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Fang Zei said:

First Steven Spielberg doesn’t even bother including the later version of E.T. in the blu-ray release or the 4k, now Francis Ford Coppola (George’s friend going even further back) is including both the theatrical Apocalypse Now and Apocalypse Now Redux alongside a new third cut of the movie, all in 4k!

I think we can all agree the burying of ET Special Edition is a good thing. It was an abomination that should never have been made.

Most of the new scenes are extras on the BD so whatever.

Very sad news

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/peter-mayhew-dead-dies-chewbecca-star-wars-1203203816/

**IM**ploding bladder? That sounds really serious 😛

SilverWook said:

Ironically, Tom Selleck was almost in Raiders. 😉

There’s also the Robot Chicken sketch about the Jaws Special Edition, which is really about Star Wars.
https://youtu.be/pkba-r8NmJk

LOLLLL @ the praxis effect!

Maybe they can start making some home media products to start slapping these anniversary logos on.

Got Alien 4K to future proof. 15 bucks on Amazon (in a stupid eco box… is nothing sacred?).

Trying to decide if I should pawn off my quadrilogy box. I used to like Aliens, but last time I watched it I was bored to death. Who has time for 3/Resurrection?

Maybe I’ll watch aliens again and decide.

JayArgonaut said:

No, it did not

sigh…

Did the broadcast also include the appropriate Saul Bass Warner logo? I smiled when I saw that on the Criterion disc. Warner seems keen to erase it from history for some reason. This was probably the worst sin of the original Blu-Ray, considering the score plays over and coordinates with the animation of the logo.

JayArgonaut said:

Watched Barry Lyndon on BBC Four last night, hadn’t seen it in many years and I was pleasantly surprised that they aired it in the correct aspect ratio and without any time-compression.

By correct aspect ratio you mean 1.66:1? Criterion’s decision to use that aspect ratio was initially controversial but they provided documents backing it up. The old Blu was 1.78:1.

That’s why I don’t like super hero sequels. It’s just our old friends going on new adventures. It’s unimaginative and, while maybe fun at first, ultimately boring. I’m glad they went a different route with Star Wars.

You said “evil”, not us.

Zipideedooda

If the OUT happens, I think it will be because of people at LF/the Mouse who care and want to see it preserved and enjoyed, not because of the fans/demand.

crissrudd4554 said:

At best! 😂😂

Honestly, if the OUT were officially available, I might find the SE funny. But as it is, it’s just sad that one of the most influential films ever made is presented on official home media only in a not only altered, but laughing-stock, form.

crissrudd4554 said:

Something that came to my mind the other day about how Greedo shooting first conflicts with the Jabba scene. Because Greedo shot first there’s really no point for Jabba to ask Han ‘why did you fry poor Greedo??’. Yes you could argue Jabba maybe wasn’t aware Greedo shot first and Han killed in self defense but given that’s how the dialogue was in the original shot scene with Declan Mulholland this seems to tie in better with the idea that Han shot first.

Lol. The SEs are a CF

LOL!

I had no idea Blockbuster ever carried LD. would’ve figured that was too niche for rental markets.

screams in the void said:

What about the blue T.I.E. lasers in the asteroid field in the faces vhs of Empire ?

SHOULD BE PRESERVED ON THE 4K BD OF THE TRILOGY VIA SEEMLESS BRANCHING! IN PAN-AND-SCAN TOO!

though the rumor says 4 discs per movie for the 4K sets and 3 discs for the BD

crissrudd4554 said:

Ummmmmmmmmmmm…

He’s being sarcastic

How could IX confirm or deny that suspicion?

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moviefreakedmind said:

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Fang Zei said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Like before?

Well, it was slightly different in 2015. The day before the digital release dropped (which was the same week as Celebration IIRC) there was a report citing a “source” within LFL that the Han/Greedo scene had been altered yet again, this time back to its original pre-SE edit.

That report may yet turn out to be true. It could be a change that’s being saved for the 4k remaster.

Anyway, yeah, it wasn’t an OOT rumor that time. But Greedo shooting first is arguably the most controversial change George has made to these films. Changing it back to its original state would be a big deal all on its own.

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s important to note that the article’s source didn’t specifically say that we should expect the OOT the way that every other rumor has. They kind of hinted at it, but again, the point was more that there were 4K restorations happening, not that we’d get the original versions. That, to me, makes the article a bit more credible since it isn’t as speculative.

Yeah, but they also mention that Lucasfilm is thinking at least three discs per movie and that this Skywalker Saga release will “please fans.”

For the OT films, just what in the world could that possibly mean other than the unaltered version on one of those discs?!

Just visit some other Star Wars boards, and you’ll find that most fans are pleased with the SE. Many of them will argue, that they wouldn’t mind an OOT release, but they don’t view it as essential, and some don’t care for it at all. The OOT fans have sadly become a monority, so “please the fans” doesn’t have to imply an OOT release. The SE in the best state possible with a ton of previously unreleased extras will do that for most fans.

The whole “who shot first” thing is still widely associated with the Star Wars fandom. Pleasing the fans is an obvious nod to the OUT in this context. Whether this will happen or not is a different question.

To me this is nothing more than projecting your own views on the entire fandom. The days that “who shot first” was a big thing in the fandom are long past. The fans are a much wider and diverse group than our little community here on OT.com, many if not most who grew up with the PT, and the SE, and many who consider the SE superior to the original versions, and more consistent when viewed in the context of the saga as a whole. When people at Disney talk about pleasing the fans, they are most likely talking about the growing majority of fans, who would like to see the saga in the highest quality possible in combination with unreleased material, not the dwindling minority of OOT fans.

You are aware that those who want the OUT is not restricted to just this site correct?? I’m not saying the market for the OUT isn’t/hasn’t shrinking/shrunk with each passing day but I would not go as far to say this site represents 99% of those who want it. Just because there isn’t others who post about it doesn’t mean they don’t want it.

Hal 9000 said:

I only take issue with Star Wars fans’ opinions when they say they would the OOT not to ever be released alongside the ‘official’ versions.

That would literally be the only scenario it would happen. It ain’t gonna be like E.T. where Spielberg ultimately reversed his opinion and now the theatrical cut is only the available version. The SE’s of Star Wars are here to stay whether we’re happy about it or not. Whether they will coexist someday with the OUT is another story.

I’m very aware, because I’m also active on other boards, and one thing that struck me is, that you often meet the same people who advocate the release of the OOT, while the majority doesn’t seem to care all that much, beyond viewing the OOT as a curiousity, that they might be interested in owning, while their go-to versions will remain the SE. In other words as I said before, the OOT seems nice to have, but not essential to the majority of fans.

Most people—even SW fans—also don’t use Internet forums. People of the ‘vintage’ most likely to prefer the OUT are probably even less likely. For this and other reasons the web probably isn’t the best sample to analyze.

It’s not true that “almost everyone” is a SW fan. Maybe nearly everyone (in the anglosphere) has seen and enjoyed a SW movie, but that doesn’t make them fans in the sense we mean here.

Of course most of those people don’t care about the SE/OUT debate, but they’re also not waiting with bated breath for a UHD release of the Star Wars Trilogy.

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see the SE presented in the lowest resolution while the OUT is presented in 4K UHD with a forced apology from George Lucas on the fourth disc.

That’s a bit petty, don’t you think?

I for one hope disc 4 is a 4K recreation of the 1997 pan-and-scan vhs. We need to preserve these versions for posterity!

Like before?