my set up which isn't the greatest in the world, but any improvement based on components would probably be subtle (but not sure):

1) 50" PHD-6UY Panasonic Plasma
2) A/V Reciever Pioneer VSX-D711
3) Brand new $270 Sharp DVD-RW / VHS player (I forget model #)
4) SpeakerCraft AIM3 in ceiling speakers and matching 12" sub

I understand that this is one of the best OT back-ups available for now, so here's hoping the next generation is better (The new TR47 set or the Zion or MBJ set)

PICTURE:

Was soft and looks like analog cable on my monitor, but the colors are a little more washed out. I watched:
a) The opening battle on board Princess Leia's Blockade Runner(ANH)
b) The Battle on Hoth(ESB)
c) The Millium Falcon escape of Hoth (ESB)
d) The Battle on Endor (ROTJ)

The picture reminds me of an old VHS tape.

SOUND:

Since my DVD Player is brand new I haven't had the chance to set up bit stream feed to my A/V reciever, but what I heard I was pretty happy with.

I have NO regrets purchasing this set. Since there are no other choices and that I believe what people are saying that the TR47 is one of the best available.

If the video could match the sound I heard this set would be perfect. I have the OT on LD, but I've been to lazy to dig it out and set up the LD Player. I may just have to do that to see how close the TR47 set is to the disks. If I do this I'll post a follow-up.
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#78685
Topic
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78685/action/topic#78685
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I was fooling around and did an A/B comparison of the OT TR47 DVD and the 2004 DVD.

The 2004 DVD adds 19 frames of Greedo shooting first, Han shoots back twice and 2 frames are removed that are on the TR47 DVD.

Closing my eyes and listening to the 2 different scenes, I can barely tell any difference between the 2. So I'm wondering why you simply can not remove the 19 frames added and add back 1 of the the 2 missing frames. (you really do not need the 1st of the 2 missing TR47 frames).

It was mention earlier in the thread that you can not do this, please explain in a little more detail why???

Thanks
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#74476
Topic
Got the DVDs Today
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(First post)

Hi All,

I proudly bought the 2004 DVD's, I pretty much can except most of the changes except:

1) Greedo should have never even gotten a shot off.
2) The new Sarlakk (sp?).
3) Haydens ghost - The explaination makes sense, but it's inconsistant because Luke's reaction is a look of fimiliarity. Luke has never seen young Anakin, therefore the change does not make sense.

I can even pretty much defend the PT, but not the above changes.

C-Yah,