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#245603
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Info Wanted: Anyone going to combine the SE and 2006 OT DVD?
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…to get an edition of the film that has restored picture, yet still has Greedo NOT shooting, original DS battle, Boba’s voice, Sebastain Shaw ect. ect.???

I dunno, it would be pretty cool to see an enhanced OOT, that would mostly anamorphic, with 5.1 sound.

I know the gray area has gotten smaller regarding fan edits/preservation, so I’m not sure if I’m saying anything wrong…but it would be cool to see.

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#208372
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Soundtrack for Star Wars OOT DVD?
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Originally posted by: BountyHunter

what was the bitrate for the 04 DVDs?

Furthermore, would the 2.0 decoded into pro-logic sound nearly as good as the 6-track (70mm) audio?

Bitrate for the 2.0 tracks on the 2004 DVDs was 192kbps, which is pretty much the standard for 2.0 tracks. Some companies have used 384 kbps, but not many.

In answer to your second question, a 2.0 track, by nature of its design, is not going to sound as good as 6-track 70mm. It may come close to sounding like Dolby Stereo in a theatre (4 track surround matrixed into two tracks), but it will lack the "baby boom" elements of a 6-track 70mm track. For that, you would need a 4.1 DD track.

Keep in mind that Dolby Digital (AC-3) is a lossy compession system, so something of the original tracks will inevitably be lost. The only way to come close to the original theatrical sound experience is to use a lossless audio codec, like Dolby TrueHD, which uses MLP (Meridian Lossless Processing) for compression.


Which LD release had the best bitrate? Or were they all 2.0, 192kbps

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#208356
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John William's Opinion on the Special Editions
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But it gets even more complicated than that, I just remembered! The special effects shots were filmed in a 1.88:1 ratio, so you're actually seeing the full image of special effects shots in the widescreen version while the fullscreen version crops them! So basically, in either version, you're losing some parts of the picture... which sucks.


Damn...Damn, damn!
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#208355
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: hairy_hen
It is a significant goof, because in particular the music underscoring Fett's line "put captain Solo in the cargo hold" is extremely choppy. Allowed to run as composed it is one of my favourite musical segments in the entire collected SW score, but the 35 mm mix botches it. I don't know why, because it doesn't even compress it for time for that part, just alters it in a bad way.



Exactly, I love Williams score in that scene, but hearing the 35mm is like nails on a chalkboard...and there is absolutley no justification for it either, it runs just perfectly in the SE, where all the music cues match what's happening on screen.



BTW - Does anyone know for sure that this part was orginally correct for the 70mm? I know we heard it correctly on the SE, but it could of been altered.
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#208331
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Oh yeah, now i remember, when i saw the SE when Slave I flies away the music continued all the way back to the Vader duel. Personally i felt the 35 version was way stronger with just silence. We see Leia's face looking at the ship in horror with the muted sounds of laser fire in the background underscoring her defeat. The inclusion of the music in this part was very cacophonous and doesn't mix well with artoos screams and all the blaster fire. To each his own i suppose.



But the music was all choppy and hacked up...IMO it's a worse offense than the muted force theme that plays during the battle of Yavin. Worst goof in the OOT.
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#208330
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John William's Opinion on the Special Editions
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
In this case, Zemeckis has sometimes stated things to the extent that he intended the movie not to be wide, so it's debatable. There aren't any mistakes in the full frame.



Originally posted by: bad_karma24
You should watch films in whatever the director intends. In the case of BTTF, you should get the widescreen versions.


Wait, I'm getting conflicting info here, which is the way the movie was intended to be seen...Full or Wide?
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#208228
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John William's Opinion on the Special Editions
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
You see, the BTTF movies were shot in an open matte ratio. Rather than being filmed in a 1.88:1 ratio, they were filmed in Academy (and TV) standard 1.33:1 with the top and bottom cropped for theatrical release.



So wait just a second...the full screen presentation shows MORE of the movie than the widescreen presentation? So this is one of the very few cases where it's better to have full screen.