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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread

For me, each trilogy exists in it’s own universe. The Luke, Han and Leia from ROTJ are not the same Luke, Han and Leia from TFA. And I’m also the kind of person who generally rates a movie based on what’s in that movie itself, without being as concerned about what came before or after… or what details a novelization might reveal.

With that being stated, here’s my quick review of TROS…

I really enjoyed it! The cast were all on point and there were some really striking visuals that stayed with me. It wasn’t perfect (a bit rushed near the end), but overall I left the theatre feeling satisfied… like I watched a Star Wars film.

I definitely liked it more than TLJ. In fact, I think it might be my favourite Disney-era Star Wars film so far! Not as good as the OT movies for sure, but the best thing since IMHO.

Does it do a good job wrapping up the Skywalker saga? Not really (although for me there really isn’t a Skywalker saga). Does it do a good job wrapping up this trilogy? More or less. Is it a good movie in its own right? Yes.

Now to figure out where it fits in my overall ranking!

70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!

LexX said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

So was Marcia Lucas there? Did she speak? I wonder if we’ll ever hear from her about the making of ANH…

Yes. The whole panel is on Youtube.

Could someone possibly re-post a link to said panel? I’ve skimmed through this discussion but couldn’t find anything… and my YouTube searches have yielded no results. Thanks!

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars

dahmage said:

genres are used to provide a classification for a movie, so in my mind they are fluid.

For example.

if you are trying to decide what part of a product catalog to list it in, you will be using one set of criteria, and will probably list it as Sci Fi

if you are talking to a friend and comparing Star Wars to any other sci-fi movie, you are then more likely to reach for more descriptive, specific genres, and will say that Star wars is more of a Space Fantasy than your typical sci-fi story.

Agree 100%

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars

yotsuya said:

Time setting is immaterial. Steampunk is science fiction set in the past. And you can have Space Opera set in the past (it has been done many times). Just the typical convention is to set it in our future when we have higher tech (or lower in the case of post apocalyptic SF).

I’m actually not sure if I would consider Steampunk science fiction either. But as someone else has stated, I guess it’s all about what definition of science fiction you subscribe too.

Another way to look at this question though. If you were to make seperate lists of the greatest sci-fi movies ever and the greatest fantasy movies ever, which list would you put Star Wars on?

Looking at this way I realize that I would actually put it on the sci-fi list. So even though I initially felt it was more fantasy, I now realize that the sci-fi elements are actually stronger for me.

Wow. I actually changed my mind about this whole thing just now while typing this post. Well… they say a mind that can change is a healthy one! 😃

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars

DuracellEnergizer said:

Astroboi2 said:

So the tech setting of Star Wars does make it science fiction. Space wizards are typical fare for space opera. The Mule in the Foundation stories, Paul in Dune, Gary Mitchell in Star Trek.

Except that Star Wars doesn’t take place in the future, while those other stories do. That’s the main difference.

So if someone were to write a story about an advanced alien civilization set in the distant past — and for the sake of argument, let’s say there were absolutely no mystical elements present — it still wouldn’t qualify as sci-fi?

Sounds stupid to me.

That’s a good question. I’m leaning towards no, but I’d have to read said story before deciding. I wonder if anyone has written such a thing?

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars

If science fiction is about how scientific advancements impact humanity, then Star Wars can’t be sci-fi. There aren’t any real humans. It’s just a bunch of aliens… with many that happen to look like humans and happen to speak english. It’s a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, so it’s got nothing to do with us.

Now, if they went the Battlestar Galactica route and said that these were our forefathers who would one day colonize earth, then I would argree that it’s sci-fi.

Not that I really care. Star Wars just belongs in the genre of Awesome.

<em>Solo: A Star Wars Story</em> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — <strong>SPOILERS</strong>

Just had my second viewing of Solo earlier today, and IMHO it still holds up as a really fun Star Wars movie… and a really fun movie in general. There’s a few parts that drag here and there… and there’s almost enough plot material for two movies (I feel that way about a lot of movies these days though), but overall I left the theater thrilled, wanting more stories with these characters.

The cast in general was awesome. Alden Ehrenreich’s interpretation of the young Han Solo was really fun and worked well for me (sure, he’s not quite a young Harrison Ford, but no one will be… that’s why I call it an interpretation). Joonas Suotamo, Woody Harrelson, Emilia Clarke, Paul Bettany, and of course, “Childish Gambino” himself - Donald Glover - all delivered spot-on performances that I thoroughly enjoyed watching.

Being a fan of the new Westworld series, I also really enjoyed Thandie Newton’s part… as brief as it was… and Jon Favreau’s voice work for the pilot Rio Durant was also really well done (it made that character come alive for me… again, briefly). Oh… and Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s portrayal of L3 was hilarious! I understand why some people find L3 annoying, but I think she’s great! Whether she’s supposed to be a parody or an actual SJW type of character doesn’t bother me either way. She has personality and it’s an interesting dynamic with the other characters.

If there’s only one thing I would really complain about, it would be a technical detail… the brightness… or lack there-of. My first viewing was in 3D which seemed waaay too dark. My second viewing was is 2D, which still seemed really dark, but not as bad. In general I found the movie worked better for me in 2D (which just seems right for Star Wars movies… I’ll save the 3D for Jurassic World).

And now I’ll leave you with a Yoda-style Haiku…

This Solo movie.
Much fun to see it is hmmm?
See it too… you should.

Star Wars sound mixes

Sorry for bumping an old thread - and my apologies if this isn’t the right place to ask - but does anyone know what mix is on the 1985 CAV North American laserdisc? I figured it would have been the 1985 remix/remaster, but my copy does NOT have 3P0’s extra line about the tractor beam… which I thought it would if it actually was the '85 remaster.

Ranking the Star Wars films

I debated about this for quite a while, but I think I’ve finally decided on my rankings…

  1. Star Wars
  2. The Empire Strikes Back
  3. Return of the Jedi
  4. The Force Awakens
  5. Rogue One
  6. The Last Jedi
  7. The Battle for Endor
  8. Caravan of Courage
  9. The Phantom Menace
  10. Revenge of the Sith
  11. The Star Wars Holiday Special
  12. Attack of the Clones

This was actually tougher than I thought. From 3 to 6 changed positions several times before I settled on this.

Star Wars Laserdisc Preservations. See 1st Post for Updates.

Question for all you Star Wars laserdisc peoples: Did any of you happen to notice any difference between the first two time-compressed P&S laserdisc releases of Star Wars? The first one is the Fox release from 1982, while the second is the CBS/Fox release from 1983 (both with the same catalog number of 1130-80). There was also a third time-compressed P&S release in '92… which is definitely different from the first release at least (different P&S transfer and maybe pitch correction applied too)… but I don’t have a copy of the second release to compare against them. I would download these versions to check and see, but my hard drives are stuffed full right now.

The second release is the only US release of Star Wars I’m missing from my collection and I’m trying to convince myself that I don’t need to buy it 😉

Love the fact that you’re preserving these Althor! Once I get some space on my drive I’ll have to grab these as backups for the sad day when my players die.