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#267688
Topic
***//BUILDING EMPIRE\\: PAL & NTSC DVD - NEW EDITION NOW ONLINE! ***
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/267688/action/topic#267688
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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Originally posted by: DVD-BOY
Out of interest, did you / was there / will there ever be a DL version of this, like there is with RtJ?
I'm assuming you kept a high quality version of the edit


NO, there was never a DL version of 'BE'. Luckily it all fitted perfectly on one SL DVD-R.

'RTJ' runs a bit longer. And I transcoded it with a newer version of 'Compressor' which may have higher bit-rate standards.

JD


No worries, I didn't know whether you had only just 'found your footing' now with Dual Layer.
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#264573
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Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264573/action/topic#264573
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Star Wars 1080p h264 is at a.b.hdtv. Empire is being posted now. I guess Jedi will follow. Are these the Sky versions you talk about Karyudo?


They are, although people are saying the DVNR is higher on them than on the German PremiereHD versions posted before Christmas.

For StarWarsHD goodness, your choices currently consist of:

German HD Edition - best quality video, but with German text and PAL speedup
SkyHD edition - good quality, although not as good as the German version and PAL speedup
Cinemax / HBO edition - MPEG-2, lower quality but correct audio.

So what you need is all three, take the majority of the German version, splice in the English crawls etc from the SkyHD version and then sync it with the audio of either the Cinemax / HBO / NTSC DVD / Your preferred audio. Easy!

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#264446
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Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264446/action/topic#264446
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Ok, so reading over at the HD Forums, it appears that this capture isn't quite as good as the german version posted earlier.

- Some Macroblocking
- Suppression of Grain

So it appears the best version would be the German Video, intercut with the SkyHD broadcast for any onscreen text, converted to 23.98fps and synced to a tweaked version of the 2006 5.1 audio?

Does anyone know where the German caps are still available? I didn't bother getting them at the time, and they're no longer on Easynews (Yes, I know Empire & Jedi were posted under fake titles).
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#263078
Topic
Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263078/action/topic#263078
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
You really don't get HD, do you...
Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Dunedain just likes using the words HD and Blu-Ray...and that's about it.


LOL! DFNYC, you're harsh, but funny man!

Now seriously, it's looking like the SkyHD is going to be the best 'source', so theoretically speaking:

- H264 sourced 25fps converted to 23.98 fps AVI (Not sure if Huffy goes to 1080...) Someone on the ABHDTV.net forums who did an MPEG-2 conversion talked about Procoder doing a 'nearest' frame conversion.

- Sync with NTSC AC3 from 2004 DVD - encode a dirty 'ref' movie to sync with?

- Re-encode to H264 to fit on a DVD-9 (Or wait for HD-15 / HD-30?). I'm not sure yet whether Mainconcept H264 encoder would apply perfect 3:2 flags to a video file. Perhaps that should be done at the AVI stage?

Not ideal with the re-encoding, but unlike MPEG-2, I don't think the raw H264 would drop into an HD DVD authoring app, plus we would need to frame-rate convert.

With regards to authoring, who knows what 2007 will bring from Apple and DVDSPx, or there is the Scenarist 4 SCA route...

But what do I know, I still owe DFNYC a copy of my Indiana Jones DVD EPK Encode.
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#261822
Topic
Star Wars Edit: DC/Faces audio + 2004 video Hybrid (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261822/action/topic#261822
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It's all smoke and mirrors Arnie!

I believe the bitrate limitations is to help with the interleaving of the angle blocks.

With regards to you PCM, although the technical bitrate is 1536Kbps, I've always bit-budgeted for 1600-1700Kbps, just so that I have a little extra headroom - PCM can be a bit of a hog when it comes to resources.

HTH
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#261819
Topic
Star Wars Edit: DC/Faces audio + 2004 video Hybrid (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261819/action/topic#261819
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I used CCE SP v2.70. I selected the multi angle option with a maximum bitrate of 4100 (so 2 angles; 2 x 4100 + 1536 = 9736, shouldn't be too high). I tested the multi angle option in DVDMaestro (v2.9) with just the multi angle scenes + audio and there was no problem, it compiled ok, I burned it to dvd and it played fine. But when I try to compile the entire dvd I get an error about an VOBU exceeding the max bitrate of 8000. But I'm not sure if the program means 8000 with or without audio. But since the test with only the multi angle scenes went fine I don't know what all the trouble is about.


Hey Arnie,

Did a bit of a google search, and this came up over at Doom9:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=36724

Don't know if it's any help to you, although it looks like the Max bitrate for 2 angles is 7800Kbps...

A colleague of mine started authoring a multi-angle project in Spruce a few years back. Everything seemed to be working well, but then it just broke - he ended up re-authoring the entire project in Sonic DVD Creator. As I understand it, Spruce can get quite flakey with multi-angle. I would have said something along the lines of the number of angles, or having angle blocks that don't run for the entire movie, but by the sound of it, you had it working, it's just when you've added everything else in, it's gone wrong.

As an experiment, have you tried converting your PCM to Ac3 to see it that fixes the problem? Not something you want to do for your final project, but may be worth a punt.

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#258618
Topic
Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258618/action/topic#258618
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: DVD-BOY
I believe if you were going to flip this into another format (MPEG-2 for HD DVD DFNYC ),


Sorry...that's Blu-Ray. HD DVD uses VC1 almost completely and is a much more efficient codec taking up 1/3 the space (sometimes less) than MPEG2 does.


Sorry, I thought I saw you on the AVS forums with regards to making red laser DVDs of HD content, playable in HD-A1 using Ulead's software. Isn't that how you did your Trailer HD DVD?

In the near future, hopefully the homebrew community will be able to run out DVD-Rs / DVD+R DLs with H264 & VC-1 video, but for the short term, HD DVD is stuck with MPEG-2, although at least that works (I understand Blu-ray and Ulead don't)
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#258501
Topic
Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258501/action/topic#258501
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
People are reporting a size of about 10 GB for each of the three original films from Cinemax. The highest number I've seen quoted is 12 GB, I think -- and who knows what all that includes; there's some "bonus material" that may be included in that total.


Wow, that sounds quite low. I think the prequel rips I'm just finishing downloading of the Sky Broadcast are about 18GB in H264, so 12GB in MPEG-2 doesn't sound great.

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#258498
Topic
Star Wars HD coming in November! All SIX movies!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258498/action/topic#258498
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With regards to the PAL speed up, I believe if you were going to flip this into another format (MPEG-2 for HD DVD DFNYC ), then over at abhdtv.com they've been doing some tests with Pro Coder 2, to bring the framerate down to 23.97.

The long and the short of it, is if you're going to play this back on a computer, you can probably do something about the framerate, and if you going to flip this into another format, you can probably do something about the framerate.

In terms of Pros and Cons for the US Broadcasts:

Pros

- US Broadcasts will be in MPEG-2? Easy to play
- Correct Film speed

Cons

- Very Hard to Impossible to extract from a PVR
- 3:2 Motion Judder

In terms of Pros and Cons for Euro Broadcasts (Taking in the original trilogy from Germany and the prequel trilogy from SkyHD in the UK, who will also be showing the OT)

Pros

- H264 Video should be better / smaller?
- Easier to rip
- No Judder

Cons

- 4% PAL Speedup
- Higher CPU Requirements for playback
- Original Trilogy currently only available in German Flavour

By this side of Christmas we should be seeing something hitting the net, and who knows what the fans will do with these sources by May 2007?
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#256864
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256864/action/topic#256864
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Adywan,

I don't know where you've been looking in the UK but I just bought a 320GB Seagate External Drive from PC World for £79.99 at the weekend.

Looking on Dabs, it appears it's £70 for 320GB, £100 for 400GB and £120 for 500GB, so I would agree with Laserman that 320 is the current sweetspot.

HTH
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#255375
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255375/action/topic#255375
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Originally posted by: THX
Good idea in principle, but of course BD-R is not full quality.


???

Do you mean that a BD-R isn't large enough to store an uncompressed copy of the film? True, of course but you could get a pretty nice transfer in something like Huffy on a 50Gb disc. But then the discs set you back almost as much as a 200Gb HD anyway
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#249769
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info &amp; discussion thread (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249769/action/topic#249769
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Unfortunately it's too late now, but if you go into the setup menu of your digital receiver, you can change the TV aspect ratio to 4:3. This should prevent a 4:3 image from being "pillar boxed".


I'm using a Toppy PVR in the UK which just stores the transported streams. I'm currently watching Tv on a 4:3 box and have it set for 4:3. BBC in the UK use Pan & Scan or "Center Cut Out" when displaying 4:3 programs. The likes of ITV, Channel 4 and five all display 4:3 video, with the correct MPEG header.

In other words if you're recording a BBC MPEG stream, that's how they're broadcast. Analogue TV you wouldn't have the problem as everything is 4:3.

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#249710
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info &amp; discussion thread (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249710/action/topic#249710
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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
If the vertical black bars are actually present in your recording, does that mean they would show up on a standard tv as having a black border. Similar to say, a non anamorphic widescreen release on a ws tv. You could just chop off the sides, right?
I'm really anxious for a copy of this movie. I joined a film club at my college and would love to show it during one of our "private" meetings.


I believe the trick is to flag the 16:9 video and 4:3 pan and scan in authoring.

If you watch the film on a 16:9 tv set you get the image in the center of the screen with plag bars down the sides like you would if you were watching 4:3 footage, only in this case the black bars are part of the image.

If you watch it back on a 4:3 tv, instead of letterboxing the image and so getting black bars on all four sides, you use pan and scan which will crop the left and right sides of the image, so you still see the 4:3 part of the image on your 4:3 screen.

The only major downside is that because you have anamorphically squeezed your 4:3 image, you have lost some of the horizontal resolution in doing so, so the image will not be as good as a natural 4:3 image which is what would have been shown on analogue tv in the uk.