Now I really wish the prequels had been better because the music was so tied to scenes
The main reason I wish the prequels were better is that 12 year old me thought it was a good idea to buy them on DVD, and now I’m stuck with them.
And the Star Wars Holiday Special, the one remaining vestige of what could have become a great empire, became a classic and is aired by ABC each year after A Charlie Brown Christmas.
One of the worst things about the prequels is that every Joe out there has a lightsaber.
You mean every Jedi Joe? Why wouldn’t they all have lightsabers? They’re Jedi!
What I mean to say is there are just so many g-dd-mn lightsabers because there are so many g-dd-mn Jedi. I know it’s a big galaxy, but force-sensitivity still seems to be too wide-spread in the PT. In the OT, it’s mystical. There are five force users in the entire galaxy: Ben, Yoda, Luke, Vader, and the Emperor. In the PT, you have 100 Jedi killing robots and you’re like A) is being a Jedi really that hard? and B) Are they really held in that high esteem, if they’re being contracted to kill robots? It just dilutes the notion of Jedi.
Since Star Wars happened a long time ago, doesn’t that make “Jedi Joe” old news?
I only know of 5 lightsabers:
The lightsaber of Anakin Skywalker, presented to Luke Skywalker by Ben Kenobi.
The lightsaber of Ben Kenobi.
The lightsaber of Darth Vader.
The lightsaber built by Luke Skywalker.
The lightsaber of Kylo Ren.
One of the worst things about the prequels is that every Joe out there has a lightsaber. That scene when like 100 Jedi storm a bunch of robots with lightsabers is one of the dumbest shots ever (like dudes, pull out Anakin, Ben, and Padme and drop a big bomb, or just drop in expendable clones, Jedi aren’t infantry, they’re supposed to be rare, elite fighters). In the OT (and in VII, hopefully it continues), lightsabers are rare weapons, wielded by a select few and used, for the most part, only in combat against other lightsaber wielders. It added to the lore and mystery of them.
I first sensed it when I watched the Blu Ray of Jedi. As I was raised on 2004 DVDs and the prequels, Vader’s “Noooooo” was my “Han shot first.” I wasn’t in the loop about the OOT movement, and I hadn’t heard about the additional changes before purchasing. I was dumbfounded. The throne room had always been my favorite sequence in the trilogy (though Empire is my favorite movie), and to have the climax ruined by making it so G-ddamned cheesey was infuriating.
As there’s evidence to suggest the '81 crawl was spliced into old prints, I’d lean towards all of the above.
If it is true that the '81 release used existing '77 prints, I’m sort of baffled that it was deemed worthwhile to change the title crawl. It’d be one thing if they had to go through the effort to run new prints anyway, but to put in the work to make such a small change to otherwise ready and usable prints?
Then again, this is George Lucas we’re talking about.
I may be ignorant, but what is the advantage of making 70mm prints of a film shot on 35mm? Were there just theaters that had only 70mm equipment?
Stormtroopers are clones of vampires. This is why they wear those helmets (to keep direct sunlight off) and they can only enter a house if they have been invited. Them bodies at the Lars farm were stormtroopers who were stripped naked at gunpoint by Owen.
He and Beru are still alive.
Where did Owen find a wooden stake on Tatooine?
If you look at the marketing for Rogue One-it’s marketed as ROGUE ONE, with “A Star Wars Story” in much smaller letters, whereas TFA was marketing as STAR WARS first. That seems to be how they’re differentiating them.
I am all for the removal of the numerals from the marketing of these movies. I wonder if Lucasfilm did it for the new repacakagings in an effort to put a stop to what is the ever more common practice of introducing kids to the prequels first and watching in episodic order. It always bugged me that the Blu-Ray release ordered the discs in episodic order in the digibook (does anyone know if this is still the case after the repackaged “Complete Saga”?). It almost seemed a ploy to get new viewers to watch Lucas’s “original vision” before the original movies.
Even its Wikipedia page refers to it as simply Star Wars
Don’t tell George.
Due to my age, I became a Star Wars fan during the releases of the prequels. So, when I first watched them, I started referring to them by numbers, due to the strong presence of the Roman numerals in the prequel posters and the OT DVD covers. Then the Blu-Rays came out and I bought them to replace my pillarboxed DVDs. This is when I really became peeved at the SEs, due to the new changes which then made me look back and see what else had been changed, making me realize what a farce this all was. For purity’s sake and somewhat out of protest, I started referring to them as Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi, in other words becoming an SW old soul. So I never went through a “New Hope” phase. Today, I’m already to the point that I get annoyed and “correct” my friends when the say things like “the fourth one” or “episode 5,” and don’t you dare refer to it as “A New Hope” around me.
How do you know the 4k restoration was abandoned? We had official press about the cancellation of the 3D release, but nothing official that the 3D would be based on a new scan or that this scan was for the 3D.
Each frame is divided by a y=x line. The top left triangle of the frame has the grain. The lower right has had some if it scrubbed.
Also, what purpose does a grain reduction on a bw converted frame from a color film?
Sorry guys… perhaps we could just stop posting here now, and let the thread die in peace.
Possibly. Too bad we can’t see when this clip was uploaded.
Not definitive, but a good estimate–Web Archive’s earliest crawl of the page is Sept. 5, 2015.
Episode VIII will be released in December 2017
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/20/star-wars-episode-viii-release-date-postponed-seven-months
The way I see it, there are two versions of Star Wars worth preserving for history’s sake: the '77/'80/'83 and the '97 editions, the only two that saw their premiers on the big screen. As far as I am concerned, the '04 DVD and '11 Blu-Ray cuts are insignificant from a preservation point of view.
If new Lucasfilm lead by Disney wanted to put out their own edition based on the '04/'11 as some kind of “Definitive Edition,” like the Bladerunner “Final Cut,” why not? It would be better than anything we’ve had since the original releases (they would be bone-headed, for instance, to keep Greedo shooting or Vader’s Noooooo!). If they’re doing a new 4k transfer for such purposes, however, there is no excuse not to release the theatrical version alongside, and from a business perspective, it would be quite stupid to pass up the opportunity for an expensive boxset that would fly off the shelves.
I don’t think they (morally) have the right to tinker with the trilogy. I think that the 2011 should be the final Special Edition, as these were the last ones that George worked on, and are essentially his definitive version. I don’t think we’ll ever see an official release of the 97/04 cuts again, and I doubt we’ll get a new master for the 2011. I think they’ll do a 4K restoration of the OUT and release it in a pack with left over 2011 discs.
I’m just trying to explain this weird-a** video. Perhaps it’s some kind of working cut of the 2011 before they swapped the audio tracks, and a desk jockey at Lucasfilm pulled the clip from an HDD w/out realizing it?
The way I see it, there are two versions of Star Wars worth preserving for history’s sake: the '77/'80/'83 and the '97 editions, the only two that saw their premiers on the big screen. As far as I am concerned, the '04 DVD and '11 Blu-Ray cuts are insignificant from a preservation point of view.
If new Lucasfilm lead by Disney wanted to put out their own edition based on the '04/'11 as some kind of “Definitive Edition,” like the Bladerunner “Final Cut,” why not? It would be better than anything we’ve had since the original releases (they would be bone-headed, for instance, to keep Greedo shooting or Vader’s Noooooo!). If they’re doing a new 4k transfer for such purposes, however, there is no excuse not to release the theatrical version alongside, and from a business perspective, it would be quite stupid to pass up the opportunity for an expensive boxset that would fly off the shelves.
You like the bantha herd in Jedi? I just find it to be an unnecessary aside that ruins the flow of the film. Also, in general, I despise the addition of the animals all over the desert of Tattooine. It ruins the notion that the planet is nothing but a desolate wasteland full of “scum and villainy.”
Though any new release that doesn’t include the OUT would be unacceptable at this point, I would enjoy the opportunity to watch a good quality SE that is watchable (i.e., the current SE minus PT “continuity” changes, changes that alter the plot and suspense (cantina, Jabba in SW), and superfluous cartoon animals everywhere.
That’s definitely the blu ray picture alright. I wonder, why on earth would they pair one release’s picture with another’s sound unless it was some new restoration? Why go through the trouble for only a small online clip?
Now if they release some kind of cut and paste release without the originals as well that would be unacceptable.
One mistake there right away. Star Wars and Empire used the original widescreen version of the 20th Century Fox logo with the tilted ‘0’. It wasn’t until Jedi, when, due Star Wars’ success, they brought back the logo and fanfare full time, that they used the redrawn logo depicted.
The villains certainly make the film. And Robbie Coltrane is phenomenal.
Is it just me, or is the music that begins at the 1:55 mark of the '97 SE trailer the ‘new’ Lucasfilm fanfare heard before the iTunes digital releases of the OT/PT in place of the 20th Century Fox fanfare? Makes me hate it even more.
Was this music ever in any of the movies, or was it written specifically to market the SEs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMLMLjwp4g
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