Warbler said:
C3PX said: A few less people isn't going to harm anything.
I really hope you are being sarcastic here. otherwise this comes off as very offensive.
Oh for Pete's sake, Warb. Can we get over this over sensitive kick you have been on? Everytime someone offers an opinion you disagree with you get offended. I don't mean it sarcastically. You, me, every member of this board, those that died in Pompeii, those that died in Katrina, none of us are that significant when looking at the broad spectrum. A thousand years from now my life and everything I accomplish in it won't amount to a hill of beans. Same goes for those who died in Katrina or those earthquakes. Their loss doesn't harm anything. It doesn't change the course of history, and at the end of the day they are of very little significance. There are a lot of humans on this planet, the loss of a large quantity of them is nothing more than a historical statistic. Sure, it is a tragedy to their families and those who knew them, but beyond that they matter very little all in all.
C3PX said: Losing your home sucks and all, I wouldn't like it, but in the end, it doesn't really matter,
it matters to the person/people that lost their home(s).
Sure, but we are talking world wide disasters here, buddy. We are not talking about looking through the microscope at the lives of each individual, we are talking about a global perspective over large periods of time.
C3PX said:Notice how you listed recent events?
I listed recent events because A.B.C. tried to argue the oil disaster was the worst of the 21st century. I tried to argue that there were others that were worse. Any disaster in the 21 century would a recent one cause the century's is only 10 years old. Pompei has nothing to do with this cause it didn't happen in the 21st century.
No, it does. Because when we talk about the worst disaster of the 21st century, we are talking about its long term historical effect. I have a feeling the repercussions of this are going to be pretty severe. Hope I am wrong, but it is very likely to have a desvestating lasting effect. Katrina will not, for our century, any more than Pompeii did for its century.
C3PX said:
Minor counter point: the discussion is about the 21st century as will be looked back on by other centuries. Comment was made to add perspective. Will guys like Warb a thousand years from now read about Katrina and 911 and feel the same way Warb does about them?
probably not, but it still doesn't mean that 911 and Katrina aren't worse than the oil disaster.
Damn, I hate that I just repeated my self to your above comment when you quoted my concise answer to it right here. Anyway, whether it is worse or not is not something for me or you to decide. That is something only time can determine.
C3PX said: Or will they feel the same way we typically do (usually with intrigue, rather than pity) when we read of disasters that are recorded historically, like Pompei.
will the oil disaster be regarded as any different?
Yeah, if it has long term consequences it is very likely it will be regarded MUCH different. Pompeii and Katrina didn't/won't so much effect the lives of those who are to come in later generations, very likely the oil disaster will.
C3PX said:
I have a feeling this whole oil incident could be equated more closely to Nero's alleged burning of Rome in the long run. A historical shooting in the foot with severe long term repercussions.
I disagree, I think most people look at the burning of Rome with intrigue, like they do with Pompei.
Guess my point was missed. I wasn't trying to say that people don't look at the burning of Rome with intrigue, they sure do. But it had far more long term repercussions in history than Pompeii did.