Baronlando

Dear Lucasfilm:

Eat all the dicks.

http://www.manosinhd.com/?page_id=2

Hmm, so Spectre/Vision are good? Like, on par with the HEIR trilogy? Interesting, may have to pick 'em up. I had bailed on the books by the time they came out. (I can't be the only person who bought more SW books that didn't get read than did)

That was this: (it's pretty awesome)

http://vimeo.com/5494280

I really don't think the shift has been that vast. You get a slanted view of things in dorkworld. (Even in 97 the original sold significantly more tickets than Empire)

Probably in the 90s for me. Or whenever fans started getting older and feeling weird about still caring about this fantasy. EMPIRE made it more okay because it's OH SO DARK and we were douchey 90s posers.

Maybe it doesn't play that way anymore, but at the time, Han's reaction was just a crowd-pleasing moment that got laughs. It feels like Lawrence Kasdan trying to deflate the lameness of the reveal with a joke. And it sort of actually worked because crowds loved Ford/Han so much.

Ah, SCTV. The altered music is less annoying than the way they just stopped releasing it while reasonably close to finishing it. Shout factory still might get around to releasing more but if they ever make it official that they are done, I was thinking I'd make a disc of "musically-restored" skits using the audio (and video where necessary) of what I have and whatever I can get from various sources out there. Luckily the show was cheap and doesn't sound too far removed from VHS tape anyway).

(Off the top of my head the worst offenders were The Bill Murray/Graduate bit without Mrs. Robinson, the John Williams polka, and the Benny Hill horns during the replace Tex contest.)

Yeah these big market drive-ins on opening day would definitely be 35mm http://faqs.starwarsmovieposter.com/images/usesbad.jpg

I would think for the kind of wide, national re-release Empire had in 81/82 they would have had to make some new prints, the ones from May of '80 would be pretty beat up by then, (playing around the clock in some venues that first week or more). And they would have made new 70blowups from the same source as the 35s, an internegative I guess? Which would have been the more standard EMPIRE by then.

Of course.  The presence of a digital ship in a movie, or the lack thereof, is not going to sell a kid one way or another on any movie, give them a little credit. That whole thing about doing this "for the new generation of children" is P.R. horseshit anyway. They only say that because it sounds better than "we're doing it for guys with OCD and to jack off with software."

 I think you're just talking about your own computery fetish and blaming it on "today's kids". It can't be done anyway, modern movies like Trek '09 are scored, photographed, edited in a totally different way, no amount of cartoon dinosaurs, floating shit and fake sunsets can change that.

nightstalkerpoet said:

- Star Wars does need to be updated to maintain its impact on new generations.

Nah, that's bullshit.

danny_boy said:

When people went to watch SW in 70mm back in 77'----all they had in their homes were crude mono sounding TV's(and stereo gramaphones for their vinyl's)

That doesn't account for Hoffman making that observation in 2008. An observation from a knowledgeable, qualified person with no stake in any side, I can't ask for more really.

darth_ender said:

  And I understand that it's originaltrilogy.com, but it just amazes me that there is no end to it all.

There's like, 3 guys who actually do what you're talking about. (And sure there's an end to it. Over in the alternate universe it already happened and it looks like this: 

EyeShotFirst said:

Wasn't it publicly called REVENGE for like, almost 3 years? That's a pretty long time to be the not-title.

. Fuck your disappointment. Fuck your damning with faint praise. Fuck your fake apathy. Fuck your conde

How very punk rock. (wanking motion)

Did they just rejigger the old trailer that was lying around? Obi-wan screaming "No" is missing the red shield over his face, just like the '99 trailer.

WhatsMyName said:Man, people complain that they don't have enough Fett so GL makes a bunch of clones and you're still not happy.

Where are these people? And how have they traveled here all the way from 1995?

Actually I think the 77 doc is intact. The "spfx: EMPIRE" special is the one that had a couple clips from other movies pulled many years ago. I've never seen it as broadcast but I believe it's a very minor thing. (Look for the part where Mark Hamill is talking about other movies and they show a shot from Close Encounters, I think the change was made in there somewhere)

I get weirdly defensive about Marquand because GL expecting him to make that movie for less time and money than EMPIRE (which is about a million times more intimate) and yet maintain the quality seems really unreasonable and pretty much humanly impossible. (I also love that GL's idea of the second unit helping out was to shoot an utterly useless musical number that wasn't in the script)

The cyan strip being out of synch came up just recently at that DGA thing and GL, in his way, made it sound like that problem from 1995 means the originals are gone forever/impossible, etc. He often reminds me of that line in Mean Streets-"You got a way of talking about one thing and sliding into something else like no one's supposed to notice."

TServo2049 said:

Close Encounters

This is the one that really makes me nuts. Same age, basically all the same problems (and not a snowball's chance of selling as many copies as Star Wars '77). And yet they just frickin' handle it. No fanfare, no sob stories. 

Thanks for the lecture, Maury.

It might flop or it might do fine. And once again I feel like I have to be a fricking MANHUNTER expert profiler of GL, to try and figure which scenario is better for the OT. I will now ponder this in montage.

SilverWook said:

With all the crap that swirls around a position literally no other filmmaker has ever taken, it's easy to get worn out and feel down. Was that one big happy fandom I glimpsed back in 1987 at the 10th anniversary con ever real at all?

I was there, it totally was!

But if you think of the original version stupidness as a separate company policy thing, there's nothing to be down about to me. Star Wars came to a natural end in '83, so anything I've enjoyed since then is just gravy.

hairy_hen said:

Am I the only one who thinks the 70mm version of the end scene actually plays better, in a way?  It sounds odd to me on one level because I'm so used to how they changed it, but at the same time the line about finding Jabba the Hutt is unnecessary.  Hmm . . .

I definitely like it better. Anything with less music editing and over-explaining is okay by me.