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J0E said:

The only reason 4k83 wasn’t GOUT synced is TN1 wanted to use the original audio track on the release print because of how well preserved it was. There was no need to sync to GOUT for audio tracks. I don’t know why that prompted a conversation of whether or not we should jump ship to a new standard. And if someone wanted the 4k83 track synced to GOUT, they could do it. Not only that, but it would also break timing of a lot of our subtitles. IMHO it isn’t worth it, literally no one is going to notice a handful of frames.

I don’t think that’s the main reason. From what I have read in the other forum, the underlying reason that 4K83 wasn’t GOUT-synced was that TN1 wanted to preserve the entire film: not just the audio, but the actual frames too - even though there were only a couple of extra ones. IMHO, they have made the right call in the long term, provided that the leaders of other major projects are in agreement going forwards. But I take your point that in the short/medium term, it may be a lot of work for those involved in subtitles/audio tracks to convert everything to a new standard.

It’s a tricky one, but I agree with Hal9000 that looking forwards is key. If there’s (say) a 99% chance that all the frames have now been found from the various 4K prints and UHD/Disney+ editions AND everyone is on board with switching to the new sync format, then I think it’s a really good idea. It would be a nuisance for a short time for the audio people to convert GOUT-synced tracks to the new standard, but afterwards there would be a new “gold” standard for all projects going forwards. (And in the future, the old GOUT-synced tracks would still be available for “legacy” projects such as Harmy’s current DE v2.x editions.)

However, if new frames are going to continue to be discovered every couple of years (*) OR different groups are going to adopt different sync standards, then things will get terribly messy and we probably would be better off just sticking with the GOUT standard.

(*) It is extremely unlikely that there are any more frames out there to be found, according to Team Negative 1.

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Indeed. The first one in particular is awful - the dude’s eyes and nose look clearly photoshopped in the Blu-ray image. There’s not as much of a difference in shots 2 and 3, although the torch has been altered detrimentally for the Blu-ray.

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CatBus said:

IIRC there are a few places where the heavy cropping has a significant impact on content. I think ESB is worst affected of the three films, and I think there’s one scene where Leia is cropped out of the image altogether. But as far as I know, nothing of that scale in Star Wars.

Do you know roughly which scene this is? Presumably she was already cropped out to some degree originally for her to disappear completely, unless the new cropping is considerable there.

Harmy - I don’t blame you for planning to keep the UHD cropping for the most part. It would be a near impossible job to reinstate a border seamlessly throughout each entire film. Thanks for the video update!

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I’m thinking of acquiring one of these laserdisc preservations. Having had a quick browse through the thread, the JSC (Japanese Special Collection) appears to highly regarded. Does this have the best picture quality of the laserdisc preservations to date?

Plldwn: this is a great thread - thanks for starting it.

Reading all the responses has reaffirmed my belief that the acting in the OT was very high overall for films of this genre. My gut reaction to the initial question was Mark Hamill for reasons already stated: mainly his wide range of emotions and progression in character maturity throughout the trilogy. But there are others I would place alongside to whom I had not given much thought until now. I agree that Anthony Daniels as C3PO was a real standout, and not only for his perfect delivery. Despite the limitations of being hidden away inside the robotic suit, he managed to convey great expression in the way he walked and moved. His body language during the various exchanges with R2D2 in ANH and Solo in TESB brings the character to life. The imperial officers were also all well cast. I thought Michael Sheard (Admiral Ozzel) and Jonathan Glover (General Veers) were especially memorable, although their roles were arguably too small to qualify them for “best overall actor”.

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