chyron8472 said:
But suddenly I hear "Suspended in the infinite void of outer space, words in giant gold letters roll slowly oit from beneath us and disappear into the distant stars. They read: 'Episode IV: A New Hope.'"
Can someone edit this out in Audacity or something?
[Reserved for Part 4: Cables, etc.]
[Reserved for Part 3: The Capture Card]
Part 2: The Comb Filter
An excellent comb filter is needed to split the luma and chroma of the Pioneer CLD-1010's "pure" composite video output. Unfortunately, the one that's included with my capture card of choice (see Part 3) is pretty bad.
I find 3D comb filter artifacts (e.g., checkerboarding on fast shot-changes and smearing) more objectionable than the composite video artifacts (e.g., cross-color) that a 3D comb filter is designed to remove from stationary frames. Frankly, I'd rather see rainbowing than smearing.
The last thing I'd want to do is introduce a temporal anomaly (e.g., smearing) that can't be fixed later. OTers who love 3D comb filters can always use a Leitch DPS-475/575 or tritical's TComb on the raws I'll be posting to Usenet.
Now, poita suggested the Extron YCS-100 and I agree with him that it's the best standalone 2D comb filter available: Adaptive 2D, 5-line; 10bpp processing; full chroma resolution; and a time base stabilizer to boot. Hell, it even manages to do a rather good job with the S&W Zone Plate which is really a better test of 3D comb filters than 2D ones.
Here's a hyperlink to the brochure: http://media.extron.com/download/files/brochure/ycs_100bro.pdf
Since I'm still waiting for my Panasonic LX-900 to return, I've decided to put together a different LD capturing setup.
Part 1: The LD Player
LD Player Requirements:
1. Pure analog video output
2. Minimal CLV smear
3. Cheap!
4. "Balanced" video noise density
5. At least 420 lines of horizontal resolution and at least 46dB video SNR
The only LD player that I can afford (after all of the money I've spent on my Panasonic LX-900) which meets these requirements is the Pioneer CLD-1010. I've already acquired one and had it professionally calibrated and reconditioned by Kurtis Bahr.
Here's a blurb on it:
Ty Chamberlain said:
The CLD-1010 is a totally solid state player with a CCD Time Base Corrector. It also incorporates the same, superior analog video noise reduction circuitry that is contained in the LD-W1 and the Pioneer Elite LD-S1. The laser uses the Accu-Focus system, and achieves a .55 micron laser spot for 420 lines of resolution. In addition, the LaserRF amp is attached directly to the pickup, for RF-noise rejection. The player also incorporates Video Noise Coring, that eliminates video noise (snow) in dark parts of the picture. This helps tremendously with imperfectly pressed CLV/CAA Extended Play titles. One extra special aspect of the CLD-1010, and what sets it apart from all other Solid State LD players, either before or since, is its Laser Diode uses a RED laser of 6228 Angstroms. No other LD player or CD player with a Diode Laser has used a red laser. Red Lasers are VERY expensive and difficult to produce. But, they achieve an incredibly tight beam, and have excellent noise rejection. Plus, the red color of the laser makes most scratches and blemishes on the surface of the disc invisible to the photo diode system. Strangely, Pioneer never talked about this feature nor did they promote it.
Here's another quote from Ty:
disclord said:
I have a DVL-700 modded by MSB, an LD-1100, a CLD1010 and Sony Lasermax Pioneer LD-700 clone and none have CLV smear on my Sanyo Z3 projector, Toshiba LCD 1080p flat panel or my Sony 35 inch XBR Wega.
gumbyandpals on LDDb claims that the CLD-1010 exhibits a little CLV smear. Here's a quote from a PM from him on LDDb on that:
AntcuFaalb said:
Does your CLD-1010 exhibit any CLV Smear?
gumbyandpals said:
It does, but very minimal
About the same as the ld-s2 if you've seen that. Less than a Cld-95 or 97. Drastically less than a cld-d704.
THX11384EB said:
I am curious if whoever(AntcuFaalb?) is doing the LD capping would need a copy of the Japanese LD? I have it, and would like to help out any way I can.
Thanks. I appreciate the offer, but I've already purchased three copies of the US LD (for a proper two-out-of-three pass).
zeropc said:
there is a featurette on s.e.ld box / s.e. dvd / skynet bd regarding the color changes.it shows how it looked and what it was turned into.
Interesting. I wonder if the "how it looked" parts can be used as an accurate color reference.
usenetserver.com is great. I've been with them for nearly a year now.
The Griff said:
AntcuFaalb said:
The Griff said:
No luck with Jdownloader (which installed a virus/malware on my pc), either.
Let me guess: During installation, you just kept clicking next without reading each dialog, right?
Not at all. I did the custom install and disabled the search bar option. My virus killer threw up an alert, so I quarantined that but I still got served a healthy helping of malware.
Did you also click "Decline" in that one dialog?
TV's Frink said:
Stinky-Dinkins said:
I am fully for this, but I remain against Frink.
I know that's how you like it, baby.
Split double-post! Oh, yes!!!
Harmy said:
Yeah, I remember they mentioned it on the show on several occasions :-)
I also know very little about MythBusters. :-D
The Griff said:
No luck with Jdownloader (which installed a virus/malware on my pc), either.
Let me guess: During installation, you just kept clicking next without reading each dialog, right?
Harmy said:
Oh, yeah - didn't you know they worked on the prequels?
Nope. I know very little about the PT.
dark_jedi said:
So those of you that have not commented yet do you like this release?
I haven't gotten around to downloading it yet.
I'll comment here as soon as I do!
Bingowings said:
WTF?! Is that the MythBusters guy?!
Spaced Ranger said:
BTW, your PM inbox is full. So ...
... if you are doing the THX 1138 LD capture(s) any time soon -- which I expect will be the best ever -- could that one, with our extras, be the combined project? And no problem if you want to do the final construction.
If not, I'll continue with SilverWook's excellent captures. But I had to ask, for the obvious reason of why we're here. :)
It's empty now.
Also, the answer is: yes! :-)
ww12345 said:
For what it's worth, Spaced Ranger, I think luminance stabilizing has to be done on a shot by shot basis. Iirc, that's what Antcufaalb said when we were working on some other 16mm projects. Maybe he'll pop in here and give us some more info...
This is true.
The easiest way to do it is to lock the brightness+contrast of a shot to that of its first frame.
(Now, this might screw up a shot of–for instance–a flickering lightbulb, but that's a different story...)
A certain program that ends in "clean" does this rather well.
DominicCobb said:
HotRod said:
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Agreed.
Indeed.
Post 9998!
drngr said:
An RGB capture would rely even more on the '90s video processing of the LD player than using S-Video output does (further down the chain of decoding from composite color encoding). So I'm skeptical. We want to go in the opposite direction.
Agreed.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
So the last test I should do is to use a "pure" analog laserdisc player...
The LD player I used in my test is "pure" analog: Pioneer CLD-1010
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
I don't think it would work with video signal, but if something like this exists for video signal, then it could work!
Why not? Composite video is just an FM signal.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
It's what I was thinking about... as in theory it does work!
What about something like this? http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov03/articles/littlelabs.htm
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
What about poita's positive result? Could you write something about them?
I haven't seen his results. He only mentioned to me that he was able to get it working with a DVD recorder.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
Meanwhile, if someone could solve the infamous phase-inversion trick... (^^,)
I wonder if we can use a device with a phase inversion circuit like the audio processing guys do.
Hmm...
