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#1033350
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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RossDaBoss said:

skoal said:

RossDaBoss said:

You might want to hold off doing a Superman 3 just yet as a I have a higher quality source tape (Superman III - ITV MAY-07-1990). I also have another tv broadcast coming in the post this week. I’ll add more info soon.

More info please…

I’ve now received the other tape and it turns out to be the first UK broadcast of Superman III - ITV (HTV) SEP-05-1985. I believe both tapes are higher quality then the current fanmade releases on Mysleen. I hope to upload some pics or a video sample over the weekend.

Very cool, looking forward to checking it out.

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#1032265
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Chewtobacca said:

I love ya, Booshbaby, but you’re hard work sometimes. 😄 😄 😄 (I am too, I know.)

supes

Ah, so dropping in the footage as is, but within the black border of the original film. So the sides drop out during the added footage?

It’s one way of doing it is suppose. My preference for part 3 would just be completely 4:3.

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#1031716
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Chewtobacca said:

Booshman said:For Superman III, the extra footage is only available in 4:3 and pillarboxing that footage to fit the original aspect ratio cuts off too much image to be worth watching for me.

You don’t have to cut off any of the image. The 4:3 footage can be pillarboxed and letterboxed. This is what I was trying to explain before. I’ve seen it done, and it works better than you might think. (But, of course, I understand that some people don’t like it.)

I misread the previous post, I was thinking letterboxing the 4:3 footage to match the rest of the bluray footage, so cutting a lot off the top and bottom.

What do you mean by pillarboxed and letter boxed, can you show me how it would look by aletering this image to compare?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/yO4oibp.jpg[/img]

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#1031470
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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skoal said:

Hi, I would like to see SIII RIC with the TV scenes pillar-boxed. This ever been released?

I think it’s only really worth doing in 4:3. For Superman III, the extra footage is only available in 4:3 and pillarboxing that footage to fit the original aspect ratio cuts off too much image to be worth watching for me. It is possible to go widescreen for part 2 since a lot of footage is now released thanks to the Donner Cut, deleted scenes and the new “extended Donner Cut”.

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#1029646
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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PlatB said:

Booshman said:

I’m going with the scaled down option to preserve the 4:3 ratio and so I don’t have to alter the pan and scan composition to account for the reframing.

Yeah, it looks fine. I would be much more concerned about slight resizing BDs of digital films from recent years where pixel-level sharpness is already dialed in.

I managed to re-NTSC the clip using avisynth.
https://mega.nz/#!SwYjiBDD!WcUZxy7NFgKp7se_kubOnXkHtQ40L98cuWErgg8zD1I

mpeg2source(“ABC RIC 2.demuxed.d2v”)
yadif(mode=3) #smartbob
repal() #returns a 24.975 clip
AssumeFPS(24000,1001) #slows the clip back to its original film speed
BilinearResize(640,480, 10.0, 0.0, 704.0, 480.0)

The frame blending is baked in, but the combination of a smartbob (either yadif mode 1 or 3, and they seemed about the same in output) and the old repal plugin is probably as good as it gets.

Thanks a lot for that. I’ll have a go with some of the other missing footage and see how it comes out. How would the script need to be altered for a PAL source, to get it to 23.976fps with the same smartbob result? I would like to do a comparison against another source I have.

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#1029092
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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Here’s a comparison of what it looks like scaled down to vertically fit 720P, and what it looks like cropped without resizing the 1080P source.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/PedCHKT.jpg[/img]

I’m going with the scaled down option to preserve the 4:3 ratio and so I don’t have to alter the pan and scan composition to account for the reframing.

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#1028343
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Chewtobacca said:

You can’t IVTC it successfully, because it’s field blended. You need to use something such as SRestore(). There are alternatives, but they are all much of a muchness.

LoadCplugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth\plugins\yadif.dll")
Mpeg2Source()
AssumeTFF()
Yadif(mode=1)#or QTGMC or whatever
SRestore()

I get confused about the history of the different TV versions. Was this the version that was edited/reconstructed in PAL and then converted to NTSC or was that the RIC? You might have to adjust the script to specify a frame-rate. At present, it’s returning 25fps.

Cheers for that, I’ll have a look.

For the history of the RIC, I know multiple tapes of different airings were used to add in the missing bits to a retail VHS capture. Whether the project was completed in PAL and an NTSC conversion was done, or the other way around, I don’t know.

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#1028340
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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Molly said:

Got a fairly precise tag on that ABC recording: WXYZ (Detroit, MI), April 20 1986; broadcast started at 8 pm, but about an hour is missing, not including commercials.

Pan-scanning is proving to be the most tedious part. That said, the two TV sources I already had do not have identical cropping, so perhaps it was done further down the line.

As you don’t have the bluray yet, what source are you panning and scanning?

TylerDurden389 said:

Boosh, that clip you posted, that’s not the copy you’re using and trying to fix up, is it? I bought a 2 disc copy of the RIC back in like 2003 and it looks leaps and bounds better than that. I’d be happy to upload it for ya, if you want.

The clip is from the an ABC capture. I already have the 2 disc version of the RIC. The blended fields is an issue present on both of the versions. Once I have that sorted out I can properly compare them but I think the ABC version has the potential to look better than the RIC. There is dirt removal and recolouring to do, but I think it can be made to look pretty good.

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#1027452
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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I’ve checked the ABC footage, and after being IVTC it still has the interlaced look. Again, this is only for newly inserted footage. I’m thinking this was an issue with how the thing was broadcast in the first place.

Here’s a sample clip

https://mega.nz/#!BEsnhJTR!TyJHGklhVPaAP9DBudo3J6gokYT_QzTftf96K6Wu7Co

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#1027408
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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The versions on myspleen are all the ones I mentioned previously.

Yorkshire TV version. (Single layer DVD)
BLAX version. (Single layer DVD)
Unknown source PAL capture (2 x Single layer DVD)
1986 ABC version (Single layer DVD) (missing first 50 minutes)

The best looking is the ABC version. The unknown source 2 disc version only has the forst disc on the spleen. I have the second disc, I’ll put it on there shortly.

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#1027349
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Chewtobacca said:

To be honest, I don’t understand exactly how the ABC and RIC differ. I know that the latter has some shots that are missing from the former, but is the reverse true? I wonder if there’s a comparison of the two somewhere.

The RIC should be the longest possible version. I think it was based on an Australian broadcast. I’m not definite if that version was the longest ever and the ABC cut is similar but shorter, or if they had exclusive content in each. I’m sure there is nothing in the ABC cut that is missing from the RIC though

PlatB said:

Booshman said:

Does anyone have any tips on upscaling the DVD footage from the RIC? I have magicbullet for after effects, but if there is a better option I’d like to know. I need to increase the the size by 28%, and it would be nice for it to look as good as possible.

I am not sure about magicbullet’s resizing filters, but it might be worth trying against some of the avisynth plugins (a comparison was done a few years ago, archived here: http://archive.is/7bvQj ). One thing to keep in mind is that cleaner ratios scale better ie 25% upscaled probably comes out sharper than 28% (3 lines into every 4) - sometimes a slight black windowbox is the least worst option - though not ideal when mixing sources.

The makers of the original disc must have messed up somewhere in their workflow and it means there are a lot of frames that look like this:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZUak59n.jpg[/img]

Could this be sorted out with avisynth?

I have a fair amount of experience with deinterlacing across a variety of sources, but can’t tell what you are dealing with for certain without access to a short clip… but that ghosting appears to be blended fields (seen on some 24->PAL->23.976 conversions) in which case it is possible to bring back the original cadence (the old RePAL filter for Avisynth + a smartbob filter does the trick) but the footage will still have blurriness. Gets you back to 23.976 without dropped frames though.

In order to fill a 720P 4:3 frame vertically, the original 1080P source only needs to be scaled down to 96%.

I thought I would add that it makes more sense to trim the few lines off the 1080 source to make 720 rather than scaling it down 96%. You gain massively on image sharpness (very slight scaling does the most damage) and only lose 4% on the edges - hardly anything at all given what is already lost to the P&S process!

I was mistaken when I said 96%, it turned out to be 92%. I don’t want to lose 8%, and my pand and scan work is all complete at the size it is now, I don’t want to have to go back though it. Do you think it worth downscaling the video externally so it’s not down to Premiere to do it?

For the badly interlaced footage I’ll go through and see what scenes exactly are only available in the RIC and post them for you to have a crack at.

Chewtobacca said:

Booshman, another approach to integrating the 4:3 material into the BD footage is to pillarbox as well as letterbox it (after resizing it appropriately). That way, you can enjoy most of the film in widescreen. I’ve seen this done before, and it works. After all, the bulk of the film is unchanged, and the switch occurs only briefly for a few shots/sequences, which are going to stand out whatever you do. It would save you a great deal of work.

By the way how are you panning and scanning the film? It sounds as if you are managing to do it quite swiftly.

For the widescreen version I don’t want to have to just letterbox the footage. It will look bad and I think I can get better results combining footage to create some new shots.

The pan and scanning I have done by keyframeing in Premiere.

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#1027114
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Chewtobacca said:

Booshman said:
I made that dual layer version, which I sourced from the original PAL release. So the intelacing problem is present on that version too. My suspicion would be that it was also present on the original 2 disc NTSC version too. I hope there is a way to undo it but we may be stuck with it.

I didn’t know that there was a 2-disc NTSC original – I thought that the PAL original was later converted to NTSC. Could some of the footage that you need be taken from the ABC cut?

You know I’d forgotten I had that source. I have both discs of the ABC version that was on myspleen. The picture quality is really good. It will need some dirt removal, but it might be better than the RIC. Thre are some bits missing though, I’ll have to check though it.

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#1027009
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Molly said:

NTSC 1-disc version. Used to have the NTSC 2-disc version it was based on but I lost it.

I don’t think I’ve run into any issues importing stuff into Avisynth to do my tests…

I made that dual layer version, which I sourced from the original PAL release. So the intelacing problem is present on that version too. My suspicion would be that it was also present on the original 2 disc NTSC version too. I hope there is a way to undo it but we may be stuck with it.

Just to be clear, I can import the DVD into avisynth fine, but when the rest of the movie shows correctly after IVTC, the additional parts still look interlaced.

I’ve made some colour correction progress thanks to Dr Dre’s colour matching tool.

Here’s a pic from the Theatrical cut
[img]http://i.imgur.com/66BfQAT.png[/img]

Here’s my colour corrected version of that shot
[img]http://i.imgur.com/TrkInor.png[/img]

Here’s the equivalent from TRDC
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gupogZ3.png[/img]

And finally TRDC shot matched to my CC Theatrical shot
[img]http://i.imgur.com/krnN6Aq.png[/img]

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#1026957
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Molly said:

Booshman said:

To be bluray compliant I’m going with 1280x720 (pillarboxed) for the 4:3 version, and 1920x1080 for the widescreen.

Does anyone have any tips on upscaling the DVD footage from the RIC? I have magicbullet for after effects, but if there is a better option I’d like to know. I need to increase the the size by 28%, and it would be nice for it to look as good as possible.

Also, I don’t know how possible it is, but is there any way of sorting out the interlacing that is present in the added footage. The DVD is interlaced. When I open it in TMPGEnc and turn on de-interlace, all of the footage shows as de-interlaced apart from the new stuff. The makers of the original disc must have messed up somewhere in their workflow and it means there are a lot of frames that look like this:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZUak59n.jpg[/img]

Could this be sorted out with avisynth?

How good results would nnedi3_rpow2(2) look, giving you 1440x960 out of the vob?

The ISO I have of the RIC is progressive, though I usually have DGIndex process everything as actual 30i, and then go in and ivtc it in Avisynth.

In some particular bad cases, I’ve been able to use qtgmc and/or srestore to fix some interlacing/telecine issues. No idea if this will fix your specific problem.

I’ll have look and see if that helps. Which version of the RIC do you have? Mine is the PAL 2 disc version. Do you have the same interlacing issue with the added footage?

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#1026480
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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To be bluray compliant I’m going with 1280x720 (pillarboxed) for the 4:3 version, and 1920x1080 for the widescreen.

Does anyone have any tips on upscaling the DVD footage from the RIC? I have magicbullet for after effects, but if there is a better option I’d like to know. I need to increase the the size by 28%, and it would be nice for it to look as good as possible.

Also, I don’t know how possible it is, but is there any way of sorting out the interlacing that is present in the added footage. The DVD is interlaced. When I open it in TMPGEnc and turn on de-interlace, all of the footage shows as de-interlaced apart from the new stuff. The makers of the original disc must have messed up somewhere in their workflow and it means there are a lot of frames that look like this:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZUak59n.jpg[/img]

Could this be sorted out with avisynth?

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#1026431
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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Molly said:

Booshman said:

Molly said:

Just got to thinking. I know there’s a cap of Superman 3 from some ITV affiliate - are there any other caps of the extended cut in circulation? I’m wondering if perhaps another cap could be used to compensate for flaws in the one I have.

As far as I know I have all available version of Superman 3 TV version that have been put to DVD

Yorkshire TV version. (Single layer DVD)

This is the one I had, and referred to as from “some ITV affiliate”. The tape it comes from seems to be somewhat worn (but the audio, while muffly, is adequate, and the video is certainly watchable).

BLAX version. (Single layer DVD)
Unknown source PAL capture (2 x Single layer DVD)
1986 ABC version (Single layer DVD) (missing first 50 minutes)

These I was not aware of.

I think this version is currently the best all around quality version you can get although it isn’t complete. I hadn’t noticed until after it was released, but the “Smallville Flash” part of the drinking scene is missing. It’s present in the BLAX version and the YTV version, but not the ABC or 2 disc PAL version. It’s probably worth going though all versions just to see if there are any other bits exclusive to the different captures.

I don’t disagree. Isn’t that basically how the Superman 2 RIC was cut together?

I think a best version could be created using the movie and deleted scenes from the bluray, and filling in the rest from VHS. It would be nice to get a good quality source to work from, particularly for those 50 minutes missing from the ABC cut, but idealy the whole thing.

Again, I agree.

Not having the BD yet, I don’t know how much that would entail.

I’ve made some progress on Superman 2. I have pan and scanned about 2 hours of the bluray to recreate the TV cut. Still need to do the last half hour. The whole thing is going to need colour correcting to match all of the different sources. I’ve used the opening and end credits from a HDTV rip since the whites are blown out on the bluray and they look bad. I’ve also done this for a few shots where detail is lost from the blow out, explosions and stuff like that. The VHS footage still needs to be upscaled and added in. I’m looking into how to do that in best quality.

You’re well ahead of me, since I’m still analyzing the different cuts to decide if there’s anything I can use the Donner cut for (and color matching would certainly be a pain for some scenes, where you can’t take the video from a single source).

I really noticed this when trying to cut together the “mission control” sequence (with the “hair dryer” joke from the Donner cut after most of the scene from the Lester cut and then a piece of shot from the RIC).

One thing you’ll notice when you get the bluray is that the theatrical cut’s colour timing is completely different to the DVD master and also looks nothing like the Donner Cut. The colours on the blurays are all over the place. Superman the movie extended version and TRDC being the least affected. The theatrical cut of 1 and 2, and movies 3 and 4 look drastically different to how they looked before, with skin toines and Superman’s suit looking very off.

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/113310799378452361657/album/AF1QipO-sRwYeXR___xOAV-wvWTiKb__JxsTWFFjCHaQ

I’ve completely recoloured 3 and 4 already, and have some work done on the Lester version. I don’t just want to match it to the Donner version though, as that looks a bit off. Colours are too saturated, the fortress looks blue, etc. I want to tweak the Donner Cut and try to get as close to that with the lester version.

I’ve finished the pan and scan, and it looks pretty good. There is more visible image than on a lot of the RIC, so for parts with bluray footage you will see more than before. Interestingly though, there are a few places where the RIC footage shows more information on the far left of the picture than the bluray. I also noticed that a couple of the extended scenes, the prison escape, and the “Jimmy’s new camera” deleted scene, play at the wrong speed in the RIC. They’re slower by 4%, so whoever made the RIC has inadvertently compensated for PAL speedup on an NTSC source when there was no need. I ended up going with 720P as the output, so I don’t have to upscale the whole movie. In order to fill a 720P 4:3 frame vertically, the original 1080P source only needs to be scaled down to 96%.

Regarding the Superman 3 RIC, a lot of the deleted scenes are on the bluray, but not all. They are 4:3 SD, but from a good master. They could be used to fill in a lot of gaps. The main component missing to do a great quality composite is the beginning space credits and the opening sequence without the regular credits overlayed.

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#1025844
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Molly said:

Just got to thinking. I know there’s a cap of Superman 3 from some ITV affiliate - are there any other caps of the extended cut in circulation? I’m wondering if perhaps another cap could be used to compensate for flaws in the one I have.

By the way, I’ve been doing comparison shots to try to determine the best approach for certain scenes in Superman 2.

As far as I know I have all available version of Superman 3 TV version that have been put to DVD

Yorkshire TV version. (Single layer DVD)
BLAX version. (Single layer DVD)
Unknown source PAL capture (2 x Single layer DVD)
1986 ABC version (Single layer DVD) (missing first 50 minutes)

I also released a version which combined the the firt 50 minutes from PAL capture and the 1986 ABC version. The ABC version is the best picture quality of them and contains the original commercials. I edited those out and added the missing beginning from the second best quality source.

I think this version is currently the best all around quality version you can get although it isn’t complete. I hadn’t noticed until after it was released, but the “Smallville Flash” part of the drinking scene is missing. It’s present in the BLAX version and the YTV version, but not the ABC or 2 disc PAL version. It’s probably worth going though all versions just to see if there are any other bits exclusive to the different captures.

I think a best version could be created using the movie and deleted scenes from the bluray, and filling in the rest from VHS. It would be nice to get a good quality source to work from, particularly for those 50 minutes missing from the ABC cut, but idealy the whole thing.

I’ve made some progress on Superman 2. I have pan and scanned about 2 hours of the bluray to recreate the TV cut. Still need to do the last half hour. The whole thing is going to need colour correcting to match all of the different sources. I’ve used the opening and end credits from a HDTV rip since the whites are blown out on the bluray and they look bad. I’ve also done this for a few shots where detail is lost from the blow out, explosions and stuff like that. The VHS footage still needs to be upscaled and added in. I’m looking into how to do that in best quality.

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#1023402
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Molly said:

Given that the deleted scenes on the Donner BD are still anamorphic SD MPEG2 (two of them, at least, are in the RIC), would you clean them up or use the RIC versions?

I know the “Son of Jor-el, prepare to die” sequence is identical to the RIC. I haven’t checked the “Arctic Patrol” scene.

I have them cleaned up, recoloured and upscaled for use in my Superman 2 fanedit, so I would use that version of them. I can send you those if you like?

TylerDurden389 said:

Booshman said:

Here’s an example of a scene with alternate takes and angles used. Some trims and alterations to the timing have been made to keep things in sync.

https://vimeo.com/196940170

Nice work there Boosh.

Cheers

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#1023350
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Molly said:

I think it may take two different approaches to do the two edits depending on whether I want quality or authenticity.

The “alpha waves/pasta fazoli” shot seems to be different in all three cuts (the OTV lacks the “pasta fazoli” part, which both the RIC and RDC have, but the RIC and RDC are obviously different takes, as marked by Otis’s slightly different reaction to the mention of alpha waves). Most likely for an authentic cut I’d need to use the RIC footage, but for a high quality cut, the RDC would be a better choice.

Definitely, there are shots that have equivalent footage that could stand in for what is missing. Some alternate angles work fine as is, some would have to be retimed to make them fit the pacing of different line readings. Then there is other stuff that’s only in the RIC that would require that source.

I think there are some shots that could be made into widescreen using an existing shot and doing head/ body replacement with RIC footage. For example Superman’s line “Somehow I just can’t hear you Zod” could be made using shot from “I’m not a coward Zod”, and replacing his head with RIC footage. Similarly, Zod’s "It is extremely likely you are merely a fool, like father, like son”, could be created using the background from the shot where Zod looks up to and uses his heat vision.

The 2 versions I’m thinking of right now are:

Complete purist: Using blurays for available footage, upscaled RIC for the rest. 4:3 presentation.

Best quality: Using blurays for all footage, some shots alternate takes or angles, some shots created from combination of RIC and bluray. Shots that can’t be created due to zero available footage, like the Concorde scene, are cut. 16x9 presentation

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#1023335
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TylerDurden389 said:

Boosh, don’t forget that Zod’s speech in the FOS ("Did you really think we’d give up our advatnage? No!!"etc…) in the RIC was a different line reading. It’s Stamp’s original voice in a higher pitch. In the theatrical, his voice is in a lower pitch, and he delivers the line in a bit more of a humorous tone. I prefer the RIC version.

Yeah that’s true, but the list I made isn’t a list of differences, it’s a list to show what footage (video wise) isn’t available in the theatrical or Donner Cut. I’ve taken the audio from the RIC and synced as much footage as possible with bluray sources. In the example you mentioned the line reading is different, but the video is still the same take as the theatrical cut, so there is no footage missing, and why it’s not on the list.

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#1022896
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Molly said:

(This may be already well known to most people, but reflects my analysis of the RIC while reconstructing it.)

I’ve analyzed up to 23 minutes and afaict this is all exclusive:

  • The Concorde scene, this is documented (16:17-16:45)
  • 2 additions to the “juicer” scene in the Daily Planet offices
    • 21:57-22:02 (two shots)
      Lois: "Nobody knows it, that’s all"
      Clark: "Heh…"
      Lois: “Especially not you”
    • 22:15-22:25
      Clark: "Why don’t you get one of those automatic ones, Lois? It’d be a little bit easier"
      Lois: “Don’t you know there’s an energy crisis on, Clark? Besides…it’s good enough for my mother”

Don’t mean to tread on your toes, but here is my analysis of the missing footage. All of the following is missing footage. Instances where there is an alternate take or angle available are noted. It won’t be possible to use all of these due to timing differences, but there will be some workarounds that can be done.

Superman flies to Paris:

• Concorde scene

Lois Office:

• “Nobody know it that’s all…especially not you”
• “Why don’t you get one of those automatic ones Lois, it’d be easier”/ “Don’t you know there’s an energy crisis on Clark, besides if it was good enough for my mother”
• “Perhaps I could help you there Lois” (alternate angle)

Prison Laundry:

• “Otis, you brain defies any know scientific laws in its infinite capacity to deteriorate”
• “Every man has his vulnerable point, some” (Otis reaction shot here in theatrical)
• “What’s it for?”/ “That little black box goes beyond any known connectional radar, it tracks alpha waves”/ “Oh alpha waves”/ “I could have said it tracked pasta fazool couldn’t I”/ “Oh with garlic Mr Luthor and that butter, so good” (alternate take)

Mission Control:

• “You’re looking old for your age…it looks like ordinary electrical interference”

Moon:

• “And you will have everything you want”/ “Men to kill!”/ “And I will lead”

Prison Escape:

• Lex climbing ladder after stepping on Otis’ hand (continues slightly longer)
• Otis pulls ladder, Lex shouts to get off
• Otis steps through ladder (continues slightly longer)
• Lex shouts get off
• Otis grabbed by guards viewed from balloon (missing footage from beginning and end of shot)
• Guards stand Otis up

Niagara:

• Multiple establishing shots including tourists taking photos

Lex and Eve in the balloon:

• “A vacation, oh Lex I could go shopping, a bikini, I need a new bikini, you must have thought about me in a bikini while you were in prison” (Alternate take and changes to alternate angle)
• “No actually I thought about you in a Parka” (Alternate take)
• “You are sick Lex, you are really sick” (Alternate take)
• “That’s possible” (Alternate take)
• (ALL BALLON FOOTAGE FEATURES DAYTIME BACKGROUND PLATES)

Niagara Kid Falls:

• Guy messing around with camera and film
• Clark pays for hotdogs
• Lois walks away, Clark follows (long shot after “No orange juice”)

Lex approaches fortress:

• Skidoo almost at fortress rear shot
• Skidoo stops, Lex gets off
• Lex helps Ms Tesmacher (beginning missing due to fade in TRDC)

Lex enters the fortress:

• Lex slips on the ice (end missing)
• Lex steps down after “That was 2 days ago” (alternate take)
• “Frankly I think this place is a bit boring, it’s all white. Why doesn’t the guy put up some posters, maybe some bullfight things” (Alternate take)
• Lex monologue, from “Think of it” to “Right…Ms Tessmacher” (Alternate take/ angle)
• “She found it” (Alternate take/ Angle)

Villains meet cops:

• Dwayne sneaks around car to be confronted by Ursa

Army arrive in East Housten:

• Zod stands arms opened, says “Very well then, you may try” to Non
• Families around the world have their TV interrupted by Zod on the news
• Rear shot of Non, army guy gets a shot off
• Dwayne in the line of fire, waved away buy bazooka guys

Dinner in the fortress:
• Superman picks up soufflé (slight extension of scene)
• Lois takes night gown from her purse

Whitehouse Attack:

• “Everything is under control, nobody’s gonna get in here”
• Zod shoots as he walks out of frame/ Nixon portrait
• Non growls at the dogs

Driving back from the fortress:

• Long shot of car in snow (goes on slightly longer)
• Wide shot of mountains

Clark walks to the fortress:

• All shots after Clark is ignored by truck are edited in a different order. Fading between shots means all are somewhat incomplete

Lex at the Whitehouse:

• “Praying”/ “Yes to me!”
• Lex picks up Havana cigar and begins to sit

Villains at the Daily Planet:

• Jimmy takes a picture of Non (alternate angle)
• Jimmy bites Non, “Gosh darn it, that’s my brand new camera”
• “This is the son of Jor-El?” (alternate angle)
• Non picks up Jimmy (beginning of shot missing)
• “OK it’s Australia, it’s too much. I can turn over a new leaf, a tree, a whole forest”

Metropolis Battle:

• Staff look out of window (alternate take)
• Jimmy asks “You OK?” to Perry
• “Possibly not. I is extremely likely you are merely a fool, like father, like son”/ “Somehow I just can’t hear you Zod”
• “Is there another camera?”/ “No but there is a cup of coffee in there”/ “Get hima coffee Jimmy”
• Non chases Superman Zoptic shots
• “Kill Him!”
• Non chases Superman model shots (longer than in TRDC)
• Non (model) breaks piece off wall
• “Should have spiked it”

Villains return to the Daily Planet:

• Villains approach the DP/ Staff run to the windows (multiple alternate angles)
• “You heard him, three against one you shoulda…” (alternate take/ angle)
• “He fled in fear of us!” (alternate angle)
• “As long as he’s alive he’s gonna try again” (end of shot Lois lowers arm)
• “What do you want?”
• “I see the greed written…” (alternate take’/ angle)
• “What more?” (alternate take’/ angle)
• “Cuba” (alternate take’/ angle)

Villains in the fortress:

• “Superman this wasn’t my idea”/ “Accept your destiny Kal-El, as your father once condemned us, so now do we condemn his misbegotten brat”
• “General?”/ “We must combine our energy”
• “Beginning with er this one.”
• “Destroy this place”
• Lex points to Superman “Him, him, me? Lex Luthor?” (multiple alternate shots/ angles)
• “General, I helped you through the tough times remember?”
• “I don’t know what to think anymore, it’s not like the old days when it was just you and me”
• “You were totally honest and you wanted to destroy me, it was pure and simple, I respected you for that”/ “Well perhaps there is some good in you after all Lex Luthor”/ “I’m telling you I’m full of good, I never used any of it”/ “Alright, I’m just going to have to take that chance, now”
• “Seize him” (beginning of shot missing)
• “Kill her” (beginning of shot missing)
• “You win”
• Non throws Superman (alternate angle)
• Superman lands (alternate take)
• Zod nods to Ursa (alternate take)

Arctic Breakup:

• Superman and Lois land (alternate angles/ takes)
• Lois’s shocked reaction (alternate take)
• Superman turns around and walks to Lois (alternate take)
• “I mean I’d be buying my little rainbow at the expense of all those people who go help, come quick”
• Superman nods (missing footage end of shot)
• “ I mean it’s the old eternal triangle, only in this case I have all of humanity waiting in the next room”
• Superman’s reaction to Lois’ kiss (alternate take)
• Superman and Lois embrace (missing footage from beginning and end of shot)

Balcony Goodbye:

• Superman and Lois land (missing footage from beginning of shot)
• “Except maybe I won’t be quite so mean to you from now on” (alternate take)
• Lois looks at Superman (no tears)
• Superman takes a breath
• “You don’t have to worry, your secret’s safe with me, I’m not going to tell anyone who you really are” (alternate takes/ angles)
• Lois reaction shot (no tears)
• Superman touches Lois’ hair (beginning of shot missing)
• Superman walks past Lois (end of shot missing)
• Superman passes Lois (no tears)