Coldblackice

Is it possible to merely "copy" an MKV's encoding settings found in its file information and use those same settings to rip from the original source again, resulting in an MKV of the same quality?

For example --

Person A and Person B both have the same exact bluray that they want to rip.

Person A rips the bluray into an MKV. Person B wants to mimic the quality of Person A's ripped MKV, so Person B looks in the A's MKV's info, finds the settings:

-Writing application (mkvmerge v5.8.0)
-Writing library (libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0)
-Writing library (x264 core 125 r2200 999b753)
-Encoding settings (cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 ...)
-Bitrate (5000Kbps)

And then seeks to use the same programs and settings on his rip of the bluray.

Would this work?

In other words, is the encoding information that's stored in A's MKV enough for someone to mimic themselves and get the same quality rip? Or is there some "magic" or "flourish" that wouldn't show up in an MKV's info, which could drastically vary the quality of the rip?

Does anyone have any of the extras/bonus material from either the Target or Best Buy discs?

Ahhh, I just discovered something I wasn't aware of -- The enhanced commentary isn't "just" commentary!

I was under the impression it was merely an audio track that lined up with the original movie timing, much like most movie's commentary tracks. However, it's actually an "interactive" movie, so to speak, with the commentators pausing the movie and drawing/diagramming things on the screen. So it wouldn't really be feasible to strip merely the audio track and fuse it into the original bluray rip.

Unless anyone has any ideas, I guess this means we just have to keep the two separate movies? I've wondered if perhaps there's some trickery possible of "fusing" the two tracks of video, so that you can have the option of watching the commentary-edition and have it actively inject the commentary clips of movie-pausing and diagramming. But I imagine something like this wouldn't be possible, or at least feasible.

digitalfreaknyc said:

 

Harmy said:

Wow, 5 hours of footage on an mpeg2 DVD5, that can't possibly look remotely good. But to each their own of course :-)

Agreed.

I'm more than willing to share the commentary track with DRM removed. But, as I said, you have to re-encode it.

 

Out of curiosity, what format is it in? And how big?

Additionally, what do any of you guys use to rip extras from bonus discs? I'd guess it's a combination of MakeMKV + some type of encoding software, like Handbrake?

I'm most curious about software and particular settings you may use.

Harmy said:

Yeah, the word trade kind of implies that you're expecting something in return, hence the confusion. I would personally prefer all the bonus material in a folder as mp4s or mkvs, so that I can just put it on a BD disc alongside an mkv of the movie with the commentary added, which I want to make for myself but other may prefer something else. Another factor is that to create a DVD, you'd have to re-compress the already compressed files and so you'd downgrade them further, especially with MPEG2 DVD encoding.

I second Harmy's proposal -- I've already ripped an mkv of the bluray, and would love to add in the commentary tracks and bonus material.

Any update on this?

BillyBoy said:

Yes. Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean to imply I would only share it with others if it was a 1-on-1 trade. I was pointing out that I planned to make my own custom 2-disc DVD  version in standard def, and would be willing to trade it with others.  As for the files themselves,  I would be happy to torrent any files that someone needs.  :-)

Ah, gotcha :) And that would be terrific! I can do likewise with the pieces you mentioned.

PS -- Great avatar, by the way :D

BillyBoy said:

 

Here's the latest news from me:  Someone was nice enough to PM me with a link to a recoded DRM-free version of the itunes enhanced commentary, so I created my own custom DVD of Star Trek Into Darkness where you can play the movie with or without commentary. I have it saved as a 4.35GB ISO file.

I would be happy to trade with others, but keep in mind it's a standard definition DVD with over 4 hours of movie on it (both versions of Into Darkness), so don't expect anything stunning graphic-wise.

I have managed to track down all the extras from the Target, Best Buy, and standard blu-ray releases except for three featurettes: "Attack on Starfleet" (5:25),  "Brawl By the Bay" (5:44), and "Continuing the Mission" (1:29)

If someone has ripped these three featurettes and can provide me with copies of them, I can create a second custom DVD disc that contains all the commercially available bonus material, plus some other stuff like the trailers and the deleted shower scene.  I would also be happy to re-torrent that, or trade with others.

I'm happy just having my own custom 2-disc DVD for now,  as I don't have a blu-ray burner anyway. But I look forward to the day someone is able to create a definitive blu-ray version of this movie that has  EVERYTHING on it.

 

 

I've got these.

Would you mind sharing the iTunes commentary (in its own file, not within the whole movie's ISO)?

I think the others were confused with the wording of "trade", implying that it would not be shared except by a 1-for-1 "trade".

(but correct me if I'm wrong and that's what was meant)

BillyBoy said:

 

I'm really surprised that I haven't seen ANY of the bonus content or special features being torrented anywhere on the internet yet. The film has been out on video for quite a while and the best you can get via download is the basic blu-ray release. I hope you guys succeed on this forum succeed in making a custom version with the Target/Best Buy/iTunes stuff, because it doesn't seem to be floating around anywhere else.

I've been likewise surprised. It seems this project may be dead in the water :/

Anyone find the Canadian sources?

Any update?

<p><p><blockquote><p><strong>DVD-BOY</strong> said:</p><blockquote><br /><p><strong>digitalfreaknyc</strong> said:</p><br /><p> </p><br /><blockquote><br /><p><strong>DVD-BOY</strong> said:</p><br /><blockquote><br /><br /><strong>Coldblackice</strong> said:<br /><br />I have some of the bonus features ripped, which I could help assist with anyone who's tackling the collective compilation.<br /></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Have you got the Canadian Best But extras?  They are the only ones I have missing.</blockquote><br /><br /><br />Do you have the deleted scenes?<br /><p> </p><br /></blockquote><br /><p>I don't think anyone has them - not any release I have seen.</p><br /><p>I have the enhanced commentary from iTunes, and the Target Bonus Disc, and I'm still trying to get hold of the Best Buy Canada Bonus Disc.</p></blockquote><p> </p><br /><br />


Where'd you locate the iTunes commentary?


EDIT:


Why is my "reply with quote" butchering the quotes, showing the cold html?

<blockquote><p><strong>DVD-BOY</strong> said:</p><blockquote>
<p><strong>Coldblackice</strong> said:</p>
<p>I have some of the bonus features ripped, which I could help assist with anyone who's tackling the collective compilation.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Have you got the Canadian Best But extras?  They are the only ones I have missing.</p></blockquote><p> </p>

Nope :/ Where'd you find the other miscellaneous features (short of Canadian features)?

I have some of the bonus features ripped, which I could help assist with anyone who's tackling the collective compilation.

<blockquote><p><strong>DVD-BOY</strong> said:</p><blockquote>
<p><strong>digitalfreaknyc</strong> said:</p>
<p>My Canadian best buy disc is coming on Saturday. That will complete my extras. :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hi DFNYC,</p>
<p>How's it coming along? Were you planning on sharing this project when complete?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>DVD-BOY</p></blockquote><p> </p>

Also curious on this! :)

bkev said:

The timing should be identical for the soundmixes regarding the 2004 track and the blue one. It's just an issue of 5.1 vs 7.1, if you care at all.

My choice is the '97 edition and I'm waiting on DJ's upscale.

Ya, I wouldn't mind using 5.1. How would you splice it in without getting a "pop" or crack or any kind of distortion between the cuts?

And what's DJ's upscale? I tried searching, but it's not working (not sure if it's me or the server).

Any updates on this? Anyone know of any fan edits where Vader's "Noooo" has been wiped?

I'm contemplating just ripping my bluray myself, then trying to splice in old sound. I'm wagering that I'm going to have a hard time laying it in seamlessly, however. But perhaps it's better than simply not watching RotJ bluray (which I still refuse to do, prohibiting my precious childhood memory banks of nostalgia from being overwritten with digital blasphemy :) )

Thanks for the ideas fellas.

I agree that it's still suffering with the other parts (like Hayden), but not quite like the thousand-years-of-being-digested suffering to hear that "NOOOO".

Anyway, I went ahead and am currently watching the HDTV version.

Fingers crossed on a future blu-day!! :)

I’m about to watch ROTJ’s bluray. I’ve dragged my feet as long as possible, hoping that some of the jedi-editers would scrape something together that even faintly resembles past ROTJ goodness of yester-year. But it seems that most are tired and burned out on their previous DVD releases (and rightly so!).

Question – is it possible for me to get rid of Vader’s new “NOOOOOO”? I guess if all else fails, I can just mute it, but I am so terrified of even hearing it ONCE that I’ll have to mute a good chunk before and after, ruining the scene.

I’ve googled for what it would take for me to remux in the sound track for that scene from another release, but I feel I would surely botch it.

Any ideas? All I really care about is just never ever hearing that nooo during that scene, forever tainting it 😕