AntcuFaalb

jedimasterobiwan said:

i don't know what happened you have to highlight my above message to see it sporv.

Why are you asking about Halloween in a Raiders of the Lost Ark thread?

jedimasterobiwan said:

spoRv do you a have a myspleen torrent or b have a dlc download for your halloween edit?

Wrong thread. I suggest PMing Andrea.

Spaced Ranger said:

[@ AntcuFaalb - There's only so much that can be done with laserdisc, but I've been impressed at your approach tantalizingly revealed in assorted threads. When you've finished, I hope you will detail your finalized procedure and equipment chain for those of us who wish to duplicate your results. Seeing your raw cap(s) and finished capture would be awesome! Any time-frame on this?]

It's funny you mention this now. I plan to re-capture all 3 this weekend with my new sexy Leitch DPS-575.

The full chain is now: Runco LJR-II =(BNC)=> Leitch DPS-575 =(SDI)=> Blackmagic UltraStudio Mini Recorder =(Thunderbolt) => Late 2012 Mac mini.

The 3D comb filter in the DPS-575 is amazing.

Until poita and I can work out some way to fix the red fade, I'll be releasing a B&W 1080p ProRes Proxy encode of the scan. The raws will always be available via HDD->HDD copy, of course.

slask said:

It that's the case, let's hope so.

That *is* the case and it's why LFL sought one out when color-correcting the 97SE.

I've seen one 4K 35mm IB Technicolor film scan of SW and I know of the existence of at least 3-5 more. They're beautiful.

slask said:

Maybe 35mm prints have more visible detail, but what about the color timing?

IB Technicolor prints take a long time to fade. A really, really, really long time.

So long that it's safe to say that (color-wise, at least) they look exactly as they did in 1977/8.

Eastman Kodak prints... now that's a different story.

pittrek said:

including some Technicolor prints if I remember correctly

Nope. By agreement the one used by LFL in 1995/6 for color-correcting the 97SE was shipped back to the collector they borrowed it from.

slask said:

So on one hand I'd love to see new stunning transfers for these three movies, on the other hand I realistically think there are not many chances of seeing state of the art HD remaster without scanning proper source material.

It has been demonstrated that the '77 35mm IB Technicolor release prints have more visible detail than what's available on the current BD.

Disney can acquire (100% of them are in the hands of collectors currently) one and use it as the basis of restoration or they can go back to one of the IP or IN prints they have lying around in the archives and use that.

There's absolutely no need to go back to the negative. It would be nice, yes, but there's enough evidence now for me to say with confidence that it's not a requirement.

jedimasterobiwan said:

thanks Darth Lucas also i like your avatar it's pretty funny

Yes, it is, but your avatar is much better.

EyeShotFirst said:

Star Wars done in a style similar to Cowboy Bebop would be a huge hit. People would go nuts for it. I would hope a Japanese studio develops it. They are doing animation on a level that America just doesn't do anymore. Even our cartoons are done in computer programs that do all the hard work for us.

I share your appreciation for non-CGI animation, but do know that computer programs most certainly do not do "all the hard work" for modern animators.

Standards have risen. The work is still fucking grueling.

The same goes for anabolic/androgenic steroid use. Professional bodybuilders have to work their asses off to look the way they do in competition. Steroids are not magic and neither are computers.

The key thing here is Lynne's use of the word "earlier". It implies that the current versions are upgrades rather than alterations and it legitimizes them in consequence.

I've now done lots of still comparisons with WOWOW vs. grade-matched BD and I can honestly say that the WOWOW, surprisingly, has more detail.

The software I use for the MatchGrade also has a basic image registration algorithm, so the stills used for my comparison were spatially aligned rather well.

The difference is striking.

I'd like to despecialize the WOWOW, but I can't without access to that 10 year old 1080i MPEG-2 ABC TV broadcast version capture. I'm still digging, but I haven't had any luck yet.

For now we may have to settle on the 2003 "enhanced" version.

I still have to remove the burned-in JP subs from those shots. I may seek outside help to get it done well.

Molly said:

Would that not indicate that the 2009 version is, in that one respect at least, an improvement?

Oh geez. Don't tell me we need a Beatles albums preservation thread.

Most of the work is already done. Japanese Red Wax Mono FTW. PBTHAL FTW.

TServo2049 said:

The P&S Dolby mix needs to be preserved. The only problem is that it was only ever released in the U.S. in analog.

This, perhaps? http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/47205/SLC-007C/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-%281981%29

Hmmm... still digging.

I still don't see what's wrong with using an IP as the basis for restoration. Scanning the negative in this case just doesn't seem worth it to me.

towne32 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

I'm desparately searching for this rip. Can someone please help me out?

 I've looked for it too. But, as with many of these kinds of rips, the links and seeds died out when the bluray rips hit the internet. 

I'm following some leads, but I haven't had any success yet.

poita said:

Quick poll, how many of you pronounce it TEE-AICH-EX and how many pronounce it 'THEX'? (like 'sex' with a lisp).

TEE-AICH-EX when talking about the movie and THEX when talking about the character in the movie.

CodySolo said:

So the only hope for a fully HD version of the original pole and reflection shots is to find a copy of that pre-Lowry alterations HD broadcast?   

Yes. I've been hunting it down like a dog. It was released by the group "Absinth" sometime in 2005 and is either 14.36GB or 14.38GB.

ray_afraid said:

Revisited does that, doesn't it?

Yes, but doesn't it use the post-81 modified crawl?

I'd like to see a tweaked (properly timed) '81 crawl.

Does anyone know where I can find these other HDTV rips? I'm desperately searching for the sans alterations 1080i ABC TV broadcast version released by the Absinth release group back in 2005.

I'm desparately searching for this rip. Can someone please help me out?

Danfun128 said:

You bumped a two month old thread just to make a lame pun?

Yes, I did. It's most definitely not an availability notice.

Man... the ratio of mass:volume in this case is orders of magnitude greater than 1. Please excuse my bitchiness.

Man, my spleen has been killing me lately! I need to take some medicine or something...

msycamore said:

Which means these alterations so far...

* Pan American Clipper Matte Painting: DVD / BBC HD / WOWOW / Canal + HD

* Flight to Nepal: DVD (??? BBC HD / Canal + HD ???)

* Cliff Matte: BBC HD

* Lamppost Matte: BD

(For now) assuming color, reframing, burned-in subtitles, and audio changes are not important, then does that mean that the only altered shot in the WOWOW is the clipper one?