You’re not meant to stop and think and try to make sense of it all Hal 😉
You jest, but it’s true. That’s the way Star Wars has always been. It’s emotional, not logical. None of it makes any sense logically and if you think about the viability of certain plot elements in those terms, it falls apart. So no, you’re not meant to make sense of it all.
That’s not the way it used to be. The OT makes sense, every action is justified.
The walkers don’t make sense. Neither does the two-dimensional space flight. Nor the idea of a giant slug being sexually attracted to humanoid women.
Apples and oranges. There’s a slight suspension of disbelief with the original three movies. TROS is complete nonsense by comparison. Palpatine is resurrected with no explanation. The Sith Eternal somehow create a fleet bigger than the First Order with no explanation. The Sith fleet can’t leave Exegol even though apparently ships have been coming and going for decades. A gigantic piece of the Death Star survives the explosion in ROTJ and re-entry through an atmosphere with no explanation. Ochi for some reason has a dagger that is shaped to fit along the skyline of the wreckage, and for some reason it has Sith writing, telling him where to find the holocron, even though he already knows where it is. Did he make the dagger? Did he find it? Who knows, cause the movie never tells us. Hux saves Poe and Finn, despite not having any real reason to do so. I could go on and on.
Need I answer every question? Ok…
Palpatine has a Sith Cult caring for him. I would imagine this same cult brought him from the Death Star (which we can see survived in part).
Palpatine has the Empire’s resources while he as building the fleet. Probably with the intention of using them for the Empire before it died. The First Order was the remnants of Imperial Officers in the unknown regions, they didn’t have the same resources.
The fleet might be big but it has a skeleton crew. Hence the need to leave by transmitter. This wasn’t a problem when there weren’t x-wings attacking.
Physics has never mattered before: the Death Star can explode in any which way it wants.
The dagger seems to have been a route for Ochi to reach Exogel. This makes sense because how else would be reach the hidden planet. Stuff like this shouldn’t be explained in flashbacks. It diminishes the story’s focus.
Hux dislikes Ren. He wants him to lose power so he can take over. This is clearly established throughout the trilogy.
The point of this isn’t to answer random plot holes but to show the story is logical, it just requires a great deal of thinking and filling in blanks afterwards. The pacing is rushed to tell the full narrative. This fine by me if it means telling a more engaging story. No one wants to suddenly dive into a wookiepedia article as Palpatine explains all his friends on Kuat Drive Yards, which then have no relevance to the plot. What matters is he’s back and the galaxy needs to stop him.
- Every person I talk to about this movie has a different head canon regarding how he was brought back. I’m not saying it can’t be explained, I’m saying the movie doesn’t give an explanation. I’ve heard other people say that they thought the ROTJ emperor was a clone. I’ve heard other people theorize that all the Palpatines we’ve seen so far are clones, and the Exegol Palpatine has been pulling the strings the whole time.
2 & 3. Again, it’s vague and sloppy, and everybody seems to have different interpretations because none of it is clear. You’re saying they had the resources of the entire empire to build the fleet. Other people seem to think they only have the resources of one planet. My thinking is that they can’t have all the resources of the empire, since the empire was defeated in ROTJ. The visual dictionary offers a somewhat logical explanation about ships secretly delivering parts, but if that’s true, I don’t see why the fleet would be reliant on a navigational beacon to leave the planet. They can build hundreds of Death Star lasers, but they can’t put navigation computers on the ships? Clearly all the transports bringing supplies had the capability to navigate all the cosmic hazards surrounding Exegol, so it seems like it would be easy to transfer that capability to the Star destroyers. Rey sends the data from the holochron to the rebels and they send it to all the ships that show up at the end. They all leave the planet with no issues. Since the Sith eternal already have this navigation data, by the movie’s own rules, it should be super easy to just enter it into the computers on the ships.
I also don’t get the point of all the secrecy. The First Order rose from empire loyalists who were already loyal to Palpatine. Ben Solo was a Vader fanboy, you think he’d be overjoyed to find out he was serving Palpatine.
The explosion was so huge, it looked like the largest pieces would be the size of city blocks. The piece we see in the ocean is so huge, the equatorial trench and part of the dish are still intact. We literally saw the dish while it exploded, and none of the pieces flying off were big enough to match the piece we see in the ocean.
So you think Palpatine made the dagger? I thought Ochi went to Exegol to speak to Palpatine before killing Rey’s parents? Why wouldn’t he have the holochron with him? Wouldn’t he need it on his ship to get to Exegol? Still doesn’t explain why the dagger is shaped to match the skyline of the wreckage. Wreckage which is probably shifting over time. Why doesn’t Palpatine just say “find my throne room in the wreckage. The holochron’s in there.” Why even bother with the dagger?
Hux doesn’t need to save Poe and Finn. He can let them be killed and he can continue to send info to the resistance. It’s just there to be a cheap twist and a way for the heroes to escape, but it doesn’t really make sense when you think about it.
I remembered a few more: Rey flies the X-wing despite it being submerged underwater for years. Palpatine’s force lightning is now powerful enough to take out an entire fleet. Why does he even need Star Destroyers? Why does he tell Kylo to kill Rey if he was planning on taking her body? How does Rey hear the voices of all those Jedi if, canonically, the only Jedis who could become Force ghosts are Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Luke, Yoda, and Leia? Why does Rey remember seeing Ochi’s ship leave Jakku? I thought the ship in the flashback was leaving her behind. Did Ochi put her on Jakku? I thought Ochi was supposed to kill her.