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#1305532
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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I haven’t really gone through them myself. I think the DVD era more or less burnt me out on “extras” although I still find myself, out of habit, buying blu-rays based on how many bullet points are on the back.

But at some point it occurred to me that for all the weight I give “the extras” on any disc I ever bought, aside from a handful of very prominent examples, I almost never watched them more than once, and sometimes never watched them at all.

There’s a bunch of stuff on the 2011 blu-ray set for Star Wars I’ve never clicked on. That includes some of the deleted scenes.

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#1305526
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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Yeah, my list certainly doesn’t look like it did last year. And 5 years ago it probably would have looked a lot different, too.

Every year that goes by informs the way I appreciate movies, and that appreciation shifts and changes with the number of stories I consume. Lists like these are fun not only because you get a sense of what people like and what they value over other aspects, but because they DO change as experiences accumulate.

I swore up and down all through my teens and early 20s that Superman II was a better made, more interesting, more involving, more MOVIE movie than Superman: The Movie. Much older me understands why I thought that, but definitely disagrees. Same with Aliens and Alien.

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#1305484
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Again, not attempting to excuse or justify this hiliariously weird change by Lucas, but to attempt answering your question, I believe this is what he was intending:

Greedo at no point appears to believe Han is a threat, which is why he’s talking so big.
Han is content to let Greedo believe he’s unarmed, which is why he’s surreptitiously getting his gun ready.
Greedo keeps talking bigger and bigger
Han, with his weapon free, goads him to see what he’ll do.
Greedo now says “MacKlunkey!” which is apparently actually “Ma Klounkee” - Huttese for “This is the end of you.” or something like that.
Han shoots first.

So I think the intent (again, not saying he was successful at all) was to make it even clearer that Greedo was out to burn Han, and to have the scene play more like an actual showdown instead of a sneak attack. In this way, Greedo’s boldness and stupidity in needing to get the last word is what gets him shot.

Fourth time’s the charm, I guess? (It isn’t)

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#1305446
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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DominicCobb said:

Has anyone checked against the stills pulled from the Reliance reel that started this thread so many years ago? I know the obvious assumption is that it’s their work, but it might be worth confirming.

I believe Pablo confirmed this on twitter? There was only one 4K restoration being done when Lucas still owned Lucasfilm and it was by Reliance. The fact he was able to pinpoint it as “The 4K one” solely by hearing about MacLunkey basically eliminates any other option.

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#1305317
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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ChainsawAsh said:

JEDIT: Default forced subs suck. I tweaked them to look okay (200% size, depressed font edge, 0% background opacity), but they still alternate seemingly at random between the top and bottom of the screen, which is super annoying. And they are parly in, partly out of the letterboxing no matter what you do.

How did you manage to change them? I can’t even find a setting in the app to adjust… basically ANYTHING

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#1305226
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> - <em><strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong></em>
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But there are legitimately well shot, well photographed, well-lit and well framed Marvel movies. Especially in the last couple years. Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther… those are legitimately good looking movies.

The idea that Greig Fraser shot a poor looking television show just… I don’t get it. I don’t know by what metric you could possibly be judging that by. It looks just as good as his work on Rogue One, and his work on Rogue One looks amazing, period. It doesn’t look good “For a Star Wars movie” but it looked good as in “this is one of the most notable examples of photography for the entire year of 2016”

This is the same guy shooting Dune for Denis Villenueve, btw.

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#1305206
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I feel like trying to properly judge stuff like fine detail and film grain via ANY stream is probably a recipe for inaccuracies. Disney+ might have a very good compression algorithm but it’s still going to be very compressed compared to what we’ll actually get on the UHD/BD set next year. Color/Contrast is going to be a much more fair assessment to make.

I just looked at Empire Strikes Back and the very famous “we fixed the opacity during the snowspeeder attack” lie is still a lie - you can still see through the canopies. I always thought it was funny they went out of their way on the LD and VHS documentaries to point out how they “fixed” that, and all they really did is tell people exactly where to look to see it still there when they put the actual movie on.

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#1305097
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I looked at Phantom Menace last night and I don’t THINK it was a new scan. But I’m not sure I trust myself to make that call, either.

I’m also pretty curious about the garbage mattes (or the cockpit transparencies in ESB, which despite being made a key part of the documentary that came with the Special Edition sets, never really got fixed all the way so far as I remember) - I’m sure comparisons are coming shortly.

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#1305066
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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I think classifying both Feige and Johnson’s projects as “on hold” isn’t really accurate. Both are in very early stages of development, with go-aheads still to be determined.

Further, describing Johnson’s project as “has not been officially canceled” seems a little weird to me. It implies there’s an unofficial cancellation that we’re not talking about.

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#1305053
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[Official] All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 4KSE with more changes
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CatBus said:

In my sense of the term (described earlier), it makes sense. Are you talking about the originals or not? “Special Edition” means “not”, so it works for everything from 1997 onward,

You’d have to start with 1981 then. Which wasn’t called a Special Edition either.

The 1997 version is the only one that’s actually a Special Edition. Comparing the Special Editions to MST3K is just hyperbolic. I get not liking all the changes, but the idea that most of the movie got changed really doesn’t make any sense. Most of the movie is still there, and still intact. over 90% of each film is essentially the same as it was when they finished post-production in 77, 80, and 83. Fixing VFX, re-adding deleted scenes, and making VFX content changes on top of the film restoration isn’t the same as writing a comedy script and performing it non-stop over the soundtrack. One is a satirical transformation of the work into a completely different thing. The other is the 1997 release, named as “Special Edition”

All the other editions of the film are just that - variations. It makes much more sense to simply refer to the year their visual changes were adopted than to call half of the editions by a name they never had.

edit: FWIW I know this is some tilting at windmills stuff. It’s a lost battle already. Just like “Han Shot First” and other bits of fandom lore that got cemented in place as the internet made sharing memes the primary mode of fan communication - “Special Edition” is no longer the title of a single re-release made in 1997, but a blanket condemnation on post-release changes in general, applied to ANY film ,and not just Star Wars. I get it.

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#1305025
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[Official] All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 4KSE with more changes
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I disagree because describing the less than 5-10 minutes total of changes to all 350+ minutes of the movies as a “remake” doesn’t seem fair or accurate, even accounting for the flexibility of language.

The 1997 versions are the only ones to be have the title “Special Edition” applied to it, so they’re the only “Special Editions” that have ever existed (they’re also, amazingly, now the most rare versions of Star Wars), and everything else is a version or iteration. There are so many versions of Star Wars at this point the idea of calling most of them “Special Editions” increasingly doesn’t make any sense. The editions themselves aren’t even special anymore. The only one that’s actually in any way Special is the one with that title, that got theatrically released in 1997 and was sold/promoted on the basis of the changes they notified us of in advance, which is still the only time they’ve actually done that. And is, again, now the rarest, hardest-to-find version of the film.

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#1305023
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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DavidMDaut said:

I also get the impression that a lot of folks at Lucasfilm would love to see the original versions released, but they don’t want to thumb their noses at Lucas’s clearly and repeatedly stated desire to have the revised versions be the only ones widely available.

I know a couple people at Lucasfilm have said as much publicly, as well. It’s not a contractual thing, or a stipulation, or any of that. They just don’t wanna piss him off if they don’t have to, and they don’t have to. So they won’t.

Doesn’t mean they won’t ask every now and again, like they did for the 70mm re-release. And maybe they also asked, right around the same time, about putting the originals on as a bonus feature for the 2020 UHD/BD set. Who knows. They maybe didn’t. But they might have done.

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#1305012
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Because that would have necessitated pressing up completely new discs with that completely new master, as opposed to the more cost-effective measure - simply repackaging already produced discs. I’m guessing they’d already decided by that point to forgo a whole new release until after the Saga was finished and they’d have those “new” masters pressed to disc then, after selling the Fox backstock through as much as possible in the meantime.

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#1305001
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> - <em><strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong></em>
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Why not? All they have to do is look backwards. “We have access to cloning. What should we clone. What did they clone LAST time they cloned something. What if we cloned something DIFFERENT?”

The show has already gone, and will return again, to Clone War period. It’s a pretty organic throughline if they choose to follow it. “Find me a Yoda” “We need it alive” “Well, even if we get one dead, I’m sure we can do something with it.”

or maybe I’m off entirely. Probably am. But it seems to me like there’s some built-in parallels there if you tie the protecting of this potential Imperial Target to this guy whose life and culture was irrevocably altered by the events of the Clone War.