AntcuFaalb

Does Dark/Sega JSC exhibit chroma smearing as well? No, right?

A proper name from Google:

MKIIIC Digiscan 4:2:2 - (1987) brought telecines into the standardized world of Digital Television.

(Punctuation modified.)

Moth3r said:

AntcuFaalb said:

We need to figure out if we can replicate it...

That bit's easy, just buy this:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Digital+Vision+DVNR+1000+Noise+Reducer

"[We used] a noise reduction and dirt concealment device made by Digital Vision, a company in Sweden. Their DVNR-1000 is a very powerful noise reducer for reducing film grain. Especially on the two earlier movies the film grain was very high."

 - from the 1993 Dave Schnuelle interview.

Wow, you rock! Where did you find that information?!

Edit: Click Here

Moth3r said:

AntcuFaalb said:

msycamore: Is the chroma shift consistent? That is, is it always displaced by the same number of pixels?

From the way it was described as a chroma smear rather than a chroma shift, I'd guess that the displacement depends on how fast the object is moving.

Ah, that makes sense!

Could this be caused by the comb filter not adapting (2D->3D and vice-versa) quickly enough?

Also, is it present in X9 TESB and ROTJ as well?

msycamore: Is the chroma shift consistent? That is, is it always displaced by the same number of pixels?

g-force said:

it's actually a combination of a temporal smoother and median filter (like clense). If I had to guess, from what I remember, it's probably:

median(current frame, average of about 12 previous frames, median(current, previous,next))

Median filters are non-linear, and cannot be undone.

-G

Yuck :-(

Simple frame-blending can be undone, but if what you say is true, then it's screwed.

Wolfman said:

 

Are there any extra tracks on any of the Broadsword CD,s ?

Yes, the 2005 Remastered CD has some bonus tracks.

Asaki said:

Are you trying to say the process can be undone?

My computer really doesn't like this forum, I can't get the post above to show up correctly or go away...

We need to figure out if we can replicate it before we can determine if it can (at least, partially) be undone.

My challenge was for someone to take a frame similar to the one I posted earlier (one without the frame-blending) and merge it somehow with the last frame of the previous shot in order to look at close as possible to the blended one.

TV's Frink said:

Make your own threat. :p

Don't you mean "Post a forum"? :-D

Mentasm said:

Am I missing the public link to the LD LPCM audio, or is it a PM sort of thing?

PM. Look up in the thread to find 'em :-)

5,824!

I'm selling my tickets for Ian Anderson's TAAB 1&2 Concert at Caesar's Palace in Atlantic City, NJ on 6 October 2012 at 9PM.

I've two of them for UPPER3, Row J, Seats 603-604.

I purchased them for 2x$75.00 and I'm selling them for 2x$49.98. They're on StubHub.

Excellent finds, Raphael!!!

You_Too: I agree. That's what I was trying to say in my previous post.

However, I was also trying to point out that it doesn't do anything sophisticated. It looks like a very simple algorithm was put into use.

Edit: Here's a challenge!

1. Look at the image of Leia in my previous post and find the corresponding frame in GOUT (I think it's 58995 in PAL GOUT). Also, note that it occurs at a shot/scene-change. Let's call this ``curr''.

2. Take the preceding frame (it contains a shot of Darth Vader on the left and the side of Leia's head on the right) and the successive frame. We'll call these ``prev'' and ``next'', respectively.

3. Jump 4-5 frames ahead (just enough for the blending to disappear). 58999 in PAL GOUT is probably a good candidate. It shouldn't be too different from the frame in #1. Let's call this ``temp''.

4. Using Overlay (or something similar) with ``prev'', and possibly ``next'', try to make ``temp'' look as much as possible like ``curr''.

Note: You probably only have to work in luma for this to work.

If anyone with some disposable cash is eager to help out...

Star Wars (used)

The Empire Strikes Back (used)

Return of the Jedi (new!)

Edit: I just noticed Raphael's post. It'd be preferable to go with the version of The Empire Strikes Back that he linked to, if possible.

zombie84 said:

That doesn't surprise me that Broadsword was popular in Germany, I think one of the reasons I like it so much is that the sound and the artwork are very heavy metal influenced. Of course, two years or so later, Jethro Tull won for "best metal album" at the American Grammy awards...what were they thinking?? But a very good album nonetheless. I swear, after that for about ten years there must have been metal fans who hated Jethro Tull just based on the fact that they were even included in that category, let alone took it from Metallica.

I think Metallica should have won, but do keep in mind that it was known as the Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental in 1989.

Interesting project! I'm looking forward to seeing the result(s)!

You may want to look into "Media Studio". It's what Loose Cannon uses for their Doctor Who reconstructions.

[redacted] (as promised)

So it looks like the DC's (and, therefore, the GOUT's) temporal noise reduction algorithm is a simple temporal frame blender. Do you see Darth Vader and Leia's bun from the previous frame too?

I agree with SpilkaBilka and bkev: Verbatim is the best!

negative1 said:

hmm.

 

running some tests on this..

made a dual layer DVD version,

but it has glitches in my samsung player,

i'm using memorex DVD+R.

i'll try some other brands.. any suggestions?

 

 

also i'm using NERO vision to master the

discs. i'll try another program to see if that

was the problem.

 

the single layer version of this and empire

didn't seem to have any problems..

 

later

-1

What kinds of glitches?

Also, how are you encoding to MPEG-2? I prefer HC Encoder myself.

Also, are you converting to the YV12 color-space prior to encoding in MPEG-2?

CatBus said:

We give the man a dedicated superhero thread and he doesn't want to seem vain ;)

I haven't seen such humility since... wait a sec...

HARMY IS ELVIS!

Masta Shake: So tell me, are you the fat Elvis or the skinny Elvis?

Meatwad: Gimme the candy!