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#1403196
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The Dark Knight: Retribution (WIP)
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Damn, what a nice approach. Despite always liked Batman begins and the dark knight, i’ve had trouble with them in some cases. will definitely follow your work. batman begins edit seem to be near perfect for me, personally. But of course have to take a watch first, when it’s finished.

if you get the deepfake of holmes right, that would be awesome! but i think it’ll be very hard due to the amount of scenes the character gets in the dark knight.

the color correction is dope.
will you level the same color correction to the other two edits?

What kind of encode will you use? h.265? which filesize you’re targeting? which audio track formats?

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#1403195
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Game of Thrones: Restored, Restructured, Rewatchable (Released)
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Very interesting. Don’t know how i feel about the loose ends regarding the south but the source material is as you stated unbearable.
Would be interested to see this edit, if you want to share it.

Since Jamie didn’t run away from winterfell, therefore you cutted his capture and the lovely dialogue between him and tyrion, right? i’ve always loved it but understand the compromises that had to be made.

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#1402573
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:

RogueLeader said:
I agree that if you could cite or mute his line, asking for her help, might alleviate the whiplash feeling you get when he says moments later “I had it under control!” I mean, I know this is whiny Anakin we’re talking about here, but still.

Good shout, might see if I can remove that.

that line, “You wouldn’t have made it as Obi-Wan’s padawan, but you might make it as mine” would be a bit of a shame to lose.

I could maybe play that line over the two of them as they walk away, see if that works.

That would be fantastic. There have been raised valid point regarding the speed of him accepting her. If you could alter the original that way, great 😃

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#1402201
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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sade1212 said:
I think my vote would be for option 2. I’ve obviously already made my case for Malevolence coming before Cloak, but I also think that your edit of Malevolence is a little stronger than Cloak, so it has that going for it too. I’m still totally onboard with the very early Death Watch stuff though, especially since that’s a quality episode to hook people in.

totally agree, here

EddieDean said:
Do we really need to see much of them? Like, what if we started with a cold open, ‘at the beginning of the clone war’, and saw Domino Squad simply win their final challenge in Clone Cadets - without facing/overcoming adversity first - and then have Hevy thank Ninety-Nine for his support. And then ‘present day’-it straight into ARC Troopers.

The problem i’ve with this is: they’re already a sidekick (the squad as a whole) in this show, if we jump right into there final exam, we wouldn’t be able to connect to the squad emotionally as we do if we see them fail twice (and kind of rooting for them) and therefore to the single members of it, later (fives, ninety-nine).

Although i can partially agree with that:

EddieDean said:
Part of the reason I think this might be more additive than subtractive is because, to be frank, some of the elements in Clone Cadets are a bit weird. Brick the bounty hunter dislikes Domino Squad enough that he assaults a clone and tries to force a reaction. At least three of the five in Domino Squad actively try to leave the squad. And we see them begin in an extremely sloppy way, but improve over only a couple of days into what Shaak Ti calls “possibly the best clone squad I’ve ever seen”, just because they learned team work and creativity? Are their various eccentricities really some perfect venn diagram that results in a really optimal team? And isn’t that mooted by the fact that we never see Domino Squad act as a squad again after ARC Troopers?

Maybe you could cut something of it (perhaps brick the bounty hunter, „possibly the best clone squad…“) . I think especially beside their training and them in their quarters, we get some nice scenes were they’re more humanized (e.g. - forget the name of the disabled clone - if i’m not mistaken fives stood up for him?).
So a suggestion, if possible, would be to cut around the squad members that do appear again.

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#1401846
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:

What it achieved was having Plo convey the information to the fleet that the Malevolence has an ion cannon, which they depend on as they plan their attack. Though there are simpler ways to do that. It also showed a bit more of Grievous’ singlemindedness and a bit more brutality.

CMMAP, what did you think of the ending? I wasn’t certain about going from the medical station back to the hangar so quickly, but I think the hangar scene is the right emotional conclusion for the episode, of the options available. Did everything else work for you? This was massively restructured. I’m also interested to know if it’s considered an improvement on the original three episodes, of course!

maybe it won’t destroy the flow of the episode if you show the malevolence destruction as a whole sequence with the audio overlay of plo koon explaining it?

i liked the ending. to end the episode with walking to the council meeting is great. cutting to fast from the medical station to the hangar didn’t concern me, personally. the whole sequences at the medical station are disposable, i think.

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#1401825
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:

s01e04 - MALEVOLENCE - Review cut available

Despite your note „credits need polish“ (i assume you mean audio with it?) i only have two things:

  1. i think the intercutting of the malevolence destruction tour as plo koon describes it to ahsoka and anakin is unecessary narrative wise and it kills the flow of the episode.
  2. the visual fade out at the end feels unnatural. perhaps a hard cut would be better.
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#1401154
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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So, watched ep01 again, nothing major occurred to me aside from the known framerate issues. Again nice solution with bail organa.
My only critic would be the audio transition in a tonal way from end of episode to credits. the music tracks are to different in my opinion. Though the created track from McFibb is awesome! I would suggest try to transition to and start the outro track at 27:02 with duel of the fates.

have to watch ep03. will give feedback to that in this post.

EDIT:
watched ep03, don’t have to criticize anything from my end on this episode regarding technically and narrative. ventress as character is awesome in this episode. really cunning and dangerous.
end credits scene „cary silver“ and „dave filoni“ i would say there is too much shadow behind the text. uncomfortably to read, at least for me.

19:37/19:38 is the cut in the original that weird also? feels very abrupt.

excited to see/hear some new version for the end credit score!

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#1400108
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:

So, for those who are interested in the process, here’s my UNFINISHED attempt to turn Lair of Grievous into the end of my Cloak of Darkness episode - I got it down to a tight 5:45.

Goals:

  • Cut down as much as possible while showing that Gunray’s tracking was some kind of contingency/bonus trap
  • Make Grievous seem as badass as possible

There’s dialogue and sound effects, but no music in this yet, because I didn’t get that far.

Essentially I worked through it, first restructuring the whole, then sequences, then scenes, then I added back in anything that I felt was necessary to make it flow right or fix new continuity errors I’d introduced.

This is the point I got it to where I decided that it ultimately wasn’t going to work.

The part where I realised it wouldn’t work was when I noticed that I couldn’t have Kit Fisto leave when there were clones alive. So I had to kill them off, without using the scenes where they die (because that would have drawn this out massively). So I tried to do an implied Grievous slaughter, using a quick shot of him (legless, but hoping you wouldn’t notice) diving at the clones then some sound effects of them dying, which I embedded in another scene of the clones calling for reinforcement but their ship getting blown up. It almost worked, but I think ultimately it’s just too rough, and moves too fast. At that point, the whole episode kind of collapsed as a possibility.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oN0Cc292i4f_oaPneWiA0ZqwahYkn9De/view?usp=sharing

Edit: Whoops, I cut this a little too short. Dooku says “So there is room for improvement.” and then it ends.

Real tight, but i think it works. Have to take a look on the original episode to see the whole part again.

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#1400002
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:

CMMAP said:

@EddieDean regarding my possibly encountered frame drops in episode 2 aren’t any. The video started to stutter because of the ai enhanced upscaling of the nvidia shield pro. i watched the episode back and worth with and without it to rule it out 100%

Super, thanks for confirming. Weirdly, my pipeline does put the episodes out by a frame. (Well, like a percent of a frame, but the effect is that they’re off by one). But luckily, since they’re still the right FPS, I just shift the video stream by one frame for perfect sync again.

strange, which vegas version do you use? i’ve heard of a problem with v15.0 and could post the fix.

Watched cloak of darkness. despite one thing, i have nothing to criticize in a negative way. great work regarding argyus, even without grievous it flows well.

the one thing: i still think it’s worth a try to merge the music in the end credits
„ Although i like the suggestion from samo21 (first track from samuel kim in the link), because it could be tricky to always find the right transition from end of an episode to credits. depending on the episode itself of course. perhaps there is a possibility to fuse the two tracks.
my suggestion would be try to add your track after 0:26/27/28 of samuel kims song and see how this plays out.
because i think the beginning (first two seconds) of his song would be perfect to every ending, cause it feels general.“
because i found the transition in this from end of episode to credit score unfortunate.

the concept arts are beautiful.

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#1399485
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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So, i watched ep02 also and first of all like others said, great work you deliver here. Technically as well as narrative wise. Not one second felt boring. I was also surprised how good it work to cut out the spiders completely.
my overall nitpicks (that’s what they are, nothing more) have been covered by sade and knight of kalee.

one that wasn’t picked up before - if i’m not mistaken - you corrected yourself:

my other suggestion you fixed yourself, too:

  • the transition audio wise from end of the episode to credits. feels way better and smoother

Although i like the suggestion from samo21 (first track from samuel kim in the link), because it could be tricky to always find the right transition from end of an episode to credits. depending on the episode itself of course. perhaps there is a possibility to fuse the two tracks.
my suggestion would be try to add your track after 0:26/27/28 of samuel kims song and see how this plays out.
because i think the beginning (first two seconds) of his song would be perfect to every ending, cause it feels general.

last but not least i’ve got two remaining things to add:

  • am i delusional or is the intro and outro volume higher than the episode volume?
  • regarding wipes in the episode, i personally think it works best if someone uses the same wipe transition over the course of the entire episode. but that’s up for discussion because after all it’s a personal preference.

Edit: A third thing occurred to me. i watched the episode on my uhd samsung tv via nvidia shield pro. i thought i spotted 6-8 (maybe more) framerate issues (frame drops). perhaps @sade could shed light to it if he watched the episode via mpc-hc again?

Other than all the above, i’m thankful that you took upon this project. it is a real joy.

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#1398153
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:
I’ll check the black levels in the cut to tanks, though that bit is kind of necessary in order to construct this new dialogue. Originally Obi-Wan calls Anakin to talk about the plan, but in this whole scene I’m using the dialogue from Cat and Mouse where Bail calls Obi-Wan then Obi-Wan calls Anakin to get the same information across. But Anakin receiving the call in this scene doesn’t give me enough time so I had to pad it- first by reversing the shot so Anakin looks out the window, then at “something outside the window”, then back to his focus on the call. If the shot feels too short my only real option is to extend it instead, and let the dialogue take a little longer.

i could live with what you’ve done. If it works to extend this scene by half a or one second, do so. i think this would be enough. Nice work though to edit this scene this way, really nice.

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#1398151
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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sade1212 said:

I detect frame issues: for example, one duplicated at 106, one skipped between frame 116 and 117, duplicate again at 129, another dupe at 223 etc. MPV and MPC demonstrate this behaviour, so I think it’s inherent to the file. I’ve checked my local rips of TCW theatrical and the Hidden Enemy and they’re constant FPS 23.976 and don’t have any dupes. I’d double check your rips and how you’ve converted them.

I agree with DZ that the intro text could be spiced up a tad, but there’s a fine balance with not making it too wordy, and it definitely should continue to avoid spoiling that Ahsoka is assigned to Anakin (edit: whoops, about six new messages appeared while I was typing this one, and I see this was already iterated on). Perhaps you could work in a little reference to “Like fire, across the galaxy, the Clone Wars spread. In league with the wicked Count Dooku, more and more planets slip. Against this threat, upon the Jedi Knights falls the duty, to lead the army of the Republic. And, as the heat of war grows, so too grows the prowess of one most gifted student of the Force.”, though obviously that’d be super redundant if you then later turn CW2003 into an episode of this.

The actual editing is really solid, though, and an inventive way to put the Hidden Enemy together as just a prologue to the movie. I feel this works well as an introduction, as we’re rapidly reintroduced to Anakin and Obi-Wan, who aren’t too far from their AOTC characterisations, and then we meet Asajj quickly to get us used to the new characters.

Nitpicks:

  • There’s an odd cut at 2:10 between the table breaking and the fight continuing up the stairs. Perhaps the little bit of saber fighting after the table break could be excised entirely.
  • Similarly, the cut at ~2:16 feels like the music trails out a little abruptly - with such a vigorous swooping motion from the incoming bombers, perhaps this could be a wipe?
  • The wipe at 4:00 isn’t feathered at the top. The jump from night to day and the repurposing of this footage and the Bail audio works well, though.
  • The cutaway to tanks at 4:22 is too quick and unnecessary. Before it, the black levels look like this (correct), and after it, the black levels look like this (crushed) - is your 0-255 or 16-235 set correctly?
  • The cutaway after “the show is about to begin” works well.

McFibb, the droid stuff is pretty heavily baked into TCW, so you’ll probably just wind up inevitably having to stomach some of it. Same with Yoda using a lightsaber and many other traditional PT complaints.

Thanks sade for your technical feedback. i was about to write something similar, e.g. the frame drops as i use mpc also.
Doesn’t have to add anything, you all covered it.

As for the Intro text, i like eddiedeans from the start, but yours just flows better if pronunced. So i would advocate for this.

@eddiedean i think it’s best to not do a weekly schedule (stated this before). As you said, you will get more time for each episode and don’t have to rush anything.
Other than things already said, i liked the editing of yours!

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#1397520
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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McFibb said:

@EddieDean – I took a crack myself at an idea, stemming from V4. Check it out here: https://vimeo.com/495284667

Take it with a grain of salt, especially from a guy who has never seen TCW. That said, I know this much:

  1. It’s about intergalactic AND inter- / intra- personal wars.
  2. Asohka and Anakin are primary characters.
  3. The music should take into account the emotions revolving around each of the above.

So, I took a swing. Might be a huge miss, but happy to contribute an iota of an idea for this great thread!

Keep up the great work!

EDIT: Music credit goes to Samuel Kim, with remix by me.

I’ve to say I like it too. Right amount of epicness. For a second I had concerns it’ll be the avengers theme from endgame when the intro text unfolds.
Though I agree with eddiedean regarding the longer time for the introtext and piano to pin point this with the emerging sentences.

One minor issue for me is that the audio-transition from the tcw logo to the episode name is fairly rough, because of the difference between the two music pieces. Perhaps it is possible to smoothin it out? Or maybe it the intro music could end around 0:54/55? Therefore the difference would be lesser than before.

For stereo to 5.1, you could use ffmpeg, the conversion to 5.1 should work? (not an expert though).

Other than that, great job!

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#1397179
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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I also prefer v4, like the others and most importantly yourself.
The motion of the background in the end credits is great. Would second a little wider font size.
As for the display of the single textlines: as suggested one or two seconds more I find difficult. I think half a second more would be enough.

Really great work mate.

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#1397069
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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  • I second the more melancholy approach with the music. It could be difficult to aquiere a mando-like bombast intro.
  • I love the yellow over the concept arts
  • moving the tcw logo seems right. Additionally I would extend the display of it a few seconds more, also I think more zoom would work well.

Overall I think it is a great improvement 😃

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#1396494
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED]
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EddieDean said:
Here’s a question for you all: If I run out of concept ART for the closing credits, would it be best to fill the gaps with promotional shots from the episode (so nice shots but not concept), or other concept materials like the images they show when creating new assets like sets or characters, which are less beautiful but interesting in a different way?

Would work for me. Another idea would be, to use gimp and make screenshots from episodes more art-like via filter.

Here you’ve the thread from the pro audio engineer who’s looking to support fan edits
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/pro-audio-engineer-looking-to-get-involved/id/81422/page/1#1394162