AntcuFaalb

Join us! http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/16mm-Telecine-Projector-Project/post/612733/#TopicPost612733

I'm the other member, if anyone interested doesn't already know.

Our biggest challenge right now is figuring out a way to send a signal from the projector when a new frame is displayed.

My current idea is to use the magnet and sensor from a bicycle odometer (a.k.a., bicycle computer) by connecting it to something that revolves once for each frame.

Treadwell said:

If I may, the floor and hallway look dead, suffering from held grain, as if you created a single clean master frame of those areas to replace as much of each dirty frame as possible. The trick is to make several of those, using different source frames to make them, and use a different one each time you paint out a piece of dirt. That way the grain is different for every cleaned frame. I hope this came across constructively! :)

Maybe it just needs a touch of artificial grain? Otherwise, I still think it looks great.

ww12345 said:

Sounds like a plan - where should I start it?

Good question. How-To's and Technical Discussions seems best, but I don't think it'd get enough views there, so I'd say to start it in Other Preservations and Fan Projects.

Harmy said:

I'm not sure what exactly you mean. I always said I'd leave the wipes, because they don't really change anything and recreating them faithfully would require an original source, which at this point would mean the GOUT and from what I can tell, there isn't really any significant drop in quality during wipes on the IB print, except maybe a little more dirt, which would get cleaned up in a digital restoration anyway.

You answered my question. :-) Thanks!

ww12345 said:

The problem wouldn't really be in cost, but in finding a lab that would do it. MVerta knows of one, but last I checked it was close to $3-4000 to do a transfer. Granted, that would be for a first class transfer, but it is still nothing to sneeze at. Otherwise, a pool of money could go to buying one of the HD units like Puggo has - those run about $5000, IIRC.

I'll definitely keep people posted on the projector process. I wonder if I should start a new thread?

Definitely start a new thread, specifically for the homemade telecine machine.

It would help us by getting suggestions from other people and our design might help others in the future; if we ever get it working, that is.

TV's Frink said:

Wait a moment...I just realized Darth Cold is on that list.

Who, you ask?

This dude!

LOL!

Harmy, I still don't know your goals 100%, so please bear with me.

Did you always plan to leave in the new wipes done by Pacific Titles? If not, then was something holding you back from recreating the old wipes; e.g., picture quality?

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Which deck(s) do you have access to?  There is considerable variation in quality between the various decks.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Audio-and-or-video-captures-offered-anyone-interested/post/506098/#TopicPost506098

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ presents the [OUT ruLes] project

Original Unaltered Trilogy restored using Laserdisc editions

 

Episode IV - Star Wars: A New Hope

 

Project mission: restore the Original Unaltered Trilogy using audio and video from various Laserdisc editions.

Video sources: analog video captured directly from Laserdiscs; other analog sources are admitted (VHS, CED, VHD, Beta etc.) only if the material is not present on the Laserdisc format.

Audio sources: analog audio and uncompressed PCM captured directly from Laserdiscs; other analog sources are admitted (like vynil) only if the material is not present on the Laserdisc format.

Subtitles sources: to be decided; Project Threepio seems the logical way.

Project prohibition: use DVD, BD, HDTV or other audio or video from any digital sources.

(other info will follow on the next posts)

Do you need any help?

Also, are you going to be releasing the captures unfiltered? (I'm not asking if they're going to be the raw captures. I'm just asking if you plan to do anything to them besides MPEG-2 encoding.)

Frink. WTF.

My wife is pissed now because I keep going around the house shouting "TOO MANY DARTHS ON THE FORUM!" in the Kermit the Frog voice.

You_Too said:

Ok, now the final shot has been fixed for the first film, and I decided to upload a sample so you could all see the difference!

It's that horribly dirty second wide shot of Luke in the Falcon, before and after http://www.sendspace.com/file/prokuf

Wow, excellent job! It looks great!!!

Moth3r: Do you still have your raw captures for this set lying around?

You_Too said:

Thanks a lot guys!

Small update: Even if we will focus on fixing color errors, we've decided to include at least some fixes for some of the worst frames in SW. Like the end of the Tantive scene where Vader walks past the camera and the bottom of the screen flashes yellow before it cuts to the star destroyer in space.

That's the end of IP reel #1!

TV's Frink said:

msycamore said:

especially with my broken english.

You write better than half of the native English speakers here.

I agree with Frink, msycamore.

Davnes007 said:

He likes to get paid in nickels & dimes....

 

 

....just like he's been nickel & diming us for decades.

Star Wars Episode XIII: Scrooge McLucas and the Hill of Coins

I wonder what they'll do for the 24p BD release.

Simple solution: Throw out half of the frames!

msycamore said:

BmB said:

But that scene in ESB is just a simplistic, if you kill Vader then you become Vader.

If that is what you think that little scene was about I suggest you rewatch it.

 

I always thought it was about Luke discovering that Vader is his father.

I like BmB's interpretation.

TV's Frink said:

I don't think he has the tallent to pull it off.

OK, I can accept that.

Here's another question: Why doesn't he reply to any of his threads?!

bkev said:

Well at least they left one unlocked.

True, but the question is: Is he a sock?

doubleofive said:

 

AntcuFaalb said:

005: Certain explosions/flashes during reel #1 of ANH arrive one frame early (or late) in the 97SE.

I discovered these by running a scene-change-detection algorithm on reel #1 of GOUT and 97SE (TB) and diff'ing the results.

Are these one-frame differences something you're interested in recording?

I've got some frame diffences already, but I'm not sure at this point. It's still a sign of a change, but we could also say "all this stuff was redone"...

 

That would probably work best. Something like: "Here's a list of minor one-frame differences...".

Anyway, do you have any idea why these changes are present? Also, are they changes? Errors? Recompositing?

I don't think any frames were dropped (or added) because 97SE ANH's reel #1 has the same number of frames as GOUT ANH's reel #1.

005: Certain explosions/flashes during reel #1 of ANH arrive one frame early (or late) in the 97SE.

I discovered these by running a scene-change-detection algorithm on reel #1 of GOUT and 97SE (TB) and diff'ing the results.

Are these one-frame differences something you're interested in recording?

Jetrell Fo said:

AntcuFaalb said:

TB is sorely lacking in seeders on MySpleen. I'm sure any help in that respect would be greatly appreciated.

If I had the TB I'd help you out but I do not.  I wasn't aware that anyone was even uploading it.....shows you how much attention I've paid to the spleen lately.

;)

Don't worry about it! Actually, msycamore's (video-only) upload is helping. :-)

TB is sorely lacking in seeders on MySpleen. I'm sure any help in that respect would be greatly appreciated.

TV's Frink said:

Needs more pat.

Agreed. Where did he go?!