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Collipso said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Handman said:

What the heck was up with the Unicorn sequence, anyway?

I like it. I think it’s supposed to further the idea that Deckard may be a replicant since unicorns also show up elsewhere in the movie, suggesting it may be someone else’s memory.

And to answer the question. FINAL CUT.

Doesn’t the toy unicorn do just that in a less cheesy way?

Edit: ok so I might watch the final cut this weekend, since everyone’s telling me it’s the way to go. Thanks guys!

But does the toy unicorn on its own tell us for sure it has something to do with Deckard? He has the dream about unicorns, and there’s that toy, and the origami. Without the dream, is the unicorn tied explicitly to Deckard?

Handman said:

What the heck was up with the Unicorn sequence, anyway?

I like it. I think it’s supposed to further the idea that Deckard may be a replicant since unicorns also show up elsewhere in the movie, suggesting it may be someone else’s memory.

And to answer the question. FINAL CUT.

yhwx said:

JEDIT: Double Whopper, fries and a large chocolate shake.

FTFM

It bothers me that it has arms AND wings.

dahmage said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Michael Ward said:

SilverWook said:

How did they cheat with the dice? I don’t have my copy of The Force Can and Cannots handy…

They could be touched and held.

Or Luke projected them into her hands as a clue. She never seemed shocked during that sequence, just watched calmly as they disappeared.

Kylo Ren held them as they disappeared.

Oops…

Failure, the best teacher is.

Michael Ward said:

SilverWook said:

How did they cheat with the dice? I don’t have my copy of The Force Can and Cannots handy…

They could be touched and held.

Or Luke projected them into her hands as a clue. She never seemed shocked during that sequence, just watched calmly as they disappeared.

jollyreaper said:

“I’m on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.”
“Princess, please. I literally just saw you fly away from the battle on this very ship like ten minutes ago.”

"You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!"
same same.

So far as we knew in ANH he had a strong suspicion. It’s a bit more of that now with the context of RO.

So? Why does he have to explain everything to his prisoner?

jollyreaper said:

“Princess, please. I literally just saw you fly away from the battle on this very ship like ten minutes ago.”

how does his response, “you’re a member of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor,” conflict with anything in RO?

yhwx said:

I didn’t even realize Luke wasn’t there until we saw him on Ach-To in my first viewing. You’re able to be fooled by that scene because you’re invested in his character in that moment. Very nicely done.

Ditto. I noticed he looked odd, but I never figured out it was a projection until the saber goes right through him. The first shot of him levitating was incredibly powerful.

moviefreakedmind said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

That said, a recompositing of the original film elements for an OUT wouldn’t offend me, but I also don’t tend to think it is necessary.

People on this site are the only ones I’ve ever seen that claim to be offended by recompositing the original effects. I don’t think they’re bothered by the TNG blurays though.

The question is, if all the SEs had done was recomp the effects, and had this become the only available version of the films, would this website exist? I bet not. I think the nature of the situation and the fact that we’ve been forced to create these projects has created radicals.

Digital recomping could reduce grain. If I understand the process correctly, in optical effects composition, certain elements will be processed more times than others, leading to variation in grain levels and generational loss within frames. Digitally, you just scan and overlay.

Lol

My baby will soon be entering it’s seventh year. I dread the day it croaks. They’re so fucking expensive these days. Even more than they were back then.

SilverWook said:

Damn Windows 10 and it’s bloated updates. Lucky I had free internet in my hotel room this past weekend.

If I had a nickle for each person I know who has both made fun of my MacBook and complained about Windows updates…

Getting back into Justified. The first half of the first season was hit or miss and I gradually gave up on it, but the second half was great. Glad I gave it a second chance.

Frank your Majesty said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

You know, somehow I must have gotten cursed into to having bad experiences at the movies. I decided to to use the free ticket I got from tlj incident, and I saw “The Post”. I sat next to an asshole who didn’t think the directive to turn off your cell phone applied to him. The jerk didn’t even put it on vibrate. It rang, twice. He didn’t even turn it off or to vibrate after the first time it rang and it rang again later on in the movie. He had it in the space in the chair for drinks, where when it rang it shined it’s bright screen right in my face. I was very temped to grab the thing and break it in two. Fuck that guy.

Why didn’t you just take the phone and shove it up his ass?

tempting, but I was afraid someone would call the cops and I’d get arrested for assault and battery.

Well, couldn’t you remove the battery first?

I doubt he broght Apple’s proprietary screwdriver into the theater 😉

It’s stunning, really.

I love the flickering, pale, imperfect lightsabers in Star Wars.

That said, a recompositing of the original film elements for an OUT wouldn’t offend me, but I also don’t tend to think it is necessary.

Edit: Also, interesting you mentioned Mike. He mentions in one is his videos (I think his restoration of the Death Star approach), that his work approximates what recompositing would accomplish, noting that that would be ideal. Even a purist like Mike doesn’t shy away from improving upon the O-neg so long as the original photographic elements aren’t altered.

Edit 2: I believe this to be the link:

https://vimeo.com/117582796

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

2. the minor interaction with surroundings we see in ROTJ don’t matter near as much as finding out that force ghost Obiwan and Yoda maybe could have appeared before the Emperor and Vader and zapped them.

But Yoda didn’t just zap the tree out of thin air like the force lighting the Emperor uses. This has already been explained to you.

Whatever you want to call it, it sure would have been nice if had used it on the Emperor in ROTJ after Yoda died.

Please point me to the scene in the Emperors throne room where there were storm clouds over head so we could have had the same lightning and then i’d agree with you.

He needs storm clouds? That is never explained. What if in a future movie a force user does it without storm clouds, then can I ask why force ghost Yoda doesn’t zap the Emperor in ROTJ?

The point is that we can draw these inferences about what we did see. We don’t need to exactly pin it down. Does the idea that Yoda could influence the path of lightning bother you?

no. However if it would have been convenient to influence the path of lightning at some point in the OT and he didn’t, that would bother me.

Lets say in some future movie, force users can force transport themselves wherever they want. Now, wouldn’t you then question why Obiwan didn’t do this in TPM and get past the shield in the Maul fight?

Obviously.

As others have said, we can infer that Yoda simply affected the path of the lightning. If Yoda did show up in Snoke’s thrown room and start pulling lightning down…well then I’d agree with you. But what actually happened in this film was far more constrained than that.

maybe, but the movie never says he needs storm clouds.

Star Wars never explicitly “says” you need to push the button on a saber to ignite the blade. But do you doubt that’s how it works, given that’s what we’re shown?

I mean, what more do you want? Yoda saying a prayer to the rain god?

You’re unhappy ghost Yoda conjured up lightening but never did/could before. You ask for an explanation from the movie. We give it to you. You say that’s dumb. It’s the force. He shouldn’t need existing clouds. You just came full circle. Just try to work through the logic.

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

2. the minor interaction with surroundings we see in ROTJ don’t matter near as much as finding out that force ghost Obiwan and Yoda maybe could have appeared before the Emperor and Vader and zapped them.

But Yoda didn’t just zap the tree out of thin air like the force lighting the Emperor uses. This has already been explained to you.

Whatever you want to call it, it sure would have been nice if had used it on the Emperor in ROTJ after Yoda died.

Please point me to the scene in the Emperors throne room where there were storm clouds over head so we could have had the same lightning and then i’d agree with you.

He needs storm clouds? That is never explained. What if in a future movie a force user does it without storm clouds, then can I ask why force ghost Yoda doesn’t zap the Emperor in ROTJ?

The fact that there are storm clouds coming in overhead and the lightning comes from those clouds that we clearly see in the film, isn’t enough to explain where the lightning comes from? What more did you need? Ric Olie suddenly popping his head from behind a rock to explain where it came from? 😉

We are talking about the force here, he doesn’t necessarily need storm clouds.

Says who? Where is this explained in a movie? If you really believe the force is limitless, which this post suggests, that you have a problem with this is baffling.

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

I thought Yoda was just guiding the lightning not creating it.

sure looked like he created it to me.

Big difference between manipulating the weather to create lighting and firing it out of your fingertips. It’s been suggested in the past Yoda used the Force to make sure Luke crashed in just the right spot on Dagobah. That was some choppy weather he hit coming into the atmosphere.

I don’t think he just manipulated the weather.

Well then, frankly, that’s your problem. What else could it be? He conjured lightening from a stormy sky. We see earlier in the film that the island is prone to inclement weather. It seems pretty clear to many of us that that’s what he did.

dahmage said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Ric Olie suddenly popping his head from behind a rock to explain where it came from? 😉

YES!

This whole tree is one big forest fire.

This:

TV’s Frink said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Ric Olie suddenly popping his head from behind a rock to explain where it came from? 😉

YES!

This whole tree is one big forest fire.

To the tree:

“You catch on fire pretty quick!”

Is better

Ric Olie suddenly popping his head from behind a rock to explain where it came from? 😉

YES!

This whole tree is one big forest fire.

How are we supposed to explain it in the film? A brief interlude with a soliloquy by Pablo Hidalgo ecplaining the continuity?