Brahmmuel L Jackson

Oh, nevermind. I just felt like I was choking your creativity for a moment.

Try using the original "oblique" logo. I think it's more fitting. Also for the ESB one, perhaps a Hoth rebel trooper would suit better.

That's really nice. Love the minimalist approach but I think it would go better with SW instead of ESB.

Jesus, dude, it was just a suggestion. It's your work in the end, so feel free to do whatever you like. No need to rush without reading other people's opinions first.

Not showing properly? Here's a new link then.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6250/returnofthejediver1.jpg

That looks pretty sweet alright. I'm quite surprised on how well you managed to clean the image for hi-res. Quality-wise it looks even better than the ESB one, I think.

And for the blokes trying to create something to go along with AvP's bobba fett cover: in my opinion the trick is to find a single icon that is able to symbolize the whole movie without expressing any action directly. My suggestion for ROTJ would be a vector conversion/redesign of this:

The green lightsaber (although here it looks more it's blue). Is easily one of the most recognizable elements of ROTJ. Not only is the weapon of the Jedi, with the colour that symbolizes hope, it also brings us back to that magic moment when Luke activates his new lightsaber for the 1st time (and more recently to the missing lightsaber construction scene). It's simple, easy-to-understand, and carries a whole lotta meaning.

So far the best I could find are these:

http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?SystemID=2600&SoftwareID=1348&BoxStyleID=26&ItemTypeID=BOX

These look nice, but a bick lackluster. The vectoring on the 1st one is great, but it takes too much room. Chainsaw's is closer to AvP's, but the luke vs vader pic rendered in inkblot style is a bit too busy and contrasts with the simple white background. What was great about AvP's covers was the iconoclastic simplicity.

Also anyone care to try for an atari inspired one? Since AvP used a scan of the Atari ESB game cartridge, I was hoping for someone brave enough to do the same with the one from the ROTJ game:

*EDIT*

I found these too. Couldn't get a proper scan but they seem pretty nifty. Keep in mind I resized all of these.

Bingowings said:

The thread and the forum are fine.

I voted before people made comments so I'll add this.

Aliens is a solid action film but it's cinematic and artistic merits are well below Alien in my opinion.

The first film is better directed, better acted, better scored, has better art direction and is better shot.

Aliens has the same B-movie roots as the first film but it is more of a direct translation of the films that inspired it (it's Them! 80's style).

Alien took a B-movie style plot and elevated it to a piece of serious cinema (it's only superficially It The Terror From Beyond Space for the 70's).

I think Aliens deals with some new meaningful themes that weren't present in the 1st one. It's definitely more than just Alien with more guns and more aliens. There's the motherhood theme present on Ripley's relationship with Newt after having "lost" her own daughter which meets its counterside on the alien queen, who was simply trying to protect her brood. The futility of war/disposable soldiers theme is also a major topic introduction and a direct critic to the ruthlessness of many governments/corporations when trying to protect their own selfish interests. For emphasizing this effect the art theme tried to make the soldiers look like a futuristic version of the vietnam era soldiers which, along with the quality of the special effects, also forces me to disagree with the better art direction on the 1st movie.

Again, the problem is overshadowing. The impact of the action scenes may lead the audience to ignore more meaningful aspects, but this doesn't mean Aliens lacks essence. The movie is as thematically deep, if not more than Alien. However it was Cameron's bad habit on adding cardboard-cutouts-for-characters (like he did on Titanic and Avatar, especially on the villain side) that lead to many other problems like poor acting.

As for direction, and shooting it's a bit hard to comment on which one is better considering MJpollard's opinion (as I haven't completely discarded it). Since one is more horror/suspense oriented while the other favors action, there's a different approach required for both.

Alek hasn't showed up for a while, so kindly quit bumping this thread. Be patient. If he ever returns, I'm sure he will post in it. If not, I guess you all just need to learn to live with it.

Alien 3

Aliens 4

I admit Alien builds up suspense a lot better, but then again it had the advantage of being the 1st one. Ridley Scott did a great work on building this incredible ominous atmosphere, and fill it with a clever deconstruction of the "body snatcher" cliché, but heavy tone of the film is severely diluted outside of a cinema or projection room, unless you're watching it alone at night in complete darkness. Most of its entertainment value is lost after watching it for the first time, and after that the movie is mainly worth for technical details and plot innovation. Additionally it will also appear to be a lot more boring, unless you're realy into that sort of thing.

Aliens, on the other hand, maxes up the entertainment by spicing it with a lot of great action scenes and plenty of crowning moments of awesome. This might be a classic audience catering move, but surprisingly it doesn't wash away the metaphoric aspects of the original plot, as the main real-life paralels established in the 1st movie are still present and fairly well done, although a bit overshadowed by the action itself (it's not a perfect movie after all).  Aliens also does make use of a few streamlined characters for the sake of audience emotion exploitation (like Burke or Newt), but if you're contemplating a movie as both an artistic and entertainment experience, you have to learn to tollerate these, as sometimes they're necessary gimmicks to capture the general public attention, as cheesy as some details may sound.

All in all the main point in favor of Aliens is that it's the kind of movie you can watch anytime, with anyone, due to being a fairly well-directed blend between horror, suspense and action. Pick both movies and try watching them on a saturday night with your regular non-movie intelectual friends. What will likely happen is that they will get bored after 30 minutes of Alien hide-and-seek, but will scream "F*CK YEAH PVT. VASQUEZ!" the second you show 'em the Aliens dvd box.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

We really REALLY need an FAQ.

Or we could simply redirect new users to savestarwars.com since it has most of these details explained, along with a comprehensive story of the fan restoration phenomenon.

ROTJ is currently being reconstructed by Harmy. You can already get the NTSC DVD5 version if you ask him nicely, although you might want to wait for the DVD9 version. As for ANH, Adywan previously announced plans for a later reconstruction, so it's really just a matter of time and patience, I guess.

ChainsawAsh said:

I don't think they will until more people have Blu-Ray players than DVD players.

They said the GOUT set would be "limited" and would be pulled from stores after a certain amount of time.  That was five years ago, and I still see them on the shelf at Target all the time.  Not to mention the "trilogy" box set that includes them.

Not to mention blu-ray conversion frequently involves HD remastering which slows the spreading a lot, I think. The DVD itself had a slow start too, but the later quick and cheap digitalizations of previous VHS versions really boomed the format.

luke.the.darkside.is.fun said:

TV's Frink said:

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what? LOL

That means "thread closed".

aw ye.

TV's Frink said:

If you want to get along with everyone, you should try not insulting people by calling them names.

It also will help you stick around.

Indeed. It's just that it's hard to understand what you're saying without proper punctuation and capital letters. It will also help you to write better, so it's pretty much a win/win situation. Besides, we're the ones who are taking shit from you right now.

And for god's sake, use some punctuation on your sentences!

PUNCTUATION, M**********. DO YOU USE IT?

Either way considering you're only using paint I'd say these are not bad. But jesus, you can't expect us to print something that blurry. Get yourself a decent image editor and do it all over. You don't necessarily need photoshop. GIMP is absolutely free and almost as powerful. Not that you're gonna need a lot of advanced features to do a simple DVD cover.

Added some text. Sry brahs.

this.

We're doomed!

So what was actually not changed from the SE?

I will wait for the PAL then. Keep up the good work brah, and good luck for your finals.

Harmy said:

Didn't I just say that? :-)

Oh sry, skipped that line.