AntcuFaalb

goluboisenzapax said:

I hope this is not a consideration already brought up, but has anyone seen the main feature of the THX DTS disc? It includes clips from the Star Wars trilogy, Indiana Jones trilogy, and Willow, and I am fairly certain the clips from Star Wars are pre-1997 Special Edition (no nuclear ring from Death Star explosion). Also, since it is DVD, the clips are of very good quality, and I'd imagine this is how the Star Wars trilogy would have looked on DVD before the Special Edition releases. Maybe I am late to the game here, but would it be of any use for further preservation consideration?

I found the disc on the 'spleen recently.

It sounds to me like it's a DVD version of the "THX WOW!" laserdisc.

It might be useful for some of the GOUT-based projects around here. I'll download it tonight.

dvdmike said:

It is sharpened a little but I personally think it resolves more detail, it is the same master set LaserPacific did that the Blu's of Doom and Crusade came from

What's the bitrate? Where can I get it from? Is it on Usenet?

doubleofive said:

No, I literally had no idea that it used to be called that.

OK! :-D

FWIW, 20th Century Pictures did my favorite version of Les Miserables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables_%281935_film%29

20th Century Pictures was only around for a few years prior to the merger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th_Century_Pictures_films

dvdmike said:

I saw it 35mm not too long ago and it was 100% green/blue

The orange flags really highlight this issue

Interesting.

Does the HDTV transfer look much better?

dvdmike said:

Raiders already has the Wowow HDTV versions so we have the original timing 

There's some debate over whether or not RotLA has the original colortiming in its BD release.

I think it does, but I can understand why people would disagree with me.

I know they're not the best source, but I've seen enough original RotLA 35mm cells to think that the BD is more accurate than previous home video releases.

Plus, wouldn't the post-house have chosen teal-and-orange over yellow? :-P

doubleofive said:

I did not know that. I thought I had picked a random name.

Sarcasm? I can never tell on the WWW...

dvdmike said:

I think it is as good as it is going to get and miles better than the studio release 

Agreed.

valinkrai said:

I am 20. Really though, I wish George never changed anything, because as neat as some changes are (I'm very fond of the new Jedi ending music), others are awful, and none are worth the issues among fans that arose from the changes. 

I doubt you care, but you have earned -- at least -- my respect with this statement.

doubleofive said:

 

DuracellEnergizer said:

20th Century Fox should have been renamed 21st Century Fox.

As a kid I thought the name was in reference to the future, once I realized that I was already in the 20th century, I thought "they're going to look really stupid in a few years"

Even renaming to Fox Films or something.

 

20th Century Fox has that name because of the merger of Fox Films and 20th Century Pictures, Inc. in 1935.

Reverting to Fox Films might be OK today, however...

Hearing the word "sith" reminds me of everything that has been done to ruin Star Wars over the years.

I'm truly sick of this Jedi vs. X crap. It's terrible storytelling designed to appeal to babies.

Jedi, Sith/Dark Jedi, lightsabers, and "The Force" were all things used to move the plot along in the OT. That's right: they were used to move the plot along and they weren't the focus of the plot.

I guess I'm trying to say that seeing Jabba the fucking Hutt in ROTJ was a hell of a lot more interesting than seeing Yoda flipping around with a lightsaber and tossing junk with "The Force" in AOTC.

It's good to have you back, none.

How're things?

doubleofive said:

DAD!

Yes?

analog said:

Call me old fashioned, but models really do make for a much more real experience than just about any CGI, even of the latest/greatest variety.

Yes, I agree. Just watch Total Recall (1990) for what is possibly the best example of model work for film, ever.

digitalfreaknyc said:

You really should do 1080p. 720 is almost archaic in this day and age.

Agreed.

chyron8472 said:

Okay then. On-topic it is.

So long as I don't get yelled at by Harmy again. That's no fun.

When did Harmy yell at you? Which post #?

chyron8472 wins! Flawless victory.

Guspaz said:

Am I the only one around here who enjoys having both the theatrical release and the special edition releases to watch? My problem with the special editions was not the changes that were made, but that the theatrical versions were not given equal effort for release on new mediums (DVD, BluRay).

My problem with the SE is that it was half-assed.

Remove matte outlines in this shot. OK!

Forget about the matte outlines in the 30 subsequent shots. Nobody will notice 'em! OK!

dvdmike said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Forget blu-ray.com. That website is a joke.

Awesome project, guys. Keep up the good work!

We need this in stone somewhere

:-)

Well, don't get me wrong! I use it all the time to see if a particular Blu-ray transfer is good or not, especially when I'm out at a store like Best Buy.

The forum, however, is an entirely different story. It seems as though many of its members are willing to trade almost anything for higher bitrates and more "pop".

DNR? Edge enhancement? Revisionist colortiming? Suck on this.

The studios won't swallow my soul. Shop smart. Shop S-mart.

Forget blu-ray.com. That website is a joke.

Awesome project, guys. Keep up the good work!

Chewtobacca said:

Harmy's right.  Let's drop it.  I hope that he enjoys the Blu-rays as much as we enjoy the Despecialized version and that he realizes that he is wasting his time.

EDIT: Who do you think it is, Frink?  I never thought that he might be a sock.

It's FatherSkywalker, a.k.a., Sam.

dark_jedi said:

Please share your thoughts on our teaser color screens on the previous page, thanks.

They look absolutely fantastic!

Honestly, I've seen Terminator so many times and these colors look really spot-on.

How do you maintain quality with re-encoding? Do you do it at a slightly higher bitrate?

Doctor M said:

Anyone with a better method?

Not better, but different...

c = AVISource("SotS.avi") # Assumes c is 1920x1080 already.

c.Subtract(c.ResampleHQ(1280, 720).ResampleHQ(1920, 1080))

Basically: Downscale to 720p, upscale back to 1080p, and then subtract from the original 1080p clip. This should show what's lost rather well.

Damn. I just realized how sick of the lightsaber I am.

SilverWook said:

Star Wars has permeated so deeply into our culture, that would a be a tad difficult. ;)

True, but I was referring (vaguely) to the Star Wars we've had since ~1999. I think there's value in Disney trying to distance itself from that Star Wars.

It's hard to go back to basics when your audience comes in expecting a colorful lightsaber show with some mindless Jedi vs. X story.

Is there somewhere I can download "At the Movies", at least?

I'd prefer to buy DVDs, but that option doesn't seem to be available.