I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but my coworker just told me that he might have a TESB bootleg.
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the original Spanish rental VHS (from Spain)? There's no "Episode IV" in the crawl on that tape, right?
msycamore said:
Yes, I did my own set of subs in AviSynth based on the theatrical ones. If you're interested in the placement and timings you can check out this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Greedo-Jabba-subtitles-theatrical-placement-and-fonts/topic/11463/
Thanks g-force. Compared to my original DVD it looks quite good.
Thanks -- I'll check it out.
g-force said:
AntcuFaalb said:
You_Too said:
You mean like matching the colors of the 97 SE with an older version?
Like you say, no home video release seems to match the original nicely, but from the versions I've seen, I think msycamore's SWE technidisc looks pretty good with it's colors.
The problem with the Technidisc SWE is that the colors are inconsistent due to a post-processing issue (msycamore's working on correcting this ATM).
Is this 1982 Video Rental Library VHS close to the original? I find the 1982 LD to be too bright.You might want to check with msycamore, but it sounded to me like the colors/brightness/contrast issues were on the original, and may have been compounded by his settings, but not DUE to his post-processing.
BTW, AntcuFaalb, looking forward to seeing the final results of the various projects you are working on! Keep up the good work.
-G
See my reply to msycamore. I need to seriously improve my reading comprehension.
Anyway, thanks for the encouragement! I'm going to do my best to bring each project to a completed state.
msycamore said:
g-force said:
it sounded to me like the colors/brightness/contrast issues were on the original, and may have been compounded by his settings, but not DUE to his post-processing.
Yes, you are correct about that.
I'm sorry, as I didn't mean to imply that you did anything wrong. I misunderstood the reason(s) for the issues(s) involved. I should have read your thread more carefully...
Moth3r said:
AntcuFaalb said:
OK, the Panasonic DMR-ES10 is on its way! This thing is supposedly a monster at correcting jitter.
I have one of these. Take care, the filtering on the composite input tends to destroy high-frequency detail. Not sure if this will even be an issue with VHS, however.
Examples from laserdisc, composite: http://i.imgur.com/kNNbk.png
s-video: http://i.imgur.com/NP36Z.png
Thanks for the information! Fortunately, I plan to use s-video for the Panasonic DMR-ES10's pass-through mode.
Edit: In fact, everything in my setup uses s-video.
Edit 2: I may be able to use the Panasonic DMR-ES10 to circumvent any AGC pumping issues that arise with the Hauppauge 610 USB-Live 2. In fact, burning directly to DVD may be preferable according to one of the posts in the thread you linked to in your later post:
The primary corrections the ES10 excels with (and other devices seem unable to cope with) generally apply only to multi-generational dub tapes or certain types of weirdly-recorded camcorder tapes. These can have two hard-to-fix issues: frame jitter, and/or severe bending or "flag waving" of vertical objects near the top third of the frame. The ES10 will correct the worst of these tapes to an amazing degree unmatched by even megabuck TBC hardware, but again the correction comes at a cost in overall PQ: your original tape gets converted by the ES10 not-so-great encoder, then goes thru another encoding process by your final recorder system. Multi-generation digital encoding is about as desirable as multi-gen analog dubbing: not at all. If you're fortunate enough to find an ES10 with a still-functioning burner, you could record direct to that and skip the second encoding from a pass-through setup. But you'll still end up with a so-so ES10 result, and the DVDs it produced were known to have some formatting issues with audio and frame sizing (obscure issues, but they do bother some users). Its best used as a pass-through to a more modern recorder.
msycamore said:
They are placed in the bottom black border.
Did you burn them in?
Are Greedo's subtitles burned-in on the LD?
You_Too said:
You mean like matching the colors of the 97 SE with an older version?
Like you say, no home video release seems to match the original nicely, but from the versions I've seen, I think msycamore's SWE technidisc looks pretty good with it's colors.
The problem with the Technidisc SWE is that the colors are inconsistent due to a post-processing issue (msycamore's working on correcting this ATM).
Is this 1982 Video Rental Library VHS close to the original? I find the 1982 LD to be too bright.
Can someone please upload this to alt.bin.starwars?
I know everything is somewhat off, but what’s the most accurate pre-97 ANH home video release to use for color matching?
I’d like to take my ColourLike experiments a little further tonight.
Does anyone want anything PS78-related while I'm waiting to receive the Panasonic DMR-ES10 and Hauppauge 610 USB-Live 2?
I have:
I can take:
PM me for hyperlinks. Post in this thread for other requests.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
You're discovering, as I discovered, that although there are lots of people here capable of doing this kind of stuff, it is even more fun doing it yourself.
Agreed :-)
Brooks said:
yeah I'd like to see a pic or video of this setup when you're done with it, it sounds pretty awesome!
Here's my setup without my new DMR-ES10. That'll be arriving in the coming days.
Everyone: thank you for the kind words and encouragement! Honestly, it means a lot to me.
The PS78 VHS survived for the past 34-35 years, so I feel it's my duty to preserve it and, fortunately, I have the means to purchase the equipment necessary for the best possible capture.
Thankfully, my wife is willing to put up with my temporary insanity. You'd expect her to after staying with me for eight years, but I can get really hyper-focused for extended periods of time (months; maybe years), so it must be like living with a maniac. For this and much more, I love and appreciate her with all of my heart.
russs15 said:
I would be amazed if any Star Wars VHS was ever released without copy protection.
It has been a long time since I recorded to a DVD recorder my PAL VHS collection but I had to do a Macrovision hack to get them to record.
I am however willing to be proved incorrect..........
The first film released with Macrovision protection was The Cotton Club in 1984. Any SW VHS released prior to 1984 should be free of it!
OK, the Panasonic DMR-ES10 is on its way! This thing is supposedly a monster at correcting jitter.
frank678 said:
Can any one fill me in on what AGC pumping is?
Sorry! AGC pumping is the flicker seen on the first PS78 capture. In this case, it's not really pumping, but semi-random luma variations; that is, some scenes become too dark or too bright for no reason at all.
How's this project going? Any update(s)?
The 1992 P/S Fullscreen set (again, with 2/3 sealed) is on its way! This is the same as the 1990 P/S Fullscreen set, save any packaging differences.
red5-626 said:
Wow I have not seen Star wars with that washed out Wight look in a long time.looks kind of like an old Tom Baker doctor who.
by the way
Any one know what saw the last Star Wars P&S
VHS that did not have copy protection on it.
You haven't seen PS78, have you? :-D
I took a backup-capture with my current setup (AG1980 -> DPS290 -> HD750) and it looks better, but still exhibits minor AGC pumping and horizontal jitters.
I've ordered a Hauppauge 610 USB-Live 2 Analog Video Digitizer to see if another capture card will solve the AGC pumping issue.
I'm working on obtaining a Panasonic DMR-ES10 or DMR-ES15 to correct the horizontal jitters (via its line TBC in passthrough-mode).
The Leitch DPS-290 works great. I'll be doing a test capture tomorrow.
TServo2049 said:
Wow, I'm getting X0 Project flashbacks reading this. Can't wait to see the results.
Sorry! The results are pleasing -- better than the LD -- but not DVD quality.
I can post my AviSynth script and ImageJ macro if anyone wants to try this at home. Please let me know if you're interested.
msycamore: How's it going? Any update(s)?
