Yes I own the complete Halloween Box Set so I own both the versions on BluRay, would love to get a copy of your edit on BluRay with case artwork and such… Very interested in seeing it.
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yes i own both theatrical and producers cut blu ray versions. id like to see your version
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I created a “Hybrid Cut” of Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers using the Blu-rays of the theatrical cut and Producer’s Cut. I spent a lot of time comparing them and used the parts that I thought worked best about each version.
Sources:
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Blu-ray (theatrical cut)
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Blu-ray (Producer’s Cut)
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Expanded Soundtrack (for one particular scene where I wanted to use the sound design of the theatrical cut with the music from the Producer’s Cut).
If anyone is interested in seeing this cut, please send me a PM. You must own the official Blu-rays of both versions!
Here are the details of my cut:
-Before the movie starts I inserted a shot of Loomis saying “I knew what he was, but I never knew why.” This shot was in the trailer but was cut out of both versions of the film. I always liked it so I decided to use it as a little intro.
- Opening title sequence is from P-Cut mixed with opening credits from T-Cut so that it goes by quicker.
- In the opening flashback from the P-Cut I removed the voiceover of the Man in Black saying “Jamie, come to me” and the shot of Michael being pulled into the van. These seemed a bit silly to me.
- All of the extra Loomis scenes from the P-Cut are used (except for the end).
- Music from both cuts is used.
- All death scenes are from the T-Cut (except for Jamie’s).
- I removed all the “flash cut” editing from the T-Cut.
- The scene where Jamie walks around at the bus stop has audio from the theatrical cut combined with music from the P-Cut. I ripped this piece of music from the soundtrack and added it in because in the P-Cut there’s also a lot of sounds of the baby crying which is kind of annoying.
- I used the T-Cut for the scene when Jamie walks around in the barn and sees Michael lit up by flashes of lightning and disappears, then I switched to the P-Cut so that Michael stabs her instead of drilling her to death.
- I used the extended breakfast scene from the P-Cut and then switched to the T-Cut when Kara’s dad slaps her because I thought it was creepier for Danny to hold the knife to his grandpa’s stomach without hearing “the voice” or seeing Michael outside.
- I fixed the part in the breakfast scene when Mrs. Strode mispronounces Kara’s name. She says “Kar-uh” instead of “Kare-uh.” I replaced it using audio from a later scene where she says it correctly.
- The song “And Fools Shine On” plays during the college scene and end credits.
- During Jamie’s flashback/dream sequence, I removed the shot that shows Michael about to impregnate her and replaced it with other footage, so now it’s a mystery who the father is (or maybe the baby is the result of a genetic experiment which is suggested at the end of the T-Cut).
- I used the P-Cut version of the scene when Michael chases Kara and Danny as they run away from the Myers house, which has the more traditional “Shape Stalks” music instead of the electric guitar, but I added in the shots from the T-Cut that show Michael lit up by flashes of lightning as he chases them.
- The dialogue near the end between Wynn and Loomis in Wynn’s office is from the P-Cut, but I removed Wynn’s line “We’ve given him the power, the gift of Thorn” and replaced it with “Evil, pure, uncorrupted, ancient” from the T-Cut. I like this line better because it suggests that Michael was always evil and Wynn discovered his evil at some point. In the P-Cut it’s explained that the cult is the reason Michael became a murderer, which I’m not a fan of.
- The whole hospital climax is taken from the theatrical cut. The only difference is that at the very end when it shows the Myers house and jack-o-lantern, I used the P-Cut because I like the slow version of the Halloween theme that was used.
- End credits start out with the P-Cut then switch to the T-Cut so that everyone who worked on the film gets credit, regardless of which version they worked on.
I primarily used the footage from the Producer’s Cut because it’s better quality and looks more natural than the theatrical cut. Also, since the two versions have different color grading, I didn’t want to switch back and forth because it might look strange, so a lot of the theatrical cut scenes are actually the Producer’s Cut mixed with the audio from the theatrical cut. Some of these scenes are a little bit longer in the Producer’s Cut so I had to edit them so that they’d match the theatrical cut. I only used the theatrical cut footage when I didn’t have a choice. I spent a lot of time making sure everything flowed smoothly, like blending the audio so that it’s not noticeable when it switches from one version to the other.
Recent thread on this exact topic.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Should-I-put-my-name-on-my-fan-edit/id/59033
Says it’s been locked by a moderator. Anyone remember what the consensus was?
Edit: Oops, nevermind. I didn’t realize all the replies were still there.
Do creators of fan edits normally put their name/username in the end credits? And is it risky to do that? I’d think if a fan edit was made anonymously then the creator would have less of a chance of getting in trouble.
Pablo Hidalgo said on Twitter that one man is responsible for the original versions not being released, so it’s possible Lucas had some clause in the contract with Disney that prevents them from releasing the originals.
What exactly is the significance of the GOUT audio? I’ve heard about people syncing the Silver Screen Edition to the GOUT audio and I was wondering what exactly the reason for that is. Is the GOUT soundtrack the original soundtrack of Star Wars?
Are there Star Wars Despecialized T-shirts? I’d love to have one. Imagine a bunch of people all over the world walking around wearing Despecialized T-shirts, helping to spread the word of the original versions!
There might be a 4K version of the unaltered original Star Wars next year:
hello good morning , my name is Jesus , it seems a spectacular job , mipregunta is where I download the ISO image Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6 , thank you and sorry for the inconvenience.
a greetingOn myspleen. But you’ll need an invite first, if you haven’t one already.
The ISO is only on usenet, not on myspleen. There is an MKV based on the ISO that is on myspleen, though.
I’m looking at a link for the ISO on myspleen at this very moment. It says it was added on June 18.
Yeah, I just found it there too. 😃
Can someone provide a link to the IB sample? I’m pretty new here and not sure what it is. Thanks.
Even if Disney does release the OOT on blu-ray with the Fox logo, they probably won’t include the original alien subtitles in the first and third movies in the original font and will instead have player-generated subs. In my opinion, these would be altered versions of the films.
moviefreakedmind said:
crissrudd4554 said:
Well I view it 3 ways. You have fans who prefer the OUT, fans who prefer the SE (any of them), and fans who aren't concerned otherwise and will watch the film's regardless of what versions they are. When you break it down the real battle is only between the first two groups of fans. The last will be happy with whatever. So I wouldn't say the OUT fans are a minority but they shouldn't be the target audience that Disney's aiming for should they reissue the OUT. As much as I prefer the OUT over the SE, I'm not gonna be part of the crowd that goes 'you're not a true SW fan if you like the SE's' or vice versa. If the originals are to be issued again, Disney should package it with the SE, whether it's a previously released version or a new edit, to please both camps. As I said the third group will probably be pleased with whatever.
I definitely agree that both should be packaged together. The SE, like it or not, is now an irreversible part of the OT's history, and should be preserved as such alongside the originals.
When you say the SE should be preserved, are you talking about the most recent SE or all of them? And if Lucas decided to re-release the SE on blu-ray again with a few more changes, would you want those preserved too?
Since the GOUT is just a DVD version of the '93 Laserdiscs, does anyone know where the coloring from the laserdiscs came from? A few pages earlier in this thread someone said the coloring of the DE is the same as the theatrical version, and I noticed the GOUT has different coloring. So was there a difference in the coloring between the theatrical, VHS, and laserdisc versions?
I downloaded v2.5 in 720p and I see it's the same coloring as the DVD5. Is this how it looked theatrically? Where did the coloring from v1.0 come from?
I'm not sure if anyone else brought this up, but the movie doesn't end on a black frame; it ends on the credits and they don't fade out completely. At least this is how it is on the DVD5 version, not sure about the 720p. So I just wanted to bring that up so that in the next release it doesn't just pause on the almost-faded out credits. Also I noticed that it's on a loop. So when it ends, it starts playing again. The DVD5 of Star Wars and Empire just stop after they're done.
I just looked at the end credits and there's no mention of a version 2.0 or 2.5 so I'm guessing it's 1.0? The descpecialized credits don't scroll, it's just a still shot.
Yeah I downloaded the one from the link you sent me. I compared the 720p to the DVD5 one and sometimes the actors' skin look a little more pinkish or yellowish than in the 720p one. For instance, the shot of Luke's face at the 34:15 mark looks a bit more purple in the DVD5.
Also, compare the clothes of the guy walking by at the 42:32 mark. Way more yellow in the DVD5 than the 720p. Actually almost everything in that shot has a yellowish tint that isn't present in the 720p.
Is the DVD5 really just a downscaled version of the 720p? I ask because I noticed the coloring is different. The coloring looks similar to the 2006 official DVD release.
It's pretty ridiculous that George Lucas stated that the special editions are the way he always wanted the films to be. That's total BS. If that were true, then there wouldn't be several versions of the special editions. If they are how he always wanted them, he would've included the infamous "Noooo!" that Darth Vader says in ROTJ in 2004, not several years later. If he really wanted a rock covering R2D2 in Star Wars, he would've done that when he filmed it. The fact that he constantly makes changes to his films proves he never intended anything really. He's never satisfied with what he has so nothing he ever does will ever be what he "always intended."
Good idea Harmy. I might get one just to watch your Despecialized Editions in the best quality possible!
In my earlier post when I said I wanted to burn a dual layered DVD with the .iso file and play it in my DVD player, I had no idea what I was talking about. Back then when I read Harmy's first post saying that the .iso could also be put on a dual layered DVD and would play in most Blu-ray players, I thought that meant that it would play in all DVD players and also most Blu-Ray players. I didn't really have any knowledge about this stuff. But recently I was talking with Erik Pancakes and he explained everything to me.
So thanks again to Erik Pancakes, and also to everyone who responded, and especially to Harmy for brilliantly re-creating these awesome movies, and to Chewtobacca who made the officially-sanctioned DVD5 versions. I ordered some Verbatim DVD-R discs and can't wait to burn them with the beautiful Despecialized Editions!!! :-D
I'm having a problem burning dvd+r dl discs with the despecialized editions. I imported .iso file into Imgburn (actually I think it made me import the mds file) and when I burned the disc it didn't play in my my dvd player. I noticed when I opened it on my computer it just had the .iso image on the disc. Isn't it supposed to convert it to some other format that can play on a dvd player? Since it just copied the .iso file I thought the program thought I was just burning a data disc. But I chose "write image file to disc" in Imgburn. Can anyone give me some help on how to make DVDs of the .iso files that will play in a DVD player? Thanks!