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#665946
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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I don't know but the scene you refer to I think is in the movie, the sound heard in the background (Luke groaning) is not or the sound quality augmented it so that it sounds different. Or they added another sound for the trailer.

 

 

I have my own question following my previous poster:

I love this project and I've following it for about 3 weeks. I realize that this is a restauration of a original Technicolor print reel, from the original movie that was probably in the cinemas back then when the movie was released.

Did the original theatrical release, or does this Technicolor print contain any scenes or alternate takes that were NOT present in the first home entertainment release for this movie (VHS or 8mm prints).

 I see that George Lucas had a urge to change things spontaneously or post work. So do many other directors and there are many classic movies that were slightly different on their first theatrical release and on their first home entertainment release. When Empire Strikes Back came to cinemas nobody knew that Darth Vader is gonna say "I'm the father!".

Blade Runner is probably another good example and there are many more movies.

There are just a few bits and takes altered from it's original theatrical presentation.

I wanted to ask if this is true for Star Wars? I've never seen the original (really original!) theatrical.

Or was the first home release (VHS) an exact print of what was shown in the cinemas?

Can I expect to see ANY greater or minimalistic changes, like alternate timing, or sounds, alternate takes? That would be very interesting to know.

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#599628
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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Harmy said:

Dude, maybe it's just me, but that post feels like a very polite executive giving orders to an employee. The fact that those shots have these colors in the GOUT doesn't mean that they're correct or they look like in the original and since I had no other reference, I was usually aiming for consistency.

 

But that planet where around its orbit the last fight takes place, is clearly green. It is in each other shot, also the story suggest that is a completely jungle-themed planet. Remember the speeder fight, the ewoks. Its that planet, right? looks very green to me

-You must do what you feel is right, of course.

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#599427
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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Hello Harmy.

 

I admire your work De Specializing the movies a lot.

This is how Star Wars was meant to be, also I dig it more than other fan-edits while putting a lot of work into it, they are simply overdone. Almost going towards the Lucas' kind of direction.

Any way, while enjoying it a lot. I'm the kind of guy when talking "original" I  mean reall original and I usually spot microscopic color deviations, others wouldn't even realize at all. Here are a few things that need to be adjusted, those differences are pretty obvious, so please change them:

The color of the party-ship is grey in the original (you reverted R2D2 back to gray), in your DeSpe it's as red as in the SE! Please return to grey. Or reduce the artificial looking shimmer that makes it look too much like plastic.

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The Falcon is just as green in your DeSpe as it is in the SE.

Please, please return it to a neutral grey (warm grey) as in GOUT.

Also the planet needs to a bit more red. It almost seems as if there is a bit of green tint all over the picture. Just reduce green a notch and shit a bit towards blue/purple on the Falcon. Thanks

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3rd change. Totally green is a mild summer blue now?

This change is so obvious that I may ask what was the reason to it?

Why not making it green. The planet IS green after all (in every other shot)

 Also while looking nice, I think brightness must go down a bit. It indeed looks nice but It also highlights model borders too much?

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If theres one thing I can't stand, it's when starships or walls have an obvious tint that was not meant to be there.

You can also take another quick look at your Falcon in the DS hangar in SW. While basing on a old source, there is a obvious kind of blue/green or pink tint on top that seems out of place. I think the color simply comes from the wear of old material. Maybe Im wrong

 

Thanks a lot.

 

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#599417
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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where can I see the

Star Wars Trilogy The Very Special Edition

?

 

This link says: Harmy's own Star Wars Trilogy: The Very Special Edition, available in 12 parts on Youtube, mashes up real footage with Star Wars parodies...:

http://www.screened.com/news/behind-the-scenes-of-harmys-star-wars-despecialized-edition/2917/ 

Was it deleted for copyright infringement?

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#565662
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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muddyknees2000 said:

BuddhaMaster said:

 

Excuse me, but that first puppet is Yogurt from Spaceballs, not Yoda.

I'm almost sure of it

 

Word is that Mel Brooks just HATED having Frank Oz's hand up there during shooting. They're apparently STILL not on speaking terms.

 Actually that took me 5 minutes of surfing the internet, then I got it.

Very funny. ;)

 

My second answer is: That puppet didn't entirely look like Yoda. Somehow skinnier. Maybe because it's not in use or a replica or just bad lighting

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#565656
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Monroville said:

I always felt that Vader gave Luke a nudge towards the vents, which then pulled him in once he got close enough (as that initial scene with Luke tumbling towards the vents looks too awkward for him to be naturally sucked in, not to mention it fit with Vader wanting his son to live).

Even so, I always figured Luke was under the "dish" of Cloud City, which brings us to this image:

I think the problem is the perspective of the central shaft, which should be MUCH wider at the top right, considering that Luke would not be that far away from it (the best Luke would have traveled through the tube before being ejected couldn't have been more than a football field length), not to mention that the central shaft would be as wide as a small city.

Also, regardless of flipping or altering the shot of Luke's first entry into the airshafts, should the walls be darker and the lights given any kind of FX to better match it's appearance in the farther perspective shot?:

 



Okay, it matches better than I first thought, but you get the idea...

 

DON'T alter the thickness of the shaft in the first picture / outside view!

I always thought of Luke simply falling an endless long tube down to the bottom. Hes literally taking an epic fall. Disregarding any timings might hinting otherwise.

Or adywan could take a still shot, subtitled "5 minutes later"... then you hear Luke screaming, slowly becoming louder, until  dropping out the bottom" In a real comical fashion, maybe even add a slide-whistle sound. See the car-flip scene in The Man with the Golden Gun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh0VF6s-UYU 

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#565649
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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vbangle said:

Of course if we are going off the Lucas Ranch models then check this out.

 

 

 

Sorry Adywan. But I think going off what someone's pics of Lucas Ranch models as something that is gospel might be troublesome at best. Or is it?

Both the Yoda model and the Tie model pics from the Lucas Ranch are claimed to be the actual real models used in the film. So why match the Tie fighters in the film to the Lucas Ranch Tie colors and not Yoda?

 

Excuse me, but that first puppet is Yogurt from Spaceballs, not Yoda.

I'm almost sure of it

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#527696
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Angel said:

oh_riginal said:

 

However, nothing visual happens during the strike to the floor. No sparks, no light from sparks, nothing.

In later scenes when Luke and Vader's sabers strike walls and handrails, there are either sparks or cuts. The same for Return of the Jedi when Luke hits the handrails before defeating Vader, there were sparks flying each time his saber hit the handrails.

I would have done a mockup, but I wouldn't know how to create sparks, if they would be visible. But if no sparks would be visible, at least the flash of light from the sparks should be, right?

Hell sure, why not?

-Angel

 

I usually hate obvious and flashy CGI, but that looks horny!

If this can be put out in motion I might be satisfied a lot.