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Cthulhunicron

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#1342135
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<em>Star Wars: The Clone Wars</em> To Return With New Episodes
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ChainsawAsh said:

God, can you guys just imagine if the show hadn’t been cancelled and we’d have seen these episodes pre-Rebels, with no idea if Ahsoka or Rex make it through alive?

It was intense enough knowing they make it, but if we didn’t? Wow.

I was thinking the same thing when I was watching. I couldn’t believe how much tension I felt, despite knowing they would survive.

Overall, I really enjoyed the whole season, especially the last four episodes. IMO, the siege of mandalore/order 66 arc was the best Star Wars content since 1983!

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#1335764
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Who the heck ARE the Sith in RoS?
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Slavicuss said:

Cthulhunicron said:

SilverWook said:

Maybe the crowd was just more of these guys?

Or else I think it’s just his personal army of Torgos. ;P

Who exactly are those guys? Anyone know?

Perfumed, arse-licking toadies. The Emperor kept them around as advisors, I think. If you’ve read the RETURN OF THE JEDI novelisation, you’ll know Lord Vader had a very low opinion of them.

I actually did read the novelization, but it was a long while ago and I barely remember it.

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#1333214
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How do you feel about the inclusion of “Episode V” in ESB’s opening crawl in 1980?
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I grew up on the vhs releases in the early 90s and the episode numbers were confusing to me. Eventually I learned about Lucas’s plans to make prequels and it made a little more sense.

Sometimes I wish there was a version of the trilogy with no episode numbers. I’m not really opposed to the idea of prequels (I just wish they had been good) but I don’t like the idea of labeling the first movie in a franchise episode 4, even if it’s the 4th episode chronologically. I like the idea of Star Wars being the name of the saga, and I don’t mind the title A New Hope. So I kinda wish the original trilogy was episodes 1-3, and then the prequels had a different trilogy name. For example, they could be called the Clone Wars trilogy, or the Old Republic trilogy, or something. ANH and TPM could each be episode 1, but of two separate but related trilogies.

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#1328039
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The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy
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I think you could also argue that a force user that is trying to maintain a balance between light and dark would not stay neutral. A grey force user, to me, seems more like ANH-era Han Solo, but with a lightsaber and force powers. I can see someone like that being guided somewhat by their emotions, and not afraid to get involved in a conflict if they’re angered by some injustice.

The problem that arises for me, is that this again doesn’t seem that dissimilar from a regular Jedi, just maybe a bit more self serving. We’re told from dialogue throughout all 9 movies that once you start embracing the dark side, it corrupts you. So even if someone believes they can maintain a balance between light and dark, I feel like they will still wind up being corrupted, based on the logic within the Star Wars films. The dark side is defined as embracing anger, hatred, and lust for power. I don’t really see why someone should try to incorporate those emotions into their life if they are seeking balance. I don’t see any evidence that TLJ or TROS are advocating a “middle path.” Luke says the Jedi need to end, but then later says he was wrong.

I think a lot of people are misinterpreting the dark side as simply being emotions, and that embracing the light side necessitates suppression of all emotions.

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#1327951
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The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy
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DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

All due respect: I’ve never understood this argument. I understand Taoist traditions, but I can’t comprehend a “good dark side user”. Love and passion aren’t equivalent to darkness, they just lead you to it if you aren’t careful.

Dare I say it, I don’t think the Jedi did anything wrong during the Clone Wars. A genius outsmarted them. Had Palpatine not been involved Anakin would have either peacefully left their order or broken off with Padme and firmly joined their cause. I just can’t see the Jedi losing the PT because they were “too good”.

The issue as many see with the Jedi’s approach is that they taught their students to essentially suppress any and all emotion that leads to the dark side. That’s unhealthy, and in the end we see that it leads to the dark side as well.

Personally, I feel that the Jedi are wrong about not allowing romantic love. However, I don’t think it means they are wrong to teach their students to resist the dark side, as I don’t equate romantic love with automatically being connected to the dark side. In my opinion, one can be fully aligned with the light side of the force, and still be in a relationship with someone.

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#1327913
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The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy
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yotsuya said:

I take a lot of what George has said with a grain of salt. He on one hand says that the force is not ying and yang, but on the other that is how he wrote the stories. That is what Dave Filoni has taken from it and what shows up in Clone Wars and Rebels and The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. The way I take the events of the PT is that the Jedi have slide too far to the light and have tipped the balance while the Sith have grown in power. So both sides are out of whack and in need of a reset. The Jedi think the Chosen One will come and wipe out the Sith. The Sith don’t care. So the Chosen one comes and the Sith lure him to the dark side and he helps wipe out the Jedi. Then 23 years later he wipes out his sith master and comes back to the light side. He balanced the force by resetting everything leaving Luke to rebuild. But there are still other force users out there. In The Last Jedi they made it very clear (Following in line with The Clone Wars and rebels - both which Lucas consulted on and okayed) that it very much is a ying and yang and they need to be in balance. They can be in balance in each person. Ignoring either side creates the imbalance. Luke set out to rebuild the Old Republic Jedi and was reintroducing the imbalance in the system. The force reset again, but this time finding balance in a relatively untrained person who has read the ancient texts - from the time when the Jedi were the balanced force users. So while he said no yin/yang a time or two, the end result of what he created is exactly yin/yang. He’s done that a time or two so taking him 100% as his word is not always a safe bet. I think he would have abandoned his Whills idea. Now if they were the race we saw in Clone Wars, that would have been cool, but microscopic? No.

I’ve heard audio recordings of Lucas talking to the Clone Wars writers, saying that the dark side basically is imbalance. In the recording, he says that destroying the Sith equates to balancing the Force. Obi-Wan says this in ROTS. I don’t see much evidence (outside of Rebels) that the audience is supposed to think it’s bad or unbalanced to embrace the light side. Otherwise, Luke would be “unbalanced” when he spares Vader. I’ve always felt that in that moment, he’s even more in touch with the light side than Yoda or Obi-wan, since they were telling Luke to just kill Vader.