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#71950
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"Die, Jedi scum!" - SW Episode II
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71950/action/topic#71950
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
I'm trying to post-produce the deleted extended dialogue from the Obi-Wan/Vader duel, just to see what it would have looked like and it is taking forever.

Deleted Obi-Wan/Vader dialogue? I've never heard of this before! What is it?

Magnolia: I hope you can concoct a good way of reinserting the political part of the picnic scene, "Well, if it works..." Great stuff. And a question on Dooku's saber, had you always intended it to be a 'flamsaber', like in the early Episode II rumors, or did it just evolve into being an easier special effect than a solid yellow blade?

Everyone I've shown your edits too (myself included of course) is eagerly anticipating the next installment on the MagnoliaFan Saga!
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#67972
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67972/action/topic#67972
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Originally posted by: adlai
I watched half of the phantom menace edit. I'm not sure if I like it though, because, and this isn't entirely magnoliafan's fault, there's no humor in the alien conversations that so permeates the OT. but to make things worse, the dialogue that's written in for the characters isn't well written and it is a bit immature. but nice effort, just find a better writer.

Can you elaborate on this? I found the altered dialogue quite excellent.
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#67895
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Idea: About De-SEizing the DVDs... We need to Vote on Changes!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67895/action/topic#67895
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As you can tell by my votes, I tend to be more pro-SE than most on this board.

1. Shiny
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Cut the extended beginning, but keep the updated original scene
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. Cut the extended scenes, but keep the updated original scenes
12. Yes
13. No
14. Yes
15. No
16. Yes
17. Yes
18. No
19. Yes
20. Yes
21. Remove the Praxis-ring (works for Death Stars, not for planets), but keep the rest of updated explosion
22. Yes
23. Yes
24. Yes
25. Yes
26. No
27. Yes
28. Yes
29. Yes
30. Yes
31. Yes
32. Yes
33. Yes
34. Yes
35. Yes, and include ALL of it
36. Yes
37. Yes
38. Yes
39. Yes
40. Yes
41. This was NOT fixed right. SOMEONE PLEASE fix it correctly.
42. No

I'm sure a lot of my support for the SE will get shot down, but it'll be an interesting edit regardless. I'm most interested to get MagnoliaFan's opinion on this so we can get an idea of what his final saga will look like.
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#67982
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Best Movie Endings
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67982/action/topic#67982
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Well Regicidal Maniac pretty much covered it, but here are my personal favorites nonetheless (in no particular order):

The Empire Strikes Back: Irvin Kershner put it best when he said, "It gives you some sense of closure but leaves you wanting to see more."
Planet of the Apes (1968): Obviously
The Sixth Sense: Obviously
Unbreakable: Great use of the mythic Superhero/Supervillain relationship.
Terminator 2: Quite possibily the most emotional ending ever. "I know now why you cry, but that' something I can never do." Thumbs Up!
Back to the Future: "Where we're going, we don't need roads..."
Back to the Future II: "But I'm back! I'm back FROM the future!", "Great Scott!"
Back to the Future III: The flying train! Perfect way to end the series!
Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Top men..."
The Last Crusade: Riding off into the sunset...
Batman Returns: Batsignal, Catwoman, Musical Crescendo!
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#67619
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67619/action/topic#67619
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Originally posted by: Pagz
But, but, Shadows sucked so hard, while Mag's work kicks serious ass. I know, to each their own, I just didn't care for the Shadows of the Empire thing at all. I find Steve Perry to be a mediocre author at best, The game was alright, but nothing amazingly special, the new characters and the story line really did nothing for me. Psuedo Han Solo and his Psuedo Falcon just felt so forced, Xizor was lame and his whole subplot with Vader was weak. I did like the score however. Anyway, I'm rambling now, forgive me. Yay Magnolia edits!
I agree on Dash Rendar and the Outrider, blatant xerox copies of Han and the Falcon, but other than that, I found Shadows excellent. And speaking of the score, you know MF's used some of it in BotF.

Originally posted by: oojason
I really like the yellow sabre in TCW - the way it appears as almost flame-like is captivating.

Was surprised that some of C3P0's 'comedic' lines made it to the final MFE cut - it does seem out of place amongst the events that have just taken place in the arena.

I find the 'flamesaber' VERY interesting since early rumors of AotC said Dooku would wield a similar weapon. Obviously, that didn't pan out, which I agreed with. Maul's double-bladed saber is one thing, but multi-colored blades? What's next, a seven bladed rainbow-saber?

As for the droids, yes, leave them on Padme's ship.
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#67611
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67611/action/topic#67611
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Yesterday, a few of my friends and I had an uber-nerd viewing of the saga, consisting of MF's re-edits and the official OT DVDs. I'd mentioned the re-edits to them, so they were quite anxious to see these new and improves prequels; they were not disappointed (some of them even want to show their parents!). They literally applauded the opening scroll and BALANCE OF THE FORCE. When it was over, we were all in agreement that we can't wait for RotS to come out so MF could finish tweaking it and thus the OT. Just more evidence these are the best things to happen in Star Wars fandom since Shadows of the Empire!
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#67615
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I love the DVDs!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67615/action/topic#67615
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My friend C3POlreud, a new face on the boards, bought the DVDs and we had a nerd get-together yesterday tot watch the 2004 Editions. I was BLOWN AWAY with the picture quality, particualrly the upgrade in ANH. Clearing up Vader's voice was amazing too; it was like hearing new dialogue. That and the fixed lightsaber effects made the ANH duel SO much better. Aside from Luke's terrible GREEN and WHITE saber on the Falcon, all the lightsaber effects were excellent. The new Emperor scene balanced out to acceptable, but not as good as it could have been.

That said, I still hated Greedo, Jabba, the Wampa, the ESB shuttle sequence, Jedi Rocks!, and Hayden. The Hayden change could have worked if 1) He actually made eye-contact with Obi-Wan, 2) He didn't look so damn creepy, 3) The spirits started out in their original form, and then ALL THREE morphed into their younger selves.
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#66221
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Getting the word out.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/66221/action/topic#66221
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Funny you should mention it, as I am the editor of my high school newspaper, and I took the liberty of writing an article on the new DVDs. Ironic since I'm not buying them. Actually, it is kinda weird when you stop and think that we know more about the set than most people who are buying it. But I took advantage of my situation and spread the word about the not-so-original original trilogy; not to mention writing about Star Wars is obviously a piece of cake for me. Fyi, the paper goes out next week.
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#65805
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/65805/action/topic#65805
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I received my MF DVDs Saturday. Everything you've heard about how they astronomically improve the prequels and feel like authentic Star Wars movies-its all true. Thank you MagnoliaFan for making watching the backstory an enjoyable exercise rather than the painful task it once was.

Here are some thoughts and ideas I had, as I’m sure you like feedback on such an extensive project (at least I would).

BALANCE OF THE FORCE

-I like the new title and crawl. An observation though, the text seems to curve up instead of roll back. Am I just imagining this or is it a bi-product of the program you used to re-write the crawl?
-I noticed in both edits you used fades as transitions for very small cuts, like when the Republic ship is approaching the TF Battleship. This feels very un-Star Wars, and I think quick cuts would be best.
-The subtitles are genius! Great job on the Battledroids too; they would have totall slipped my mind.
-Darkening up the Sidious hologram was a good idea, but it was a little *too* dark at times.
-I love your Jar-Jar! Now the Han Solo-esque character TPM desperately needed. The Gungan/Human dynamic was great too! This makes the film SO MUCH BETTER. And the Kyber Crystal!!!!! The new explanation of the life-debt was a little confusing though.
-Are you going to keep the new Jedi Mind Trick sound throughout your saga?
-Thanks for cutting down the Bongo scenes. Now you can imagine Jar-Jar *actually* helping them navigate through the planet core as well as forget the ridiculous amount of useless monsters.
-"This deal is getting worse all the time."
-The Cantina Song!
-Watto is a much more realistic slave owner here; I actually feel bad for Anakin now, unlike before. And his extra lines came from the Episode 1 Video Game, right?
-Jake Lloyd is SO much better with all the trimmed dialogue. This really strengthens the character if Anakin.
-I don’t recall the original sequence of dialogue at the Skywalker diner, but Anakin’s “Has anybody ever seen a podrace,” which before came after an awkward silence, seems rather random in your version of the conversation.
-Removing the midichlorines was an excellent move, but is does lead to these problems:
-The scene w/Qui-Gon checking Anakin's blood could have been totally deleted, as it is totally useless now and would make the re-inserted "Good Morning" scene make a lot more sense; Anakin just stayed w/his pod all night. As it is now, Anakin wakes up outside because...?
-Again, while I disagree with the midichlorine idea, I understand while something along those lines was necessary, and it shows itself in your version. Midichlorines were made as a scale of sorts to measure Jedi. Without them, why would Qui-Gon or anyone else for that matter believe Anakin to be the Chosen One?
-And following up on that point, I actually liked the virgin birth scenario, and it would still work fine w/in the context of the film. The only line that would have to be altered would be Qui-Gon’s, “I believe he may have been conceived by the midichlorines,” which is of course absent from your version, but all that’s needed is a sound bite of Neeson saying “The Force” and problem solved. “There’s something about this boy,” should have been left in as well. As it stands now, the whole prophecy/chosen one angle is very vague.
-Adding the Imperial March to the Sith scenes is no doubt very cool, but seeing it is Vader and the Empire’s theme, it really has no place here at the beginning of the saga.
-As much as I like Sidious’ alternate line, it really doesn’t fit in with the conversation at all. If it was altered to “AND soon the Republic will be under my control,” then it would make sense. I’m sure finding a Palpatine “and” sound bite wouldn’t be too hard.
-Great job with the podrace! I always found it to be rather boring and predictable, but your re-shuffling is awesome! Another thing: I never realized before watching BotF that there was no music in TPM’s podrace. No wonder it was so bland. And until Qui-Gon mentioned the Hutts to Watto, I had totally missed your omission of Jabba. Good call; I too want him to be a mysterious crime lord until he’s finally revealed in RotJ.
-The reverse frames of Obi-Wan could be flipped to look correct.
-While the goodbye to 3P0 is an understandable cut (acting wise), it’s comparable to Anakin and Padme just taking him w/out any discussion in AotC: they need some explanation. Maybe the scene could be adeptly trimmed salvaging the required exposition while scrapping the mediocre acting.
-GREAT re-insertion of the probe droid scene, a very natural flow. I always wondered why that scene was cut.
-Question: why was Windu’s “I do not believe the Sith could have returned without us knowing” trimmed?
-In the Senate scene, you took out Palpatine’s reference to Amidala being elected. I would agree with this, but there’s also her line of, “I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die…” as well as the extensive explanation of her political history in Episode II, so there’s really no way around the goofy 14-year old elected as queen thing.
-THANK YOU SO MUCH for trimming Anakin’s ‘cuteness’ in the space battle. It is so much cooler now.
-Very clever editing of Qui-Gon’s last words as well as Obi-Wan’s debriefing with Yoda. Now it really seems as though Ben “took it upon himself to train him as a Jedi,” instead of just doing it because that’s what Qui-Gon wanted. Although his drastic opinion change on the issue of Anakin is a bit odd, it’s better this way.
-I see where you were going with “Always two there are…” but if you were going to alter it, I think it would have been best to cut it down even more to, “Always two there are, a master, and an apprentice,” (like in the trailer!). “No less” seems silly w/out “no more.” (actually, the both sound silly, anyway!)

THE CLONE WAR

-Again, nice job with the new crawl, but the same technical glitch as before, if I wasn’t just imagining it that is.
-As for the title, I personally think “Dark Force Rising” would have been PERFECT for Episode II, as the future army of the Empire is created, Palpatine gains even more power, and the darkside is warping and taking over the Force from the Jedi. “The Clone War” doesn’t really start until the end of the film. But that’s just me…J
-Your editing of Anakin is again EXCELLENT, and he is a much stronger character because of it.
-Removing the changeling reference is good, as the plot point goes nowhere. However, I would have kept in this bit of dialogue and made it a witty joke by Obi-Wan:
Anakin: I think he is a she.
Obi-Wan: In that case, be extra careful.
-Your mix and match of the Naboo scenes worked really well, though I do think the waterfall/field scene could have been salvaged. Anakin expressing his political views is a nice window into the mind of Vader. Maybe end it with “Well, it if works.”
-I have no specific idea of how to do it, but re-editing of the analysis room, Diner, library, and younglings scenes would be very beneficial to the plot. Perhaps allow the droids to identify the dart after all, deleting the Diner scene, and having the library scene segue into the END of the younglings scene. Those stupid ‘cute’ kids figuring out something that should have been so obvious makes Obi-Wan look like an idiot. And the Diner is too much CGI and too 1950s; good riddance.
-If only the Lost Twenty scenes were available, those would be great to re-incorporate…
-On Kamino, when Obi-Wan surveys the Clonetroopers, I never understood why the Trade Federation March was used. The Imperial March would be PERFECT here.
-Why did you delete Jango’s reference to “Tyranus”? The name will have to be used in RotS, and it was never mentioned again in AotC, so what harm could it do?
-Is there a movie where Liam Neeson yells, “Noooooooo!” If so, the sound clip MUST be found and replace the HORRENDOUS impression heard by Yoda.
-As with young Anakin, trimming Boba’ lines helped a lot.
-I LOATHE the Droid Factory stuff, especially with 3P0 and R2. I would have left them on the ship, ending their plot with 3P0’s, “If they wanted our help they would have asked for it.” And as soon as Anakin and Padme get pushed out the door, have them be captured by Jango and the Geonosians.
-Something has to be done with Padme’s “I truly, deeply, love you.” Maybe just, “I love you”?
-Mace’s entrance in the arena is actually a shock now instead of, “Oh look, there’s Mace.” Clever edit.
-Dooku: I like how you made him just a rogue Jedi and not a Sith. After all he does say, “My Jedi powers are far beyond yours.” As for his saber, do you remember the rumors that he was to wield a flame-saber? Well, that’s exactly what it looks like in your version. The yellow doesn’t cover up all of the red, which makes for a very strange effect. Perhaps purple would work better? Not only technically, but symbolically as well. Dooku is a mix of Jedi and Sith: purple is a mix blue and red. And no, this wouldn’t mean Windu was evil. Actually, I always thought Yoda would have been best served with a yellow saber.
-Although the Dooku/Sidious scene was cool, it’s understandable why you cut it for your version. Not to mention it makes Dooku’s motives far less confusing.
-But why the re-shuffling of Clonetrooper footage on Coruscant?

As you can see, when I get into something I REALLY get into something. And MF, when I make suggestions on stuff, I’m just kind of bouncing it off you to see what you think, not necessarily saying it would be better. I have video editing aspirations myself and someday hope to acquire the technology to create such projects, so this sort of things really does pique my interest. Again, thanks for being such a hard-working fan. I can’t wait for RotS to come out so we can see your versions of Episodes III-VI!
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#65793
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I have been taken by the dark side
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/65793/action/topic#65793
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It seems like the new ESB hologram is too old. He looks younger in RotJ.

And that is really bad that they got the lightsaber color wrong... DID SOMEONE NOT PROOF-WATCH THESE DVDs before sending them out onto the market?

All my friends who are buying the DVDs think I'm crazy for not getting them as well. Boy are they in for a surprise. I got my 7-Disc set from TR47 last week thank you very much; no need for this crap.

I just can't believe they get waste their time on stupid stuff like Dewbacks, Diaognas, and Wampas, and when it comes time to fix something actually in need of an update, like the Emperor and the lightsabers, they TOTALLY botch it. Luke's lightsaber is GREEN?!?!? I guess the ILM employees who touched up ANH had only seen RotJ. I really am worried about the rumors of Vader's PINK saber now; these idiots are capable of anything. And the Emperor? It really is sad when an old woman, a chimpanzee, and a voice actor do a far superior job than the guy who plays Palpatine in the rest of the saga.
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#65407
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Fan Made Star Wars DVD set???
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/65407/action/topic#65407
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TR47: http://www.ioffer.com/bi/tr47--Star-Wars-ORIGINAL-NON-SE-Trilogy-4-DVD-Set-w-Bonus--1.1-0.3-3630790

I received mine last week (the 7-Disc Collection), and was more than satisfied. All the vintage special features were a great bonus! Of course, these are the original versions of the films, so if you're looking for the SEs, these are not for you. I recommend it anyway, though.
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#63218
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2004 DVD, Changes in Sound?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63218/action/topic#63218
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Please, let it be true!

Vader's breathing and voice effects in ANH have always bugged the hell out of me; it's just so garbled and totally inconsistent with ESB and RotJ (and surely RotS). Like the colorless and jumpy lightsabers, this really dates the film. With these things finally being improved, the saga will look and flow much better.
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#63064
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Episode III on EBAY?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63064/action/topic#63064
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You know, they could have tried a little harder to make it look more authentic. Paramount? Come on, at least read the DVD template you used to make your lousy cover art and notice the 20TH CENTURY FOX LOGO (or better yet be a real fan and know that anyway). Oh, and I'm sure a couple of AotC pictures will be on the back too, not to mention the entire text being for the Episode 2 DVD (the capitalized ATTACK OF THE CLONES is a big giveaway). And those posters...The Mask of Evil?
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#63058
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BaseBall talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63058/action/topic#63058
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Originally posted by: Windexed
With new stars in Ramirez, Lee, Garciapparra, ect. - Sammy has just gotten lost in the shuffle. Bossk is totally right though, there's no way they could move him with that salary ,unless it was to some place like Baltimore who like to overpay for past-their-ptime veterans.
Don't forget Arizona.

The Streak Continues: The Astros now have TWELVE straight wins!!!!!!!!!!!!