AntcuFaalb

Harmy, my wife and I watched this earlier. All we have to say is: Great Job! Bravo!!!

OK, raw capture #5 has been uploaded. It's missing 1 part from {part036, part356, and part361}, but I was able to repair with par2. This was probably caused by a transmission problem of some sort (I hear it's common with Usenet), but I'll still re-upload the aforementioned parts ASAP.

Davnes007 said:

And, I still have my VCR.

Excellent -- me, too.

VCRs are, in some cases, magnificent pieces of engineering.

Davnes007 said:

And I have a sealed copy of the fullscreen version. :)

So do I ;-p

I now own a brand new copy of the 1995 THX Widescreen set.

The raw capture #5 upload to a.b.starwars has 2.5 hours to go. I should be able to upload raw capture #4 tonight as well.

frank678 said:

I've been out of the loop for a couple of weeks (and re-reading the last two pages I'm still pretty much out of the loop because of the the technical depth) but comparing the result you have arrived at via merge in post 302 with your very first result i had stored on disc = it was like night and day, the merge result is SO much sweeter on the eye than the first that I no longer feel the need to treasure that first capture because of whats coming up! Well done for going forward with this and seeing thru what could be acheived with it. I no longer believe it was luck the tape ended up in your hands - IT WAS DESTINY!! (apologies for such a dramatic statement!!) 

Thank you!!!

I love dramatic statements, so it's fine by me :-)

negative1 said:

ww12345 said:

That might be a fair compromise.

I'm CONUS, too, so the shipping for me would not be a big deal - maybe $50-60 tops to ship the hard drives. However, for people who were interested, like Harmy, it could get really expensive really quickly. Not only would they have to fork out the money for the terabyte harddrives, but they would incur huge shipping costs. I just shipped 10 DVDs to a South American fellow and he had to pay $58 in shipping - and that was the dirt cheapest way. I just don't want our non-CONUS members to get shafted because it will be a huge file...

Would one be able to do a 1080p OpenEXR? I read a bit about it yesterday, but am still a little confused about what it does. Does it make the files smaller, using a better compression ratio or something?

shipping is a pain, especially if its multiple drives.

 

openEXR supports 1080p, with non-lossy compression, and

a whole lot more. it would reduce the filesize, but not by the

amount that would make a huge difference for this issue.

 

later

-1

I think having the raw capture in 1080p would be an excellent compromise, -1. How big are we talking, in this case?

negative1 said:

remember, how did it go

with the X0/X9 raw releases.

i think only one or two people used

those to make anything out of it...

 

that's why i'm wondering in the end

if there will still be interest. it's going

to take a long time to copy on my end

also!

 

later

-1

You're right in that only a few people made good use of the X9 and X0 raw captures and I do know and acknowledge that it'd take a long time and effort to copy on your end.

I don't want to push the issue, but with that being said, I think there's value in having the raw capture(s) available. Neither you nor I know what the future will hold, but several things are certain:

1. Computers will continue to get faster and, in consequence, more capable of handling computationally-intense jobs that we can only dream of tackling today.
2. Software will continue to get more advanced.
3. The films will deteriorate.

Somebody in the next 5 years might come along with some advanced piece of software (e.g., PFClean), radically-fast hardware, and a burning desire to clean the living hell out of Star Wars. The raw captures would really help this hypothetical fortunate and resourceful person.

I think it's a matter of preservation... you busted your ass to digitize these films!

negative1 said:

Jan said:

Well, my largest upload was Harmy's Despecialized Edition Remastered MKV and I have quite a slow connection, so that's not really a reference. However, I've seen people uploading untouched BDs of a tv show season, which comes in at 200+ GB, with a speed of several MByte/sec.

So if you know somebody nearby with a fast fibre optical connection...

this is still several times that in size!

so unless someone wants to do this..

also, think of the end results.. i'm not trying

to dissuade people, but sharing it is going

to clutter up the newsgroup, and with the

end result of just a few people using it.

 

again, i mentioned pooling your resources,

sharing the costs, and shipping is probably

the only realistic way to go in the end.

 

later

-1

I agree that it'd be difficult, but I might have the resources to upload/share this. Let's speak (in private, of course) when you get closer to releasing.

negative1 said:

looking further down the road..

 

the openEXR format may be the answer

to what we're looking at for the raw 

images:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-release-formats-what-should-we-be-using-these-days/post/593146/#TopicPost593146

 

later

-1

Exciting! Access to the raw images would be a dream come true.

I'm almost ready to upload raw capture #5 to Usenet.

I need to free-up space on my HDD, so I'll be uploading raw captures #1-5 (in reverse order) to Usenet and storing #4 and #5 on an external HDD.

negative1 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Here's the motion-compensated dirt removal function I was using for the now-defunct SWOLT project.

Warning: It cleans excellently while preserving detail, but don't use it for any shots containing stars.

Note 1: You may want to set clmodeY to 18. See the RemoveGrain manual for explanations of what the different modes do and what the ups/downs of each one are.

Note 2: It only works on clips in planar color-spaces; e.g., YV12. Furthermore, it won't clean frames at scene-changes.

cool, thanks will check it out..

do you have any video examples of this

that you used?

 

later

-1

Have you tried this out yet, -1? How's it going?

digitalfreaknyc said:

Harmy, PHENOMENAL job!!! Man....wow....you're a prince :)

Btw...I know it had to be mentioned but the search function on this site is shit. What's going to be on the Blu-ray version?

You may want to try using Google to search this forum. Try using site:originaltrilogy.com XXX.

XXX would be, of course, your query.

Silly Question: Do you think GL would show the OUT to a dying boy/girl if it was his/her last wish?

frank678 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

An Aside

I often hear bootlegs regarded as the Holy Grail for Star Wars fans in the '80s. To what extent is this true?

I'm sure many of you were conscious during that time (I wasn't, as I was born in the late '80s), so do you have any stories to share? If so, please do!

 

Born in 1975 I was too young to get to see star wars at the cinema and so the version I knew was the pan and scan version that would have been shown on u.k. t.v. during the 80s. One of the many ways Star Wars fired up my imagination were the quick cutaway shots which would give you tons of alien stuff/information/detail in one second and then be gone (this is before I had the ability to pause films) . It suggested whole films within films, worlds within worlds. Then one day I visit my cousins house and he's got this star wars paperback with 16 colour inserts, with pictures wider than pan and scan, pictures not actually in the film i've seen, and pictures with deep rich inky colour unlike i've seen. I see there is a whole different version of star wars that i've never seen before a richer more detailed (later understood as the documentary style feel Lucas was going for) version that was there when it first came out in the cinema and which i've unfairly missed by being too young. Will I ever get to see this version? Is the only place you can see this version in america? These questions are still kind of waiting answers decades later.... (!)

i realize the film i imagined through these pictures stems from inaccurate colour printing technique and so exists in an alternate universe, but still the dream (reality!) of a richer original starting print is what the PS78 is for me...

 

Awesome story, Frank! Thanks for sharing!

I'm sorry if this has been asked already, but is the included mono mix the one from The Mono Mix Restoration Project?

Does anyone have the resources to print out the petition on a daily basis?

I think we should do what Andy Dufresne did in the The Shawshank Redemption to acquire more books for the library. That is, we should send the petition, daily, to 52 Park Way, San Anselmo, California (anonymously, of course).

I know it's a crazy idea, but then again, zombie84 referred to a 35mm preservation as a crazy idea...

TV's Frink said:

pat man said:

You_Too said:

@pat man: Yeah, watching on a calibrated screen is the best thing to do if you want to see how it really looks.

Unfortunately, most people who will watch this probably don't have calibrated TVs or projectors, but hopefully it will look good to them as well since the colors are pretty neutral overall.

  I have posted A calibration forum here 

  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-Calibrate-you-TV/topic/14577/page/1/

Side note: you post threads, not forums.  Forums are where you post threads.

The question is: do they have to be? Can't we all just "post a forum"? :-D

Hal 9000 said:

^Yeah, or alternate opening crawls, both for the '81 version and alternate languages. 

(Y'know, I wouldn't mind alternate angles for ESB and ROTJ that simply remove the "Episode X: Strike X of the Xers" marker in order to remove implication of the prequels from the OT.)

This is a great idea! It'd be a nice as a fan-edit.

An Aside

I often hear bootlegs regarded as the Holy Grail for Star Wars fans in the '80s. To what extent is this true?

I'm sure many of you were conscious during that time (I wasn't, as I was born in the late '80s), so do you have any stories to share? If so, please do!

IMHO this is how the OT is suppose to look (ignoring the limitations of the GOUT!) :D

I agree 100%.

The audio capture is done. I'm going to start working to sync it tomorrow evening (technically, this evening).

-1: Did you ever start the private blog for this project? Do you still intend to do that?

How's the GOUT-sync'ing going, schorman13?