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- #108845
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- The Emperor in ESB
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108845/action/topic#108845
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Asha
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- #108824
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- FOX issuing takedown notices to Sith downloaders
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108824/action/topic#108824
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Having the bootleg didn't stop me from seeing the movie a half dozen times (or more) in the theatre. The bootleg was no substitute for the real thing.
I don't download movies. I don't buy bootlegs UNLESS I cannot buy or watch the film/show in a given format (re: the untainted Star Wars films), in which case I feel NO GUILT procuring a bootleg. I've no interest in seeing current films on dvd or my computer before their official release in said formats ... I can wait.
What's REALLY funny is the fact that making a big fuss about bootlegs and threatening people just makes bootlegging infinitely more popular. I mean, I don't even like Revenge of the Sith that much, yet now I want to download or buy a bootleg JUST IN SPITE OF FOX.
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- #108815
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- This guy REALLY hates the prequels
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108815/action/topic#108815
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Agreed. Apparently this guy didn't even know that Henson was the voice for Yoda.
Frank Oz ... not Henson.
Wendy Froud also had a hand in designing Yoda.
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- #108793
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- ROTS: I'm gonna get my fur kicked for this
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108793/action/topic#108793
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- #108784
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- This guy REALLY hates the prequels
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108784/action/topic#108784
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If I had one criticism about that article, it would be that the over-merchandising of Star Wars is nothing new ... Return of the Jedi's use in advertising was just as nauseating as Sith's (C3PO cereal, anyone?).
Oh, and the Henson bit is wrong. Henson himself really didn't have much/anything to do with Yoda ... most of the people who were involved are still alive and kicking.
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- #108764
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- This guy REALLY hates the prequels
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108764/action/topic#108764
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- #107633
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- SW Books Question
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107633/action/topic#107633
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Technically, two Jedi clones.
Just no Emperor clones. I'm also well aware that it was supposed to be Kenobi. Speaking of which, what was the reasoning of Ben on why he couldn't appear to Luke anymore? I remember him saying that, but it's been so long I forgot why.
My bad. I pretty much stopped following the expanded universe stories when the emperor's clone was introduced. I thought that was fairly early in the expanded universe offerings, but I guess it wasn't.
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- #107610
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107610/action/topic#107610
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- #107406
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- Anakin's Father...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107406/action/topic#107406
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And as I've said before: I never liked the "virgin birth" scenario, but I don't mind it *quite* as much if Palps had something to do with it. At least the Sith virgin birth scenario has a purpose that's not rooted in mythic mumbo-jumbo.
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- #107393
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- SW Books Question
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107393/action/topic#107393
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- #107388
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107388/action/topic#107388
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I just returned from seeing Sith again ... yeah yeah, I know. I said I wouldn't. I didn't have a choice ... a friend bought a ticket for me.
Guess what? It's still disappointing the second time around.
I've since realized that General Grievous graduated first in his class from THE TROLL 2 SCHOOL OF DRAMA. Really ... he's the worst cgi robot ever ... and Lucas has coughed up a lot of lousy robots in these prequels.
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- #107190
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107190/action/topic#107190
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Two things. One, Obi Wan could not kill Anakin at that point, because Anakin was defenseless. Two, has anyone here ever seen a Douglas Fairbanks or Erroll Flynn film here? If so, Obi Wan's gesturing and 'high ground' comment are great homages to the swashbucklers found in those films.
Just say "NOOOOO" to homages!
Again, though: seeing how the laws of gravity rarely apply to Jedi, why the heck would "high ground" mean anything? It's never affected anything before ... quite the opposite. It's just a silly example of Lucas' trying to tell something (badly) he should have simply shown. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the very fact the line of dialogue was uttered at all means Lucas needed to re-write that scene.
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- #107100
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107100/action/topic#107100
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So complaining about the high ground thing is pretty dumb, because it's obvious the way it was meant to be taken...
I disagree ... again, at best it's just a poor choice of dialogue ... a weak handshake at a pivotal moment. Yes, we already know Kenobi doesn't really want to be fighting Anakin. It's just that Ben's "higher ground" advantage here is dramatically lacking ...
It's certainly not my biggest problem with the ending; it's one gripe in a boiling lava pit of climactic plot problems.
My biggest issue is the fact that Ben left Anakin to suffer horribly and die. That sucks. It would have been cooler had Ben offered a hand to Anakin ... "come with me back to the light side," and Anakin refused, screaming, "No. I hate you!" Like Luke chose to fall in Bespin, Anakin actively would have chosen the painful path of the dark side by refusing Ben's hand. And that's why Ben would have been convinced that there was no good left in Vader. "Obi-wan once thought as you do."
Re: Boba Fett in clones ..... yeah, that remains unforgivably lame.
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- #107085
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107085/action/topic#107085
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Do you want me to explain further, or do you see it?
What? You're trying to suggest that six Tatooine months aren't six months, right? Even though you previously inferred I was full of shit when I said that the time frame was established in the book. That's commonly known as "grasping at straws when you've been proven wrong."
We know from Empire Strikes Back that Luke was able to hone his own skills quite well without formal training ... since he was able to levitate his lightsaber in the Wampa cave (something he was unable to do in Star Wars). We know that Luke wasn't taught to build a lightsaber by Yoda because he's still using his father's saber at the end of Empire and he didn't have a spare on "hand." His training wasn't complete when he left Yoda ... it's easier to believe that he taught himself how to build the saber because he's a smart cookie than it is to believe that Yoda taught him to build a lightsaber that never appears ANYWHERE.
It's kinda cute, though, how my disappointment with Revenge of the Sith is, to you, an attempt at ruining the film. To you, this disappointment requires work. Conversely, the way I see it, enjoying these prequel films requires far more labor.
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- #107064
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107064/action/topic#107064
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{Han} was, understandably, disoriented, after having been in suspended animation for six of this desert planet's months ...
I believe the six months was expanded to a year around the time Shadow of the Empire was launched.
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...this lightsaber Luke had fashioned himself in Obi-Wan Kenobi's abandoned hut on the other side of Tatoonine, made with the old Master Jedi's tools and parts, made with love and craft and dire need.
Amazing how I haven't read this book since around 1984, yet can flip to the passages with ease without even having this in a digital format. More amazing that I even remember these details without having to refresh my memory, I guess.
And hey, since we've switched to "annoying hyper geek mode" ... we know lifeforms in this universe shit and fart, because Jar Jar stepped in crap. And we know that Anakin made love to Padme because, when he was informed that she was pregnant, he didn't squeal, "That can't be! We never did the nasty! Are you sure it's mine?"
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- #107043
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107043/action/topic#107043
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Read the novelization again ... I believe Lando is the one who determines the time frame, but it's determined in the Jabba portion of the book. And surely you know how the novel begins ... with Luke building his own lightsaber.
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- #107039
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107039/action/topic#107039
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Clearly, Luke is far more skilled at the beginning of RotJ than the end of Empire Strikes Back, so he was in heavy self-training in the time between those films. He's a completely different man ... so much so that Han can hardly believe it. Luke even built his own lightsaber ... something I didn't see Yoda teach him.
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- #107034
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- My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107034/action/topic#107034
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There's more Star Wars that contradicts the films than not ... so much so that it's hardly worth following the expanded universe. Whatever Lucas publishes today can't be trusted tomorrow .... except for the films, and he can't even keep those straight. It's really not some big puzzle that all comes together in the end ... in fact that's one of the main reasons I find Sith so disappointing. Stuff like wiping C3PO's memory or tossing in the Death Star 20 years ahead of time is akin to cutting a jigsaw puzzle piece with a pair of scissors to make it fit with the larger puzzle ... cut enough pieces of the puzzle and it no longer forms a clear picture when completed.
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- #107026
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107026/action/topic#107026
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But then, he's not strong enough to fight Palpatine ... he so weak by comparison that I wonder if Ben and Yoda expected that he'd be able to win against the sith, or else they saw him as a lamb to the slaughter who'd bring out the good pity in Vader's heart. You could say that they only intended Luke to fight Vader, but I'd think that they could see more clearly than that ... they'd know that Vader would want Luke to turn more than he'd want Luke to die, and so Luke would be exposed to Palps sooner rather than later.
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- #107023
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- My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107023/action/topic#107023
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- #107016
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- My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107016/action/topic#107016
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- #107005
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- My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107005/action/topic#107005
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I guess no one goes to the bathroom in AGFFA as well? Was Padme's pregnancy also a "virgin birth", too? I don't remember them consumating their marriage.
That's not the point ... there was once a backstory about the Plagueus that would render him too old to have anything to do with Anakin. The backstory isn't reliable because it's not in the films ... the same way Owen is not Kenobi's brother even though that's what the original Return of the Jedi book said. The same way that renders Boba Fett's orginal backstory to be moot.
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- #106996
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106996/action/topic#106996
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OK ... and if over-confidence was the issue, then why didn't ben just yell, "No, Anakin ... you'll never make the jump!" Tossing out some vague new battle strategy involving "high ground" is, at best, another awful choice of explanatory dialogue. At worst, it's a cop-out.
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- #106977
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106977/action/topic#106977
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This concept of "high ground" hasn't been an issue in any previous battle ... it was merely a convenient and highly lame way to end this fight. And yeah ... had Ben exploited a weakness in Vader that was rooted in Anakin's fall to the dark side (re: attacking Dooku in a fit of anger and losing his hand) it would be far more acceptable than nonsense about high ground.
And the attempts at explaining away the construction of the Death star don't work for me AT ALL. Sorry, but it just doesn't add up. Twenty years to construct one Death Star ... and six months to two years to construct a second? Not even Henry Ford could achieve that feat. Lucas was feebly trying to tie-in images from the original film to justify Revenge of the Sith in the face of all logic.
It seems to me that you're choosing to file plot holes YOU don't want to acknowledge as "nitpicks."
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- #106948
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- Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106948/action/topic#106948
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I also didn't like the "Anakin, don't do it. I have the high ground!" WTF? Since when were battles determined by who has the high ground?
I had envisioned something cool and witty at the end of that fight ... like Anakin was about to kill Ben and then Kenobi turned Anakin's artificial hand against himself. Not some nonsense about "high ground."
Also, did it bother anyone else that it apparently took the Empire 20 years to complete the first Death Star, yet it only took two or three years to *almost* complete a second bigger, deadlier Death Star. I hate the fact that they showed the Death Star at the end of Revenge of the Sith.