It’s how he works. 90% of his comments are rude to others people’s work. I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t been banned yet. There’s a nicer way to provide constructive criticism.
I too voted “Yes” for using the line but not in the context of the posted scene on Vimeo.
DZ, I like it, but I still think the “thousand generations” should be mentioned for what they bring to the finale.
I’m just thinking it would have been insane if the ghosts were in the theatrical cut without the foreshadowing. It would have been mindblowing in the theater. I guess my mindset is, “let that be a surprise for the audience without hinting about it”. Plus, there is already a small hint of it at the beginning of the film.
But your point is proven wrong if you look at the whole sentence: “We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.” As in, she has to initiate the fight but they will help her when she does.
“but this is your fight” is not included in the video as I realized it is a contradiction for this edit. “We’ll always be with you.” works much better for foreshadowing than “A thousand generations live in you now, but this is your fight.” If it is Rey’s fight then why do ALL the Jedi show up at the end in spirit?
Why is it Rey’s fight if all the ghosts show up? Luke contradicts himself because he joins the fight.
Here’s my take on the scene. By removing some lines it allows Rey to “take it upon herself” to go to Exegol. She doesn’t need Luke telling her what do to.
Saw this after my last post. The url appears to be invalid.
It’s up now. Was still uploading. Maybe I’m a little biased to my own opinion on this but I feel it is a stronger character moment for Rey to want to go to Exegol on her own instead of Luke guiding her and instructing her to. What does he care if she takes both sabers. It just feels like another audience pandering moment. Let the characters think and make their own decisions.
Here’s my take on the scene. By removing some lines it allows Rey to “take it upon herself” to go to Exegol. She doesn’t need Luke telling her what do to.
Removing the “A thousand generations live in you now” line seems like the better option. Luke is implying that it is only her who can fight Palpatine and yet all the voices and ghosts appear. If it is Rey’s fight then why are they even showing up?!
Maybe removing that whole line and replacing with the below would be even better and lead to less contradictions?
“…someone who would finish her journey. We’ll always be with you. You’ll take both sabers to Exegol.”
To me it makes the Rey Skywalker scene at the end make more sense and is more personal. Luke is assuring Rey that him and Leia will always be with Rey, so when Rey sees them at the end of the movie it is just reassuring the familial bond they now have, and further reinforces why Rey is choosing her last name to be Skywalker. Plus, it removes the contradiction of it being Rey’s fight yet ALL the Jedi show up in spirit.
Whew… that was a lot lol
JEDIT: Plus it allows us to remove the last awful wig shot of Luke that jonh was having trouble with.
JEDIT 2!: It appears to show more of Luke providing wisdom to Rey rather than pushing off the fight on her.
Rey never knows the other Jedi. I think personal works way better after Luke just told a personal story about him and Leia.
She tries to reach out to them in the beginning of the movie, we then get a payoff at the end with all the jedi. I like it that way.
Does that moment need foreshadowing though? I think if that the ghosts were in the actual movie it would work better without the foreshadowing. Maybe that’s just me though…
Rey never knows the other Jedi. I think personal works way better after Luke just told a personal story about him and Leia.
EDIT: Don’t think there is enough footage for this unfortunately. Wish it could work though.
Scrap this I actually have a proof of concept for this idea I can share here. Works pretty well; Luke’s mouth movements match the end of the line.
Awesome! Can’t wait to see. I love when ideas become a reality. As sucky as this movie is the collaboration has been amazing in this community!
Hot damn this is actually an insanely good idea. I have the audio line if anybody is up for it? I’m willing to lose the whole 1000 generations for this.
EDIT: Don’t think there is enough footage for this unfortunately. Wish it could work though.
We really only need to extend footage for the “a thousand generations live in you now”. The “but this is your fight” can still be the shot of Luke. Maybe a shot of Rey could be recycled?
Are we able to cut the wide shot with Luke and adjust his dialogue to be:
“…someone who would finish her journey. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight. You’ll take both sabers to Exegol.”
Green and blue do not make yellow either…
We are going for symbolism here more than anything else.
There is a blue and green color in the theatrical version when she ignites her blade. Changing it to blue and purple assumes she used Luke and Leia’s crystals from their now broken lightsabers to create her own.
- Recolor the two lights on Rey’s yellow saber to blue and purple
Finally! One of my ideas made it on the changelist. Wooooo!!! Hopefully one of these special effect geniuses here can make it a reality. 😃
Also: YES I KNOW LUKE’S SABER IS GREEN AND I AGREE IT STANDS FOR HIS CHARACTER BUT IT JUST DOESN’T MAKE SENSE FOR THIS STUPID SCENE IN THIS STUPID MOVIE BECAUSE SHE ONLY HAS HIS BLUE ONE AND IT BREAKS EVERYTHING BUT WHATEVER I DON’T ACTUALLY CARE.
The main reason I think it should be blue and purple in the context of this edit.
The only thing Rey knows of the green is it trying to murder Kylo. Hero Luke accept the blue saber, not the green.
Oh, and that’s a genius idea to make the little lights green and purple in the end scene. (It even makes a tad more sense that purple and green would add up to a yellow hue.) Who’s up for it? lol
Blue and purple
Anakin/Luke/Rey and Leia’s
Luke’s green is AWOL, assuming she is using the crystals of the lightsabers she has
To address something from MR’s thread, I hadn’t really planned on using his clip of added sparks to the sabers at the end of Exegol. But, the final product looks fantastic!
Please include this! It makes Rey burying them at the end make so much more sense. They served their purpose and now she has her own path. If we really want to try something cool… when Rey ignites her saber there is a green and blue color during the ignition. Can the green be recolored to purple? Implying both sabers broke and Rey used the Kyber Crystals to make her own lightsaber with them would help sell Rey Skywalker more, at least for me.
Glad everyone is working so hard on this. Cannot wait for the finished copy. Any progress on the Skywalker Puppet Pals scene?
I don’t want to sound nitpicky. The work out this project has been outstanding.
I still think a little of the coloring looks off. It’s really dark at the beginning, then the sky has a green hue in the right corner behind Rey, then goes back to being dark. The shot of the burning TIE has it almost looking pitch black around it but Rey and the Porgs are lit up. I love the idea and the hard work but I don’t think it 100% there just yet.
It would be nice to have Luke say that as Rey looks at the X-Wing. Could work as a little foreshadowing.
Any changes that make the trilogy feel more connected should be encouraged.