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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread

screams in the void said:

^ This current discussion reminds me of the whole " Ring Theory " that was going on a few years back , I gotta go with HelloGreedo on his take on it here…

To which I rebuke with this video essay by Rick Worley. He shares quotes from George that back things up that show the Ring Theory is true. It’s definitely intentional as you can even see it in The Clone Wars.

Here’s also a shorter video that addresses the idea.

Even Disney Star Wars does it. Albeit without understanding context a lot of the time and deliberate copy and paste.

General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread

NeverarGreat said:

I mean, their bodies are in completely different positions…

Here’s an example with Luke and Padme.

Anakin above is part of the reversal.

Images mirror and intersect with one another within the structure to reverse and intertwine. There’s a difference between copying, and visual and narrative poetry. They’re not necessarily mutually exclusive as they must differ in some way for the cycle to work.

This video is a good reference too:

General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread

Found this on Reddit:

“I noticed that the first face shot we get of both young & old Anakin before each version “dies”, mirrors one another down to the position of the eyes. Both stare up at their vanquisher.”

The sheer amount of attention to detail George went to within his six films is unparalleled.

Last movie seen

The Clone Wars - Movie

I hadn’t seen it in years but I decided to buy it as I found a real good deal on it. It’s not nearly as bad as its reputation leads one to believe. I really enjoyed it and if I’m honest it’s the most fun I’ve had watching Star Wars in a long time. It’s not perfect as it’s a bit weirdly paced in the beginning and has a couple of weird aspects but once it gets going it’s a real treat and fun with some good wisdom sprinkled in. At the end of the day that’s all I could’ve asked for and it delivered.

I definitely want to watch the parts of the series I’ve not seen yet by continuing my quest in watching what is the last remaining stories George told in a galaxy far, far, away and beyond for that matter…

YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.

Robert Watts - A Life in Film

from the Filmumentaries com YouTube channel (27 minutes long)

The Blurb: Back in July 2018 I got to spend an hour with legendary location manager and producer, Robert Watts. In this interview we talk about the origins of his film career and some of the highlights along the way.

This conversation goes beyond just his time working on the Original Trilogy but it felt relevant here comparably speaking to similar threads. Star Wars talk begins at the 4:24 mark.

Football / Soccer thread - general footy, futebol, futbol, fotbal, Fußball, voetbal or calcio

fmalover said:

As a German football fan I was rooting for Chelsea (Rüdiger, Havertz and Werner + head coach Thomas Tuchel), and I also didn’t want to put up with pundits all around the world having a collective orgasm over that smug Catalan winning his third CL, so I’m very happy with the result.

I must say that Thomas Tuchel has really grown on me considerably. I felt very bittersweet when he was hired as Frank Lampard is my footballing hero and how likeable he is but now I love him wholeheartedly. I’m glad he’s our manager and hope he’s with us for the long term. We’ll have to see though given our track record.

Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films

I never realised how quite a few of Obi-Wan’s teachings to Luke play a part in the latter and Kylo’s fight on Crait.

The biggest being when Obi-Wan states -

“Your eyes can deceive you, don’t trust them.”

During the same teachings Obi-Wan the following occurs -

Obi-Wan - “Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him.”

Luke Skywalker - “You mean it controls your actions?”

Obi-Wan - “Partially, but it also obeys your commands.”

In light of George’s comments about the Whills and Midi-Chlorians I feel it connects another layer to the lesson and what is and isn’t destiny and free will.

Star Wars Headcanons

Anakin Starkiller said:

Wasn’t that R2-D2’s job?

George said the following to Rob Coleman during the making of Revenge of the Sith:

"The entire story of Star Wars is actually being recounted to the keeper of the Journal of the Whills – remember that? – a hundred years after the events of Return of the Jedi by none other than R2-D2.”

Midichlorians Are Not The Force

Here’s some quotes from George in Paul Duncan’s book that give important context:

“This is the cosmology. The Force is the energy, the fuel, and without it everything would fall apart. The Force is a metaphor for God, and God is essentially unknowable. But behind it is another metaphor, which fits so well into the movie that I couldn’t resist it. Midi-Chlorians are the equivalent of Mitochondria in living organisms and photosynthesis in plants - I simply combined them for easier consumption by the viewer. Mitochondria create the chemical energy that turns one cell into two cells.”

“I like to think that there is a unified reality to life and that it exists everywhere in the universe and that it controls things, but you can also control it. That’s why I split it into the Personal Force and the Cosmic Force. The Personal Force is the energy field created by our cells interacting and doing things while we are alive. When we die, we lose our persona and our energy is assimilated into the Cosmic Force. If we have enough Midi-Chlorians in our body, we can have a certain amount of control over our Personal Force and learn how to use it, like the Buddhist practice of being able to walk on hot coals.”

“The Jedi will train you to connect to your Personal Force, and then to connect to the Cosmic Force. You don’t have much power to control the Cosmic Force, but you can make use of it.”

And about the Whills and Anakin’s origins:

“The Whills are a microscopic, single-celled lifeform like amoeba, fungi, and bacteria. There’s something like 100.000 times more Whills than there are Midi-Chlorians, and there’s about 10.000 times more Midi-Chlorians than there are human cells. The only microscopic entities that can go into the human cells are the Midi-Chlorians. They are born in the cells. The Midi-Chlorians provide the energy for human cells to split and create life. The Whills are single-celled animals that feed on the Force. The more of the Force there is, the better off they are. So they have a very intense symbiotic relationship with the Midi-Chlorians and the Midi-Chlorians effectively work for the Whills. It is estimated that we have 100 trillion microbes in our body and we are made up of about 90% bacteria and 10% human cells. So who is in service to whom? I know this is the kind of thing that fans just go berserk over because they say, “We want it to be mysterious and magical”, and “You’re just doing science.” Well, this isn’t science. This is just as mythological as anything else in Star Wars. It sounds more scientific, but it’s a fiction. It’s saying there is a big symbiotic relationship to create life, and to create the Force, but if you look at all the life-forms in the universe, most of them are one-celled organisms. I think of one-celled organisms as an advanced form of life because they’ve been able to travel through the universe. They have their own spaceships - those meteorites that we get every once in a while. They’ve been living on those things for thousands of years, they’ve been frozen, unfrozen, and can survive almost anything. The one-celled organisms have to have a balance. You have to have good ones and bad ones otherwise it would extinguish life. And if they go out of balance, the dark side takes over.”

“The Midi-Chlorians started the birth process in Anakin’s mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That’s why Anakin doesn’t have a father. He was in a bizarre and metaphorical way touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animals.”

As well as an older article from Jonathan Rinzler clarifying that it’s not at all about blood:

I honestly think one of the most unfortunate things to happen with Star Wars is that we’ll probably never know the full story of these story points George planted to explore further in his Sequels. I honestly would like to hope having the full story laid out between this and the mystery of Sifo-Dyas being resolved that the Prequels would be understood more so at the very least as I think having certain story points and the apparent “plot holes” resolved would truly show the scope of the consequences of our actions and dilemmas faced by a family across generations.

George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy

I shared it on another thread but I’ll share it here too as it feels a bit more relevant.

George had more to say in Paul Duncan’s Prequels book about his planned Sequels.

For Anakin’s origins:

“The midi-chlorians started the birth process in Anakin’s mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That’s why Anakin doesn’t have a father. He was in a bizarre and metaphorical way touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animals.”

For Sifo-Dyas and the Clone Army:

He said that Sifo-Dyas was Palpatine’s apprentice before Darth Maul and he ordered the Clone Army while pretending to still be a Jedi the entire time. It explains so much honestly and adds another layer to his relationship with Count Dooku. I like the idea of them both being tools to Palpatine’s plan to see who is more worthy of leading the Separatist Movement while also being deceived into doing the dirty work.

It’s interesting as well because he remarked in the commentary of Attack of the Clones that the Clone War is very, very important to the whole epic. I always felt Dave Filoni was hinting at there being more to the story during this retrospect for The Lost Missions too.

I like how the previous trilogies would’ve connected in his Sequels to create as cohesive as possible nine part epic. That’s something I find is very lacking in the Sequels we got.

Your DVD Collection

Just added Andrei Tarkovsky’s Nostalghia and Fritz Lang’s Metropolis.

I had planned to wait for an upgraded version of Nostalghia but I decided to go for it as I can always upgrade later if Kino decides to do so as they did with The Sacrifice. I plan to do the same with my version of Mirror when it’s released in a couple of months by Criterion.

Metropolis should be an intriguing watch. It’s my first true silent film and I know it was a major influence on George when making Star Wars.