I’m sure she agrees with us that it should be released. I mean, honestly, who but GL could really be against it? It’s frankly silly.
Well, besides GL, I can think of a few moronic posters on that other message board that are against it…
I agree with Kathleen 100% on this one!
Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be
skip to around the 2:50 mark
The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.
The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.
At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it.
Well, I dont know - the way the interviewer phrased it she could have taken that as if he was talking about future changes to the movies. So I’m not sure if that told us anything one way or the other. A wasted opportunity by the interviewer
Certainly, but she has great respect, and affection for her former boss. “They will always be his films”. Releasing the OOT without consulting George Lucas would be incredibly disrespectful.
Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed the 4K restoration is the SE, and was started under Lucas’ watch.
The Disney restoration people have confirmed the negative is still conformed to the SE.
At this point all we know is, that Lucasfilm and Disney are preserving all Star Wars related material, which would include the surviving OOT material. So, a release is technically possible at some point in the future, but I wouldn’t bet on any time soon.
Yes, but perhaps George really doesn’t care if they release the OOT along side his preferred cuts. He seemed to soften on his stance about that before Disney bought it anyway.
That being said - yeah I agree with you. I dont have much hope left either.
I just wish someone would ask them directly so we would know.
Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be
skip to around the 2:50 mark
The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.
The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.
At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it.
Well, I dont know… The way the interviewer phrased it and the manor in which she responded makes me believe she might not have understood exactly what he was asking and that she was only talking about future changes to the movies. So I’m not sure if that told us anything one way or the other.
A wasted opportunity by the interviewer, for sure. Just ask something direct like “is there a possibility of releasing the original, theatrical versions as they existed before the 97 SE’s.”
I wish I could be a little more optimistic, but after more than 10 years since the release of the GOUT, and 5 years of Disney ownership, we’re seemingly still in exactly the same place we were in 2006.
Any optimism I had, left when celebration ended without the slightest hint of an OOT release. At this point I will just assume it’s not going to happen, and let myself be pleasantly surprised if it does happen, rather than assume it will happen, and be disappointed for the umpteeth time.
Fool me once, shame on…, shame on you,…if you fool me can’t get fooled again…
This is where I’m at. I’ve pretty much lost all confidence in Lucasfilm/Disney at this point and would be pretty shocked if they announced something next month.
I do find it curious though that Mike Verta has been so quiet lately. Not that I expect them to actually use his restoration but he obviously knows more than the rest of us, since he has supposedly been in contact with people at Disney and Fox recently, and would therefore have a little bit better idea about which way the wind is blowing there…
I’ve got three kids - 7, 5, & 3. I’m pretty conservative about what I show them. They rarely watch tv, and then I only show them certain movies.
But that being said, they have all seen the OT multiple times and were fine during all 3 movies. I didn’t have a problem showing them the violent stuff, just going off my own experiences when I was a kid. They didn’t seem to be bothered at all, and I’m pretty sure they didn’t even notice charred Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru (it’s a quick shot anyway).
But you know your kids better than anyone, obviously…
Also, here are some of their other favorites, just FYI:
its a solid poster. Much better than the typical Marvel crap.
I would love to see hollywood use hand-painted designs again, but I really like this one. It’s definitely a departure from the generic style that is used in all blockbuster movies these days.
Not sure if want to watch the trailer. I heard there is a relatively big reveal at the end?
I’m dying to hear the slightest bit of good or bad news from MVerta right now. He’s been too quiet lately…
It is ridiculous how many people here are upset and surprised. This was completely expected.
This. Actually even if they were releasing the OOT I’m not sure they would choose the celebration panel to announce it in the first place.
It wasn’t the original yub nub. Someone posted it on twitter. It was actually a remix version that I’ve never heard before and I assume was done for celebration.
I really don’t see any chance they even mention the OOT at this panel. Especially with George there.
How can I watch this again? Youtube?
yes, there will be a link on the front page at starwars.com
Nice. I like this way better than the official posters.
Mark Hamill would be the big one to tweet to if you’re looking for people to help spread the word. Good luck with that though. Sadly, I have a feeling he would remain silent on the issue.
Okay, cool kids who do the twitter thing, depending on which way the wind is blowing tomorrow, who do we tweet a response at? Disney, Lucasfilm, or both?
I’m thinking of saving the open letter thing for the actual 40th anniversary next month.
@DisneyLucasfilm @starwars @Disney @20thcenturyfox
I didn’t hear anything that implied there would be a big announcement. Their mention of “surprises” was simple marketing speech and and could mean any number of things: special appearances from cast and crew, video tribute for Carrie, gifts for attendees, etc.
I will be shocked if there is any mention of the OOT during the panel or the entire celebration.
Yeah, no reason to target 35+, as I am only 18, and I love this site.
Having an official facebook page would be really really nice, someone should definitely do that.
They were asking specifically about placing an ad. We are dealing with 10’s of millions of people. Yes, of course there are lots of young people that would love the OOT. But you have to narrow it down, because you obviously can’t reach everybody on facebook that likes star wars (unless you have about $175,000 you would like to donate). In order to stretch ad dollars and target the most concentrated group of OOT fans, you have to target gen-x’ers.
Social media is probably our best bet in 2017.
Is there an original trilogy facebook page? It might be worth it to create a page and then you can run a newsfeed ad. You can target only people who like pages related to Star Wars, and I would narrow it down further to people over the age of 35 or maybe even a bit older as that is still a lot of people.
I just checked and there are currently 8.2 million people on facebook in the US who are over 35 and specifically like Star Wars pages.
Would it be Disney in charge of restoring Star Wars material or Lucasfilm? If it’s the latter then I’m not sure that what Gluck says would even matter. That, and we don’t even know what question he was answering. Better to just reserve all expectations until April rather than go in optimistic or pessimistic.
I agree. I don’t doubt that Gluck knows what he’s talking about, but he wouldn’t be the one to spill the beans if this is actually happening. To my knowledge he didn’t say anything about whether or not restorationists are or have been working on this stuff.
He essentially only confirmed, that the negative of Star Wars is still conformed to the SE. He mentions nothing about the scans of the SE negative or the OOT elements. In other words a digital reconstruction of the OOT can exist, or can be reconstructed, while the physical negative is still conformed to the SE, and the OOT elements are in storage.
^This
The digital bits article basically told us nothing.
There is also a reputable poster on the blu-ray forums that says he knows for a “100% fact” that Disney is in the process of or has already finished scanning at 4k every single scrap of Star Wars film in their possession.
Now, I’m sure that’s pretty standard for Disney for archival purposes, and it obviously doesn’t mean they are working on an OOT, but at least it’s something…
One thing Bill Hunt disregards in his latest post is that an OOT restoration might not be based on the o-neg.
It could be that, like Blade Runner, the o-neg will be used for the current version but other sources (like interpositives and separation masters) could be used for the unaltered versions. This would still produce something much better looking than any fan-restoration could hope to achieve with a 35mm print.
I’m certainly no expert on this. But couldnt they just scan all of the original elements that were cut out of the negatives separately and then digitally reassemble the original cut? I’m just trying to understand why the current state of the o-negs would rule out that an OOT restoration has taken place, as Bill firmly believes.
Not sure what to make of this. Bill Hunt posted another article and does not believe it is happening, based on what Disney’s Director of Restoration had to say at a recent event.
http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/022417-0100
We pretty much already knew that about the original negatives, and I dont think those comments rule out an OOT release anyway as Bill seems to think. Seems like they would just scan all the cut elements separately and make a digital edit? But we really need more info here - what exactly the question was and how this Disney guy responded. He obviously wouldnt be able to give anything away if there was a release planned so he may have just been trying to answer like a politician without lying. Who knows. This is beyond frustrating…
I doubt that Disney or Lucasfilm would ever release Mike Verta’s project.
How do you know?
I’m not aware of a major studio ever accepting something like that, especially since they have access to much better material and a whole department of people to work on it, let alone releasing it.
But nothing like this has ever been attempted before and its not like Legacy is just some amateur scan of a release print. We are talking about a serious restoration here. Yes, with original elements I’m sure a proper restoration could achieve slightly better results, but with Disney’s track record that is not exactly a guarantee.
I imagine the biggest hurdle for Mike is simply getting in touch with the right person that would actually take the time to look at his work and who also has the influence within the company to make something happen.
I doubt that Disney or Lucasfilm would ever release Mike Verta’s project.
I’d love to see Verta’s project, but I’m not sure I want to see it as the official release. It looks better than the original film did, and I just want to see a good restoration of the original matte work from Lucasfilm.
Huh? Mike Verta’s project is a restoration of the original film. What else would you want?
