Chewtobacca

Chewtobacca said:

RLM explained that it wouldn't make sense for Anakin to construct Threepio to help Shmi by observing that a protocol droid wouldn't be much use in the home.

That's his personal opinion. Where did he observe that?

 

It's the part where he quotes Threepio saying that he's not much more than an interpreter and says he doesn't say he washes dishes.  Watch the review again.  RLM does explain why he doesn't think that a protocol droid would be useful for Shmi.

Chewtobacca said:

If Lucas has to have Anakin build one of the two droids, it is more logical for him to build Artoo (to help himself)

But he didn't build the droid to help himself at the store, but his mother at home.

I know that.  I already said that if a Protocol droid wouldn't help his mother and Lucas wanted Anakin to build a droid, a more logical scenario was the one I outlined.

Alexrd said:

Chewtobacca said:

a ruler might reasonably be expected to have more use for an interpreter than a mechanical droid on a day-to-day basis.

R2 served the queen on a day-to-day basis?! Where? And I thought they only met on the ship after he did a task that he was built to do.

I never said that Artoo did.  I was outlining an alternative more logical scenario in which Anakin constructs Artoo in the films and the Queen is in possession of Threepio because she has a need for a protocol droid as a translator to help with her diplomatic functions.

TheBoost said:

Since at no point in TPM is there even a hint of what work Shmi does as a slave, I don't see how any argument could be made about what droid is more appropriate.

Although if they had been switched, I could hear this argument being made by RLM.

"What good is a spaceship mechanic droid to a slave? Wouldn't R2 make much more sense belonging to Padme, who actually owns spaceships?"

That's fair enough, but I was saying I think it makes more sense if Anakin didn't construct a droid for Shmi at all.  (Whatver work she does as a slave, protocol seems an unlikely requirement.)  Anakin constructs Artoo for himself --  not because he needs one, but because he likes to make make things. 

RLM explained that it wouldn't make sense for Anakin to construct Threepio to help Shmi by observing that a protocol droid wouldn't be much use in the home.  If Lucas has to have Anakin build one of the two droids, it is more logical for him to build Artoo (to help himself) and have Threepio belong to the Queen, whom he can help with negotiations.  While Artoo certainly proved useful on the Queen's ship, a ruler might reasonably be expected to have more use for an interpreter than a mechanical droid on a day-to-day basis.

That's fine.  I have Belbucus' PCM.  I'll convert it to high bitrate AC-3 2.0, speed it up for the PAL version and upload it.  Job done!  :-)

Darth Mallwalker said:

 

Chewtobacca said:

I'll just use Belbucus' stereo PCM re-encoded to AC-3, unless people really want his 5.1 upmix. :-)

Wee bit confused here, since Belbucus didn't do a 5.1 (did he?)
Were you thinking of applying prologic algorithms yourself to Belbucus' PCM?

On the off-chance you're looking at the 5.1 upmix posted to usenet 544 days, be aware it's hairy_hen's not Belbucus', and it's obsolete, superseded...

 

You're a wee bit confused because I was even more confused. :-)  I did indeed think that hairy_hen's 5.1 mixes were from Belbucus, and I didn't realize that they had been superseded.  (I wasn't thinking of upmixing the PCM myself.) 

Where can I find satanika's new upmix?  When I have it, I'll speed it up for Harmy so it fits the PAL video.

That's good.  I just like to make sure to avoid treading on people's toes.  :-)

EDIT:  Yep!  Belbucus gives permission.   That's cool then.

This is all assuming Belbucus gives permission.  I'll have to PM him.  Would you want the 5.1 or the 2.0?  I take it your PAL version will be a DVD-9?

I routinely put a feature film with an AC-3 5.1 track at 448kbps on a DVD-5 -- -- as Adywan did with his ESB restoration -- with no significant detriment to the video (compared to using 2.0 at 192 bps). 

Could you maybe make an AC3 with PAL speedup and the same bitrate you'd be using and up it somewhere for me, so I can use it too, it would be nice to have a higher bitrate audio than the GOUT and to have the same audio on both PAL and NTSC versions.

That's easily done, so yes to both! :-)

I can make this fit a DVD-5 when I re-encode it: don't worry.  It will look fine.  I think I'll just use Belbucus' stereo PCM re-encoded to AC-3, unless people really want his 5.1 upmix.  :-)

Got it!  '93 DC mix PCM   Well, that was easy...  Thanks, DM!

I don't want the combined maximum bitrate to spike and go over 10080 or some players might not play the disc.   (The maximum bitrate of any MPEG-2 stream I encode always appears to read as higher than the value I input, when I view it in DVD Lab Pro's bitrate viewer).  Perhaps I will convert the PCM to AC-3.  I'll ask Belbecus for permission to use this too.

Harmy said:  Or if Chewtobacca says he can't do it that way, I ask anyone who has the NTSC GOUT to please extract and upload the audio somewhere.

That might be best.  Did Belbucus make a mix sychronized to the NTSC GOUT?  I have the NTSC GOUT for ANH and ESB, but I have only the PAL GOUT for ROTJ because its video quality is higher.  While I could speed up the PAL GOUT or use the PDE audio, it would be better not to use a re-encoding of the PAL audio.

I just remembered that we talked earlier in the thread about using audio synchronized to the NTSC GOUT with the sped up PAL version of this, so we could have good audio for the NTSC conversion.  Which do I use and where do I find it? :-)

Sluggo said:

@Chew I'm amazed how many Sluggo oddities there are out there.

I agree!  Merry Xmas.

Warbler said:

Even though we are having problems on here at the moment,  I still think we can wish each other a Merry Christmas.

I think so too.  Merry Christmas to everyone! :-)

thx fink

Sorry, Sluggo!  I was just teasing you.  No offence was intended.

Unsurprisingly, I am! :-D

Harmy said:Actually, if someone'd like to convert the PAL version to NTSC for me, it would make me very happy.

As long as it's a straight forward conversion -- i.e. it doesn't present the problems that Returning to Jedi presented -- I'll do it.  Thank you for the Christmas present.  :-)

Promising indeed!  Converted or not, that snippet looks really good.  I am surprised by how good this looks, considering.  Thanks, Fritz!

Sluggo said:

@Chew

Sluggo^                                       ^Chew

Leguman said: Whatever I think for myself I'm taking a note of your post.

:-)

Leguman said:  Lie or truth is secondary question: the way this affair has been exposed was a mistake.  I think what you perceive as condescendance is rather passion.

I have to disagree.  I can perceive when you are passionate about something, but it's your way of presenting your judgment (in bold above) as a fact, and acting as if people are foolish because they do not make the some judgment or have the same priorities, that comes across as condescension.  This, in my opinion, is what needs to change for you to get along better with people.  Just a thought!  We had both better stay on topic now though.  :-)

Leguman said: I can't believe my posts are so badly understood even if I'm not from English culture.

I think people understand your attitude, even if they do not always understand everything you write.  Your posts come across as condescending. In the past I have tended to give you the benefit of the doubt, even when you have obviously been annoying others, but your posts in this thread have really set my teeth on edge, to the point where you are one step away from my ignore list.  Please think about how you respond to other people, especially in situations such as this.

Regarding the situation with Dayv, I didn't donate because I didn't feel that I was in a position to know whether he has cancer or not, which is still how I feel.  I wish him good health, because either way I cannot go wrong with that.

Sluggo said: Nancy, look at sluggo's butt

fixed

doubleofive said:

 

No amount of settings on TVs could fix the colors. You'd have to go in scene by scene to fix them, which Ady had to do for his AVCHD releases of 4 and 5.

 

Yes; I have tried to tweak colors by changing the settings on my TV before but it doesn't work well at all.  The colors of these Blu-rays will look as bad as the 2004 DVDs.  What I don't understand is how Adywan knows what the colors will look like on a TV when he is viewing them on a PC in RGB.

TV's Frink said:

@chew "yes i no"? which iz it?

fink it's the one in laplandia

http://www.maplandia.com/russia/moscovskaya-oblast/noginskiy-rayon/yesino/

Reason: can you edit a twit?

just jar jar boinx

@chew was just sayin scuse me after sneeze dats all

yes i no