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#1376904
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The Music Discussion Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

The score for Empire is probably my favorite now. I love Yoda’s theme and the magic tree.
I could just listen to the score and imagine the movie.

Excellent choice. I’d lean The Phantom Menace as my favourite of the soundtracks but I do think The Empire Strikes Back is second in my rankings. Anakin is Free, Swim to Otah Gunga, Anakin and Group to Courscant, and Watto’s Deal/Shimi and Qui-Gon’s Talk are all amazing to me. There’s something very medieval and innocent about the soundtrack.

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#1376901
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Football / Soccer thread - general footy, futebol, futbol, fotbal, Fußball, voetbal or calcio
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oojason said:

I haven’t seen the doc on Leeds yet - though the one on Spurs was quite entertaining. The doc on Sunderland was quite an illuminating watch too.

Chelsea, eh? The Dark Side… j/k 😃

Should be a good season for you guys if it all clicks together - that gk situation could be problematic unless you can get someone in. Do you guys have to sell (Kepa?) before buying - or is there a little still left in the bank?

Should be a good game on the 20th 😃
 

I never saw you replied! My apologies for not getting back to you.

I’ve not seen the Spurs or Sunderland ones. I’ll have to check them out for sure. There’s some great classic football documentaries on YouTube too. I particularly love this one. There’s a tad bit of bias I’m sure.

https://youtu.be/R8YdrUpINr8

Haha, yes the Dark Side! We have cookies. 😁

There’s still a little in the bank as the signing of Edouard Mendy from France is said to be happening today as he passed his physical yesterday. Petr Cech rates him highly. So hopefully he can bring prose back to our goalkeepering. We desperately needed it. I do feel for Kepa but we should never have played low ball with Alisson.

Yes, yes. Congrats on the win! We’ll just win at Ainfield. 😁

Happy with our win versus Barnsley!

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#1374536
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

DS II does make sense from an in-universe standpoint, it’s just incredibly lazy out-of-universe.

Absolutely. At least it makes sense within universe unlike Starkiller Base.

Here’s a rundown on the similarities between Duel of the Fates and The Rise of Skywalker.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-rise-skywalker-duel-fates-script-story-similarities/

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#1374532
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Chewie receiving the medal and superweapon Star Destroyers were all present.

I legit don’t remember those being in DotF, but I’ll take your word for it.

As a sidenote, one thing that’s starting to bother me more and more is how Return of the Jedi has the Death Star II and in the very next film we see yet another Death Star in Starkiller Base. This is so jarring especially if you’re watching the films in sequence order. Do we really need back to back films with a Death Star?

People bitched about Starkiller Base, but DSII is no better. ANH should’ve been the end of it.

And I’ll have to take the word for it of a reviewer I trust on YouTube. Haha.

I really have no problem with Death Star II as it plays into the story in luring the Rebels out of hiding once and for all. Palpatine’s overconfidence was his weakness. Although I can understand why some don’t like it.

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#1374434
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Any favorite Star Wars scenes?
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My (Current) Top 15 of the PT and OT:

  1. Binary Sunset.

  2. “I am a Jedi like my father before me.” Really all of the scenes with Luke and Anakin/Vader in Return of the Jedi.

  3. Anakin leaving home.

  4. Qui-Gon and Anakin discussing Anakin’s dreams.

  5. Yoda’s teachings in both Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back.

  6. The Immolation Scene.

  7. The lead up to and the Podrace itself.

  8. The Trench Run.

  9. The Sail Barge.

  10. “Anakin. Don’t try to grow up too fast.”

  11. Duel of the Fates.

  12. Rogue Two rescuing Luke and Han.

  13. “Obi-Wan, promise me you will train the boy.”

  14. Luke and Leia’s swing across on the Death Star.

  15. Order 66.

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#1374430
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

but 3 different writers without a plan?

Five, actually. TFA has three credited writers and RoS has two, although Abrams is one of each. For comparison the OT had three and the PT had two, and all the of the first six films at least gave Lucas a story by credit, so there was guiding vision. RoS gives that credit to DotF’s writers (for some reason), so if you count those the ST has a whopping seven different writers, only one of which appeared for more than one entry (Abrams). Compare that to the PT being almost singlehandedly written by Lucas (with help on AotC) and the difference is night and day. The PT knew what story it wanted to tell and the ST didn’t. Hell, the ST even had a different producer each on top of Kennedy and Abrams (the latter only for the ones he directed).

The reason the writers of Duel of the Fates received a writer’s credit is because a fair few ideas like Chewie receiving the medal and superweapon Star Destroyers were all present. It’s part of WGA rules.

It speaks to a problem with J.J.'s films, he incorporates ideas without thinking of the context of said ideas and the ramifications they’ll have on the story he’s telling. It’s why in retrospect I find the starting points of the Original Trilogy trio so jarring as they’re in pretty much the same starting points in A New Hope. It’s just there to evoke feelings and nostalgia. Nothing more.

As a sidenote, one thing that’s starting to bother me more and more is how Return of the Jedi has the Death Star II and in the very next film we see yet another Death Star in Starkiller Base. This is so jarring especially if you’re watching the films in sequence order. Do we really need back to back films with a Death Star?

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#1374315
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<em>Solo: A Star Wars Story</em> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — <strong>SPOILERS</strong>
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I have very mixed feelings about Solo. Some of the ideas are really good and enjoyable like the dynamic between Han and Qi’ra and the reveal of who Enfys Nest really is but the execution of other ideas is its downfall like it feeling like a checklist on Han’s backstory in the Original Trilogy.

The main problem for me however is I don’t like how it feels very modern and topical. Star Wars has always been timeless in its approach to the stories themselves.

All and all it’s okay I guess.

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#1374208
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The Rise Of Skywalker - Abrams' Vision or Executive Meddling?
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It begins with Disney as it’s very clear in retrospect there was no plan for the trilogy apart from playing to our nostalgia while regressing the accomplishments of the older characters. Even George said as much in the now infamous Charlie Rose interview. I also remember a post on Reddit about the whole situation post release and how one main point was the individual mentioning J.J. and Rian not liking each other. This had been said before by individuals with Collider but it’s becoming more and more true. Like the information about how John and other members of the cast preferred working with J.J. to Rian. The more information that comes to light, the more I see credence to all of this coming from the top at Disney. It was there decision afterall to throw out George’s story treatments and J.J. and company were part of this decision by the way Bob Iger disclosed things in his book.

I think The Rise of Skywalker is a result of both J.J. and corporate meddling.

Look at how much the film actively tries to retcon The Last Jedi.

Look at how Daisy confessed they weren’t sure what they were going to do about Rey’s lineage even during filming.

Look at Kathleen Kennedy’s comments to Rolling Stone before release.

“Well, I wouldn’t say you ever get to a point where you just go, “That’s it.” It’s a constantly evolving process. I mean, there’s still little things that we’re trying to get exactly right, right now. You never stop the storytelling iterations that go on in making these movies. But we know what these previous eight movies are. We know what that story is. So in this movie, we’re taking all of what’s come before, and we’re trying to find a satisfying conclusion. And I think we have, and that’s something that we can only depend on our instincts to arrive at, whether or not we have. And then we have what I would call the family and friends that you pull in and you show things to when you try to get some kind of feedback, and make sure that you’re making sense and that you’re delivering on the things that you intend. That’s something that we’re still talking about right now.”

And finally look at Ben Burtt’s comments about being kept out of The Last Jedi.

"I don’t know if there’s bad blood. I was just never consulted or hired to do any of them. No one’s ever told me why. No, I was told–on the new regime, I was just told, ‘Just stay in your room and make sounds and just send stuff to us. We’ll decide what to do.’ "

“It wasn’t always easy working with George, but at least it was one voice. And you could get his attention and have your say and present something and get a yes or a no. But it was just one person you had to get past. Not banks of different people who want to have a say.”

It’s all a result of too many people trying to have a say and no longer there being a singular vision but a committee trying to please everyone without understanding context of themes and ideas they’re trying to incorporate into their stories.

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#1373973
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The Phantom Menace - anyone want to chat about TPM?
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Rodney-2187 said:

I hate that I never saw TPM in 3D when it was in theaters. I wish they went ahead and released them all in 3D. I wonder how much of the work they completed? Just imagine the trench run in 3D!

I believe Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were finished as I remember hearing about them being shown at Celebration in 2015. I can’t say for the Original Trilogy though.

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#1373105
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Football / Soccer thread - general footy, futebol, futbol, fotbal, Fußball, voetbal or calcio
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Super hyped and ready for football! Really excited for this season as we (Chelsea) signed some great players in Ben Chilwell, Timo Werner, Kai Havertz, Hakim Ziyech, and Thiago Silva. I think we’re all around looking very promising and upwards with current youngsters like Mason Mount rounding out the lineup. We just need to find a long term solution at Goalkeeper and Centre Back. I’m thinking though Silva will be a stop gap until we go after bringing Declan Rice back to the Bridge next year. Not sure what we’ll do at Goalkeeper long term but hopefully we find something!

Our women’s side also looks even more ready to push for Champion’s League!

As a sidenote I was watching the Amazon football documentary about Leeds called Take Us Home and even as a Chelsea fan who is supposed to hate them can’t help but have some respect and be interested to see how they do in their return to the top flight.

Has anyone else seen any of the documentary?

Come on you Blues!

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#1372699
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Star Wars Video Games - a general discussion thread
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My first Star Wars video game was The Phantom Menace for PS1. Lots of great memories playing it and watching the Duel of the Fates music video over and over … and over.

I equally remember playing the arcade version of Podracer at Chuck E. Cheese. So much fun! Haha

I remember playing Battlefront, Battlefront 2, The Force Unleashed, Revenge of the Sith (GPA and PS2) and the Lego games too.

Earlier this year I bought The Complete Saga for 360 to mainly help me reconcile and seperate The Rise of Skywalker and Sequel Trilogy from George’s six films. Not only did that happen (well getting there) but I’ve found myself having a lot of fun playing it. It has child like innocence to it and I enjoy that comfort it brings me.

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#1372694
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The Music Discussion Thread
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jedi_bendu, my apologies for the delay in answering you. It’s my pleasure. I agree. I’d really love to see the full saga with just his music and the visual imagination. It would be such a fun and emotional experience I think.

It’s so weird seeing Star Wars without music and Ben Burtt’s sound design. They really are just as instrumental to the films as George’s visual storytelling.

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#1372693
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Dune - Denis Villeneuve
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I was actually going to make a thread for it once I came back from my break. I’m really intrigued and excited about Dune. I’ve not read the book or seen any of the adaptations so it should be interesting to dive in with this as my entry point. I’m intrigued by Denis Villeneuve calling it “Star Wars for adults”, which makes sense as I know George was influenced by the novel. Denis is one of the best directors working today and I really admire how he has an admiration for Andrei Tarkovsky. I consider him to be my favourite filmmaker not named George Lucas. So I’m cautiously optimistic this could end up being a really fun experience!

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#1370018
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Name Something You Unreservedly Love About The Rise Of Skywalker
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act on instinct said:

BB-Rey said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Did they force heal Luke’s X-wing?
I just had to suspend disbelief and not think about stuff like the ship being under water for 30 years. Or his door being made out of parts of the X-wing. The door Chewie tears off its hinges.
Or Anakin’s Saber magically being made whole again.

I still really enjoyed the movie.

Apparently according to the novelization Rey repaired the ship from parts of the TIE Fighter.

What lovely symbolism, too bad it’s not in the movie…

Unfortunately. The movie could use some quieter moments.

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#1368775
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Name Something You Unreservedly Love About The Rise Of Skywalker
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JadedSkywalker said:

Did they force heal Luke’s X-wing?
I just had to suspend disbelief and not think about stuff like the ship being under water for 30 years. Or his door being made out of parts of the X-wing. The door Chewie tears off its hinges.
Or Anakin’s Saber magically being made whole again.

I still really enjoyed the movie.

Apparently according to the novelization Rey repaired the ship from parts of the TIE Fighter.

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#1368764
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The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy
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I’m really sad we’ll more than likely never see George’s full concepts and vision for the Sequel Trilogy.

Like many before me though I’m very intrigued by the Whills and their relationship with the Force. The glimpses it seems we got with the Yoda arc in The Clone Wars with the Force Priestesses wasn’t nearly enough.

George told StarWars.com during a retrospect for The Phantom Menace last year, “Early on, it was that Anakin had been more or less created by the midi-chlorians, and that the midi-chlorians had a very powerful relationship to the Whills [from the first draft of Star Wars], and the power of the Whills, and all that. I never really got a chance to explain the Whills part.”

I really get the impression from taking into account this, George’s conversation with James Cameron, and the Yoda arc that they’re Immortal beings who study and watch the events of the mortal beings and they are the Force. They created Anakin to combat the growing threat of the Dark Side which took the Force out of Balance as it may have always been told by a central Whill. It makes me wonder if part of the journey of the Sequel Trilogy would’ve been about the grandchildren of Anakin discovering their deeper connection to the Force. Similar in a way to the Ones on Mortis. They’d become the embodiments of Light and Dark to maintain long term balance with Anakin serving as Father.

I imagined the Sequel Trilogy we got ending like that in a way. I saw Rey whose a Skywalker (as George wanted) in some way and Ben coming together as the Daughter and Son to embody the Light and Dark as Anakin tries to contain them. Ensuring a long term Balance.

I’m not sure about this now but it really makes me wonder how George would’ve gone about tackling this considering he saw Anakin as the Chosen One.

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#1368294
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Prayer requests, Anyone?
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I’d really appreciate prayers with my studies. I’m currently studying for my GED as I never finished high school. (Quite a few moons ago now) The biggest reason is if I earn a 2.75 or higher GPA I’ll be able to apply to my dream university in England’s Foundation Year. It’s honestly very intimidating and scary for me as this is truly an opportunity out of a storybook. I’ll get to study Anthropology, Ancient History, Modern History, Sociology, Liberal Arts, English Literature, and Politics to progress to their BA in Visual Arts and Film with Russian. I’ll study the arts, films, and cultures of Russophone Eurasia, Middle East, West, and East Asia. They equally offer a year aboard in Moscow studying at the VGIK, the oldest film school in the world and where my hero Andrei Tarkovsky went. I really need the prayers and strength that I can accomplish this. It’s truly everything I’ve ever wanted and more.

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#1368269
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The Phantom Menace - anyone want to chat about TPM?
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act on instinct said:

Recently watched TPM on mute, I appreciated it a lot more just by taking it all in visually, so much great design and I could follow the story pretty well despite having not seen it in a long time. I’ve heard another good thing to try if you hate the line delivery is to watch the prequels dubbed in a foreign language with subtitles. Moments still took me out of the movie but they were fewer and farther between, the acting is the biggest fish of the problem, that improves with each prequel.

TPM also I can understand feeling underwhelming to those who really would have preferred to see the characters they already loved in an episode 7, instead it feels like the pilot of a tv series or like the first or second Harry Potter. So it feels like a rejection of the new characters made worse by wooden performances and an overall resistance to change leaving a bad impression. I can admit I just didn’t grow up with these movies first and it does influence my bias, but I’ve come to welcome the prequels to the table when I consider the generation that would actually grow up watching 1-6 in order and don’t have an implicit bias. Anyone is allowed to ignore them but I don’t really think a Gungan is dumber than an Ewok. The way I remember the theatrical releases most people at the time were confused by the sleeker ships and droid technology, and that they wanted to cut to the chase and see Anakin become Darth Vader. But it starts lighthearted and slow and people got impatient. The OT is a classic many fans don’t want tampered with, for some that includes backstory.

George mentioned the last bits in interviews in the 80’s and 90’s.

“If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves, Star Wars is more about personal growth and self realization, and the third deals with moral and philosophical problems. The sequel is about Jedi Knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned.”

I will attach the 90’s quote when I find it.

It really makes me sad to consider what may have been if he made his Sequels. It feels like a natural progression.

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#1368085
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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The more I watch Rogue One the more I highly regard it. It definitely captures the spirituality and feel of the first six Star Wars films the best. I love Chirrut and the scenes on Jedha especially. I appreciate how it expands the lore and canon but doesn’t step on the toes of anything that came before or after it. It feels like a love letter to both the Prequels and Originals. I’m always really glad when there’s geninue parallels to the Prequels through ring composition and this film has loads of them. it certainly could use a bit more character development but Sam Witwer made the good point of how in A New Hope we know just about the same amount of information as we do with the characters in Rogue One. It’s really a good point. All and all it’s a beautiful looking film with lots of fun and interesting themes.

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#1367875
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The Phantom Menace - anyone want to chat about TPM?
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Vladimon said:

I like the prequels a lot. In fact, the more I watch them, the more I like them. Especially after the Disney trilogy (which I do NOT hate btw. Imagine someone actually hating a movie, … A MOVIE 😄 What a pathetic individual that must be. Save such deeply negative feelings for the people and situations that truly deserve them, not a piece of entertainment you don’t like because it’s not what you wanted it to be).

TPM is my favorite of the prequels. Yes, it has its problems and most of the film’s fans are quite aware of them, to a lesser or greater degree.
GL isn’t exactly the greatest director of human actors (he’s better with purely CGI ones - YES, Jar Jar actually has more personality than almost any other character in the film), the dialogue he writes is sometimes weak even for the purpose of his idea of a story that is told mainly through its visuals. And some of those visual ideas can at times come off as a bit too wacky, over the top or even cringeworthy (before you get used to them and eventually get to like them).

And yet, he was able to create the most fascinating, rich and immersive universe by combining known mythological, sci-fi and fantasy themes and ideas with his own vision into this unique world of Star Wars. The world/universe full of the weirdest creatures you’ve ever seen, where the old fairytale-like struggle between good and evil takes place (in a story that actually has a lot more to say than the seemingly simple message on its surface).

I must give GL credit for creating something so imaginative, cool and deep that it has been able to fascinate and grab the interest of so many people of all ages, of many different intellects, professions, religions, etc. and maintain that interest for such a long time.

Even now, with its dated CGI, TPM immediately takes me back to the galaxy far far away anytime I watch it and leaves me with more impression than almost any other modern blockbuster.
For sure, the prequels have their own vibe and atmosphere, very different from the OT and yet so good in their own right. GL introduced us to this new and at the time not-so-perfect CGI technology (which he used in fascinating new ways and also overused, but still - it’s a rather uniform visual style and much of the the uniqueness of the prequels comes from how all those digital backgrounds, CGI creatures, vehicles and sets create this colorful, other-worldly atmosphere of the prequels’ galaxy. Just think about it - with the prequels we were introduced to so many fascinating new worlds, locations, spacecraft and aliens, all of them expanding upon everything that had been established in the OT. Greatly expanding the universe and its mythology.

If the Disney trilogy failed to do one thing it was to let us discover new interesting worlds and capture our imagination the way GL did with his six movies. Always expanding his already rich galaxy in truly imaginative ways, bringing in more interesting and fascinating worlds, aliens and beautiful images overall. His CGI may not hold up to today’s standards but the visual ideas he provided us with are so much more interesting and vivid than the boring environments, aliens, costumes, etc. brought on by the sequels. Maybe it’s because those films were trying so desperately to mimic the OT’s atmosphere that they eventually became almost parodies if it. Plus they had no well thought out story arc and were throwing in ideas on the go
instead of having a good idea about where the story and the characters would go. TPM on the other hand is part of a coherent trilogy of films with a story that felt complete. Not all of it was super interesting (hi, how about an official release of the IMAX cut of AOTC?, gimme please), but at least I knew what and why was going on and felt it was ok if not always perfect.

And no, by introducing new imaginative ideas and images I do not mean images of Lea flying around in open space. We’re not making a parody, we’re expanding upon a well established universe. (coming from a person who actually likes TLJ best out of the sequels).

Mostly agree with everything you’ve said.

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