Baronlando

Actually E.T. was ALWAYS going to include the original version, but only in the more expensive 3 disc deluxe set. It was the loud reaction to the special edition that made them include it in the standard set. Notice the transfer was already done and ready to go anyway.

Dude, PLEASE stop with the lectures already. 

it's just weird for this forum to be singled out by any angry hardcore fans since it's all about getting STAR WARS preserved and given a presentation equal to Porky's III. What Star Wars fan could be against such a thing? And what other way is there to make it happen? We'd still be drinking New Coke if the consumer didn't complain.

The Star Wars story ended 3 years ago. It is kept alive by merchandising now. People here (and elsewhere) bitch and complain so LFL home video is aware there's still some level of demand out there for the originals. When they are deciding what trinkets get sold every year, they use things like consumer demand to decide. Nobody gives a fuck about lectures on "bashing Lucas". 

Well, for what it's worth, the dvd documentary extras have several shots of the duel before the 2004 changes were made. They're anamorphic at least, (from the 1997 version I guess) so maybe they'd be better to work with than the GOUT? 

Ken is it at least possible some people understand cinematography more than you?

American Cinematographer: DVD Playback

Ok, Ken you're a saint dude, understood. But some of us would like to complain to get something better since that's the only way it gets done. Negativity is allowed because this isn't Scientology and I am not Ned Flanders.

Lucas is currently worth (literally) 4 Billion dollars. It's more classless to sell a dvd with FAR less effort put into it than a season of Love Boat.

I burned it on a mac using Toast, no problemo.

I love it. You gave Lucasfilm a kick in the ass, can't wait for Empire. (is the laserdisc audio the one with Luke screaming on the way down? I get the versions mixed up)

there's no such thing as Imgburn for mac is there?

Mann Chinese, 70mm, late 1977. I peaked too soon.

Ho-ly shit, this looks like an amazing project. Greatly appreciated, Adywan. 

Definitive evidence? It's the "demand" part of supply and demand. If you really need a specific, American laserdiscs and tapes were pan and scan for years until enough people complained, particularly enthusiasts (writing to things like the laserdisc newsletter and bellyaching at consumer electronics shows) and if you're old enough you should remember the endless pro-letterboxing push to counteract all the old ladies and soccer moms who hated seeing black bars on their tv).  And Warner Home video had no concept of a "Donner Cut" before the superman-fans were beating that drum from the early days of the internet. It was only Donner's participation that came late in the game. (By then they would have just done it without him and called it something else, like the extended Alien 3. Another dvd that exists because of fan noise.) Or maybe the home video industry just does things based on their own whims and artistic merit, maybe I'm nuts.

This writeup is fairly detailed. Sounds pretty good.

T-bone's Star Wars Universe - Attack of the Clones - IMAX Cuts

Again, the complaining and the preservation/restoration of the originals are deeply connected. It's a sad fact, but it's true. Without complaining we wouldn't have the GOUT, we wouldn't have had letterboxed laserdiscs and we wouldn't have the vast majority of lesser known movies on dvd at all. It would basically be nothing but American Pie and Scary Movie 4 out there. Seriously. 

I've worked in home video and I'm afraid nothing gets done without people complaining. The idea that Lucasfilm doesn't have the "resources" to do this right is beyond feeble. The dvd efforts done for more obscure, older films in worse shape by smaller outfits is going on ALL the time. If anything Lucasfilm has it much, much easier because they own the rights to everything and all the elements are well-cared for and at their disposal any old time they want. When it comes to home video product, they are cheap, lazy, incompetent, and dishonest.

The plan is to get everybody on the inside and then play it as it lays. It's the last remnant of Star Wars-as-action adventure before it disappeared up its own ass.

Oh, it does. There was plenty of bad 90s aromatherapy spa music to go around!

Blech. Was there some law against ending Return of the Jedi with STAR WARS music?

You're right about Luke's reaction, but if you watch the scene closely, you'll see that Mark Hamill IS really angry when he says "why didn't you tell me?", but when they looped the scene, it was totally deflated. Also John Williams even did some "angry" music for that scene, but for some reason they didn't use it. Jedi is FULL of bad looping that hurt the performances and made them seem worse than they are. It would be great if the production audio could be cleaned up and used for some of those clunky bits, I'll take performance over perfect sound quality any day. (never happen)

it's a "bargain" in LFL's obnoxious marketing-land. ("These sets make it easy and affordable to complete the saga!") That world has its own laws, it's too special for normal movies, with their silly post-1993 transfers. Generally, you can get 3 rehashed movies for 10 bucks now, but Star Wars is far too important for that.

Yeah this is good news for the originals. How are they going to push some high-priced blu-ray set that has LESS stuff than this bargain repack?

Wouldn't it have been enough for Qui-Gon (and later Yoda) to just say "man, the force is stronger in this little kid than any Jedi I know." 

Uh, Lucas wrote the movie. Then, Kasdan did polishes/rewrites later. Lucas is just uncredited. Brackett's draft wasn't used. 

I don't know about TFN these days, but it felt like there were a lot of jagoffs there in 2006 during the dvd mess. "You'll never be satisfied, how dare you criticize this generous gift, you get what you deserve" blah blah.  As the biggest Star Wars site in the world, it really is a shame they took that attitude, it has probably helped make the (apparently smaller) group that cares about the treating the original versions properly very easy to dismiss.