Can't the bombs send out a few light waves to make it look like radar trasmitters of sorts? A reason to them not finding the falcon could be because they're inside a worm.
The Golden Idol said:Ripplin said:The Golden Idol said:Straws... ?
Grasping at...
OK, got it. :)
I didn't. :(
But don't worry I looked it up! Man, your British people have some weird terms. I still don't understand what that means, even after reading a whole page on it. :S
Vaderisnothayden said:Asteroid-Man said:skyjedi2005 said:I would rather have the 1983 return of the jedi and its minor flaws instead of connecting it to the awful 1997, 2004 special editions changes or the prequels.
The most dumb thing of all was adding Hayden who was 2 years old when Return was released in '83. Oh and of course Gun gans and jar jar. Naboo a later invention and coruscant straight out of the EU. The prequels and special editions are more connected to the current EU than the real trilogy circa 1977-1983.
The prequels should have fit those versions of the films and not gone the video game graphics cartoon route the special editions are directly repsonsible for. Adding EU things like the outrider and the motorcyle from shadows of the empire was stupidity. A Jabba the Hutt in 1997 who looks more like the cutesy cartoon version of slimer on the real ghostbusters instead of the big overgrown sluglike gangster we saw in return of the jedi.
I too would have preferred a wookiee battle but the one we got in revenge of the sith was pathetic over the top cgi and bad computer matted in trees and huts instead of the beautiful matte paintings done on return of the jedi.
Most of Mayhews performance appears to be via a cgi double except maybe for one or 2 shots. That was just another over the top and unecessary use of cgi. Necessary only to cuts corners and spend less money by not having all the actors costumed or build sets. When it can all be greenscreened and done fake in a computer.
It is a foregone conclusion that i hate what the prequels did to star wars a once great and mythic saga for our times.
Though you can never really go home again when it comes to revisiting these franchises even Indiana Jones was destroyed in 2008 by overly comic goofyness and over the top cgi and a bad script. It was like old home weak prequels style,lol.
The Clone Wars movie was just a mediocre nothing and did not elicit any emotional outrage. It was "meh" more than anything. The same with the series on tv. The spark of life star wars once had has been snuffed out a long time ago Return of the Jedi should have been the last film. Sometimes less is more. Intead of beating a dead horse for money only. That is what star wars has become a merchandising empire only. The idea of making a good story ended some time i don't know during or after the original trilogy.
The downward spiral was already in evidence on return of the Jedi with Lucas basically writing the story himself. And all but directing the film. The absence of a real Lawrence Kasden script like empire strikes back, a good director like Kershner or a producer like Gary Kurtz.
The real problem most people had with Jedi was it was a rehash of 1977 star wars, much like the same critcisms were made over the last crusade being a rehash of raiders of the lost ark. Once you got to Crystal Skull you got a rehash of a rehash, lol. The only film that tried to do something different temple of doom met with harsh crticism, unlike empire strikes back the dark second act of star wars which was received with high levels of praise.
Return of the Jedi was a more kid friendly film and more fun than empire. It was a more popcorn action flick and did not take itself too seriously. In the end it made more than empire strikes back. So Lucas added even more kiddie content to the phantom menace and that made even more money than before.
The point was to do your OWN version of ROTJ, not for you to make yet another rant of the SEs and PT.
I don't see why he shouldn't "rant" about the SE's and PT. And you can't say he's bringing "negativity" into a "positive" thread, because this whole thread is one big implied bash of ROTJ, which never deserved the bashing. Much better to bash the PT and SE, which DO deserve the bashing. I applaud skyjedi's post.
You quote "negativity into a positive thread" as if I said that, yet I didn't. And ranting about SE's and PT's are completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Many people just expected something different from ROTJ after watching SW and ESB and I thought it would be nice if we could share our ideas. I even do this with The Dark Knight which is one of my favorite films. If you like ROTJ exactly the way it is, fine then don't comment in a thread asking you "What you would have done differently?"
Oh ya! Thanks, I forgot about that!
skyjedi2005 said:I would rather have the 1983 return of the jedi and its minor flaws instead of connecting it to the awful 1997, 2004 special editions changes or the prequels.
The most dumb thing of all was adding Hayden who was 2 years old when Return was released in '83. Oh and of course Gun gans and jar jar. Naboo a later invention and coruscant straight out of the EU. The prequels and special editions are more connected to the current EU than the real trilogy circa 1977-1983.
The prequels should have fit those versions of the films and not gone the video game graphics cartoon route the special editions are directly repsonsible for. Adding EU things like the outrider and the motorcyle from shadows of the empire was stupidity. A Jabba the Hutt in 1997 who looks more like the cutesy cartoon version of slimer on the real ghostbusters instead of the big overgrown sluglike gangster we saw in return of the jedi.
I too would have preferred a wookiee battle but the one we got in revenge of the sith was pathetic over the top cgi and bad computer matted in trees and huts instead of the beautiful matte paintings done on return of the jedi.
Most of Mayhews performance appears to be via a cgi double except maybe for one or 2 shots. That was just another over the top and unecessary use of cgi. Necessary only to cuts corners and spend less money by not having all the actors costumed or build sets. When it can all be greenscreened and done fake in a computer.
It is a foregone conclusion that i hate what the prequels did to star wars a once great and mythic saga for our times.
Though you can never really go home again when it comes to revisiting these franchises even Indiana Jones was destroyed in 2008 by overly comic goofyness and over the top cgi and a bad script. It was like old home weak prequels style,lol.
The Clone Wars movie was just a mediocre nothing and did not elicit any emotional outrage. It was "meh" more than anything. The same with the series on tv. The spark of life star wars once had has been snuffed out a long time ago Return of the Jedi should have been the last film. Sometimes less is more. Intead of beating a dead horse for money only. That is what star wars has become a merchandising empire only. The idea of making a good story ended some time i don't know during or after the original trilogy.
The downward spiral was already in evidence on return of the Jedi with Lucas basically writing the story himself. And all but directing the film. The absence of a real Lawrence Kasden script like empire strikes back, a good director like Kershner or a producer like Gary Kurtz.
The real problem most people had with Jedi was it was a rehash of 1977 star wars, much like the same critcisms were made over the last crusade being a rehash of raiders of the lost ark. Once you got to Crystal Skull you got a rehash of a rehash, lol. The only film that tried to do something different temple of doom met with harsh crticism, unlike empire strikes back the dark second act of star wars which was received with high levels of praise.
Return of the Jedi was a more kid friendly film and more fun than empire. It was a more popcorn action flick and did not take itself too seriously. In the end it made more than empire strikes back. So Lucas added even more kiddie content to the phantom menace and that made even more money than before.
The point was to do your OWN version of ROTJ, not for you to make yet another rant of the SEs and PT.
I like the idea of us not seeing the emperor until the end. Also, seeing Vader fight troups on his own would be very nice to watch. I'll add those to how I would have wanted it with the space battle first taken place over Coruscant and then in the Death Star.
I would want two sets. The original releases of all of them with slight fixes in them like re-doing lasers, remastering sound (not re-dubbing) and maybe adding engine glows.
I would also like a Special Edition of the entire saga where Jar Jar's scenes are re-done completely so he isn't an idiot, he has correct gramatical speech and his voice is lower. Editing Anakin's lines in the prequels, making Yoda CG in TPM and redoing Yoda in 1-3 to make him a hybrid of the prequel yodas and the original yodas. Add in the deleted scenes, delete unneeded scenes (like Obi-Wan talking with Dooku). Colour Jango's armour like a clean armour of Boba's (without the scratches), rework the emperor's face in all of the films to make him more believable, add expression to Yoda's face and make his voice consistant in ESB so that it doesn't go higher than 1-3 and 6 (in the movie, his voice is very high at times), rework all of the explosions in the OT, re-cut the duels in the OT to make them faster paced. Add flashback scenes in the OT (Obi-Wan remember the old times, and Vader's remunitions while Luke is being shocked). Have the emperor hand Anakin a new lightsaber in the holgram of the Jedi Temple and then Obi-Wan picks up Anakin's old lightsaber (could easily be done from afar with CGI) so that in the final battle, Anakin's lightsaber is red. Anakin's eyes should be consistantly yellow once we see him on Mustafar. (They are only yellow in one shot, wth?) Add music to the podrace scene and to the execution scene. Re-dub Greivous's voice, get rid of Vader's "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!" and change it to him just yelling "AAAAARGH!" with everything in the room floating and flying violently. For OT do a lot of what Ady did.
This way I could have the original ones, and a more modern saga.
I like angel's idea of the bombs. Ady, why not just make it less powerful? As in, make it look like it does something but without being too lethal, and just something to draw out the Falcon as you said?
There are little bits of ROTJ that made it not as good as it could have been. It had the potential to be the best Star Wars film but failed. How would you have done it?
Here's my take:
If Endor's moon was actually a moon of Coruscant and if it was actually Kashykk, I would have loved to see Han and Chewie leading an assault on Endor and then Luke and Leia leading a battle on Coruscant, and then Luke fights his way to the Emperor's office on Coruscant in the old Republic Building, now Emperial Palace and Vader is awaiting Luke in the office. Vader then takes Luke with him to the Death Star Orbitting Coruscant. On Kashyyk, Chewie and Han free Wookie slaves to use them as help to take out the Death Star Shield. The Death Star dogfight is lead by Lando. Han has to manually detonate the charges in the shield room on Kashyyk because the remote fails to work and he is hurt by the blast. The Vader Vs. Luke battle should have a faster paced score and then it becomes slow and Dark when the Emperor intervenes. Death Star scene continues until Vader's death. Vader disappears from the suit and there is a funeral pyre on Coruscant. Luke and Leia go to Kashyyk where Han is dying. As they (Lando, Luke, Leia and Chewie) are standing around him, a last speech is given from one of them or Luke, Leia and Han. Han dies as the camera pulls back to reveal the force ghosts watching over. Camera pulls up to show the sky turn to daylight. Fireworks go off. In the morning, we see a montage of celebrations around the Galaxy, and then we get a scene where Luke is in the old Council room (partly damaged and lit only by the window) with the force ghosts sitting in their seats as they have their last words with Luke. Roll Credits.
I would love copies of this too please.
Ady, are you going to be working on the edges of the rebel ships in the hoth battle? They've got shadows around them.
Ripplin I just recieved it. I'll be burning it today and sending it sometime this week.
I'd say a cross between Paul Eddington and a pidgeon.
Speaking of Ian McDiarmid, does anyone else think he kind of looks like a pidgeon?
Ian McDiarmid did play the Emperor in ROTJ.
Can we just move on RR? The guy made a mistake, and he's new here. The more we persist the more he'll goad us for other reactions. Does anyone know if Ady finished the emperor's scene and what ady's working on now?
Why not just tint the entire film green so we can't tell the laser colours apart?
I kid! :D
Happy Birthday Ady.
Windows Movie Maker. Sorry Janskeet, you'll have to pay for pro editing software (or take on the ways of the Pirate)
Wow... talk about nit-picking.
Sweet. Just so you guys know, the new logo won't be featured in the preview version, but it will be in the final DVD in December. By the way Ripplin, did you get my pm?
Also please note: The prologue is included in the preview but I plan on removing it, fixing the many frame errors that were missed and putting it as a bonus feature because it's 24 minutes of an intro that most of us (including the common audience) knows already.
Yes sir. Under the same account.
Is it better than the old one?
New Opening Logo of mine:
Yeah, right now donations aren't needed. If you really wanted to know I could drop my paypal account for you.
Ripplin, would that be alright if you send me a DVD-9?