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#639556
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I think you're on the money about the SE making it worse. I think I know why it's weird to me.

The distance between them is actually more than the action suggests. (I've even gone over the shot with an actual DoP working in the industry). Look at the distance between Luke and the background and compare the depth of field, and notice how it has pretty deep focus, but then if the Wampa (who is OOF) is close to Luke as the action/cut suggest, then it would imply shallow depth of field which contradicts the background. So that means either the background is a matte painting - which it isn't in this shot - or that they cheated the Wampa closer to the camera (remember, a rule of thumb when shooting cinematic is to get the camera as far away from the action as possible and using a long prime lens to punch in closer) to make it look bigger, but ends up blurring it a bit.

So I guess in one sense it works, that in cheating the Wampa closer it makes him look to the correct scale, but if you notice the focal point vs background and foreground, the distance becomes more apparent.

I guess that means you won't be touching it. Thanks for answering my question! 

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#639434
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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...soooooooo was anything done to fix the continuity mistake in terms cutting in cave? You know how Luke swipes 10-meters away from the Wampa and the arm falls into frame? 

Every time I ask this question, people go off on a tangent about icicles and music and things that don't need to be changed. 

I'm merely asking if this was even addressed by ady.

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#638876
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TRON: LIBERTY *** QUICK UPDATE *** (* unfinished project *)
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Wow, this is my first time hearing the Tron 2.0 music. It's actually really cool! I was thinking of coming up with a variant of the main theme from the original in Minor with the instrument/sound basis of Legacy and see what I come up with. It might be cool.

I'm still waiting on a harddrive, video card and the bluray of the original. I learned how to use DaVinci Resolve recently and it was freaking amazing. It'll REALLY benefit this edit. 

I contacted some 3D artists a while ago to see if they could help me with redoing some of the sequence to no avail. Do you guys know anyone on these forums who could help? If not, I might have to re-learn 3DSMax or pick up Maya from my school.

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#638873
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I'm just going to repost this, considering it was lost in pointless banter:

On a more serious note, was anything done to fix the distance between Luke and the Wampa when he swipes? Either via roto, the new Wampa, trimming an edit, or moving the sound of the cut/Wampa scream over the next shot (clean shot of snow) prior to the arm falling into frame? 

The pacing in this scene was always so gripping and tense for me as a child (in a good way), right up until luke swipes at nothing while we hear the cut/scream and then see the hand fall into frame.

Not a suggestion as much as mere curiosity. 

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#638601
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TRON: LIBERTY *** QUICK UPDATE *** (* unfinished project *)
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I really liked the music from the show and Evolution, and I've also taken a liking to Oblivion and the Portal 2 Soundtracks. Also, some of the stuff from the Assassin's Creed games and Halo 4 also have a nice mix of orchestral and synth. 

I've also been considering composing some myself. Here's my first attempt at a synth/orchestral mix (my second time ever working with electronic/synth):
https://soundcloud.com/faran-esmaile-moradipour/theme-from-covert-delivery

Also, do you know how I might be able to go about extracting sounds and dialogue from a game without music and such?

I do also have Tron: Evolution. Maybe I could rip sounds off of there? I could always try to mute the music in-game, run the output line to the input line in my computer and essentially folly the entire film using the game sounds, unless there's a way to actually find the WAV files or w.e might be encoded in the actual disc. 

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#638320
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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On a more serious note, was anything done to fix the distance between Luke and the Wampa when he swipes? Either via roto, the new Wampa, trimming an edit, or moving the sound of the cut/Wampa scream over the next shot (clean shot of snow) prior to the arm falling into frame? 

The pacing in this scene was always so gripping and tense for me as a child, right up until luke swipes at nothing while we hear the cut/scream and then see the hand fall into frame.

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#638130
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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The Nerd said:

Ronster said:

Thinking about the Wampa cave and that it will be take back to more it's original state...

The main thing that bothered me is that the Wampa got his arm cut off from the shoulder and Luke never did and overhead downward or upward vertical swipe with lightsabre.

It was more of a horizontal swing which would have never managed to cut the creature in that way we see and also when you take into account it's size... His Hand being lobbed off would be far better than his whole arm.

*Edit*

Ok cool that awful scene is being cut thank god might be good to see the shot of his head roaring again at this point where he attacks luke and the taun taun but with a cave background.

A possible way to add in tension and keep the SE music score would be using dripping icicles as a device for scenes of the wampa being cut... It's like a clock or constant but accentuated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImkEZxAr9wU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0iPpCcAKHE

This may work very well to achieve a tension similar to the original or improve upon the original whilst preserving the SE score or just be a clever trick to show even less WAMPA. But I am certainly looking forward to this monster moment this may even be a better start to the sequence.

I'd even go as far to say the awful shot from the original where we see part of him walking would be better only seeing a bit of fur and some steamy breath.. or something like this..

Better he springs out of nowhere like he did before.

Better stock footage that is free to use of Icicles melting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN4iWYsYzBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2In-j3hdZU0

even if only to help animate the cave a bit better visual enhancement

We don't need melting icicles. Hoth is -3,000,000*C. Why would ice melt in the Wampa's lair? Unless the Wampa lit a match, there should be no melting ice. If we have melting icicles in the Wampa's lair, them Echo Base should be melted from all the heat from the machines and wires/cables.

 

 

Where on earth did you get that number for the temperature of Hoth or that flawed logic on how ice works? The ice would be melting because of the heat contained inside the cave being emitted by Luke and the Wampa. Secondly, lighting a match wouldn't suddenly make everything that much warmer. Third, the ice walls in Echo Base should be wet, but not completely melted. Ice works to contain heat - that means it can remain cold from the freezing temp outside whilst containing the heat inside, without melting the wall. People light fires in igloos that reach over a 100*C, and the igloos remain in tact AND contain the heat inside. 

If you sit in a car in the winter time, eventually, the windows fog up and the car gets warm because of people's body temperatures. Thing of how much heat the Wampa alone gives off if it can survive on Hoth. 

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#630695
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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vbangle said:

Asteroid-Man said:

Firstly, vbangle, the guy was innocently just trying to cover the edit's ass - no need to give him a big know-it-all response. 

Also, keep in mind that copyright laws differ from country to country. In Canada, for example, when you purchase a product you can do whatever you want to it. Make copies, edit them, w.e. Hell, you could legally do a private screening on your own property with no profit. Showing it publicly is when an issue comes up.

First of all, you can show/distribute it if the work is either meant for educational use or if it is a parody or in satire - you cannot make a profit off of it though.

You are not allowed to have a public screening outside of those two scenarios, nor are you allowed to upload/distribute copies.

Owning the source material - based on Canadian law - would theoretically make it valid. The other individual could technically make the same edit with what they have, and have just as much of a right to the fanedit as do you. Technically speaking, if you purchase the necessary sources for a fanedit, and the faneditor gave you the EDL (edit decision list) you could reconstruct the fanedit - providing you with the actual finished file is just skipping that step. 

The laws regarding this are pretty much the same thing in the States.

 

So short answer, yes it's legal, as long as you have legally purchased the source material. 

 

EDIT: Regardless, that wasn't even his question. He is just making a recommendation to put in a disclaimer - which I'm sure he'll probably do.

Canadian law, lol.

Fine, I'll play your petty little game:
17 U.S.C. § 107

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:

  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
  1. the nature of the copyrighted work;
  1. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
  1. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.


The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.[2] 

 

As you can see, Fan-edits are still completely legal as they are 100% for critic and education.

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#630548
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Firstly, vbangle, the guy was innocently just trying to cover the edit's ass - no need to give him a big know-it-all response. 

Also, keep in mind that copyright laws differ from country to country. In Canada, for example, when you purchase a product you can do whatever you want to it. Make copies, edit them, w.e. Hell, you could legally do a private screening on your own property with no profit. Showing it publicly is when an issue comes up.

First of all, you can show/distribute it if the work is either meant for educational use or if it is a parody or in satire - you cannot make a profit off of it though.

You are not allowed to have a public screening outside of those two scenarios, nor are you allowed to upload/distribute copies.

Owning the source material - based on Canadian law - would theoretically make it valid. The other individual could technically make the same edit with what they have, and have just as much of a right to the fanedit as do you. Technically speaking, if you purchase the necessary sources for a fanedit, and the faneditor gave you the EDL (edit decision list) you could reconstruct the fanedit - providing you with the actual finished file is just skipping that step. 

The laws regarding this are pretty much the same thing in the States.

 

So short answer, yes it's legal, as long as you have legally purchased the source material. 

 

EDIT: Regardless, that wasn't even his question. He is just making a recommendation to put in a disclaimer - which I'm sure he'll probably do.

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#629572
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Editing in Avid Media Composer (Blu-ray and beyond)
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Hey guys,

So I've been trying to figure out the best way to edit Blu-ray footage and I was able to get it to work with Avid Media Composer 6.

First off, why Avid? It's the most stable, intuitive, well-rounded Non-Linear Editing system I have ever used. It is industry standard for a reason, and I STRONGLY encourage all Fan-Editors migrate to this brilliant program.

That said, many of you might be left wondering how to set up a Blu-ray sourced video in Avid MC. Here's a simple little guideline:

VIDEO:
Once you've ripped the M2TS files (using DVDFab or even just copying the files right off of the disc in some cases), you'll notice that Avid cannot import these files. You'll need to manually create Avid friendly files using Sorenson Squeeze (comes with Avid Media Composer).

Import the M2TS files into Squeeze and set the profile to MOV with these settings:

Streaming (hinted)
AVID DNcHD Codec
23.98 fps
(Under codec options, set it to 709 color levels, Alpha->None, and 1080p/23.976 DNxHD 175 8-bit)
Force Key Frame Every 300

I'm going to try some tests with more frequent keyframes and an Avid 1:1 setting, but I feel like it wouldn't be too much better and secondly, good look getting your computer to edit that. 

The file will be about 3.7 times larger than the original file. (Tested with a 250mb file)

This file can be AMA linked into Avid with no lag.


AUDIO

M2TS -> DTS
Use tsMuxeR to convert the M2TS to DTS (DEMUX audio only)

DTS -> AC3
Rename the DTS to: input.dts
Place the "input.dts" file into the "dts2ac3" folder
Run the .bat file -> should end up with output.ac3


I believe the AC3 SHOULD be enough. In case you want 6 WAV tracks...

AC3 -> WAV
Run BeSweetGUI
Link the EXE to BeSweetv1.4
Link the ac3 we created earlier
Output to WAV 6 tracks


NOTE: AVISYNTH AND DOTNETFX MUST BE INSTALLED!!!



I'll let you guys know once I've run more tests! 

Cheers!



A-Man

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#629373
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TRON: LIBERTY *** QUICK UPDATE *** (* unfinished project *)
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At this point it's mostly going to be music and colour grading. Before moving forward I need a new HDD and an NVIDIA graphics card, but yeah the idea is to have it fall a bit more in line with the new one. 

I loved Uprising. It's a damn shame most of the music sounds like a royalty free knockoff of the music for Legacy though as opposed to just using the actual music from Legacy.

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#629121
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TRON: LIBERTY *** QUICK UPDATE *** (* unfinished project *)
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Quick Update:

MUSIC:
Been playing around with a bunch of different VSTs and plugins (one of which Daft Punk actually used for "Derezzed").  

I'll be testing out some of this stuff on my own short film as well. I'll show you guys when it's done for reactions.

I've also just received the soundtrack to Tron Uprising.

 

EDITING:

I'm going to have to look into buying a new HDD specifically for fanedits - with that, I'll also be looking into getting a USB 3.0 or firewire 800 controller for my computer. 

 

COLOUR GRADING:

I've mentioned how I wanted to use Resolve but will need an NVIDIA Graphics card, so this too would need a new purchase on my end.

 

I'm getting there, guys! Slowly, but surely!